The Juggernaut...show some respect! (Redux)

Started by Knowsbleed3339 pages

Juggernaut has displayed super speed as far back as Amazing Adventures #16 where he out-manuevered Beast.

Originally posted by ankur29
Thunderbolts#153:

Huggernaut (and later others)Vs King hyperion

all cred to guy for scanning

It is necessary to specify, that juggernaut is decreased !!!

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Juggernaut has displayed super speed as far back as Amazing Adventures #16 where he out-manuevered Beast.
You have scans?

Amazing Adventures #16
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/-page11-.jpg

It's nothing terribly incredible. Interesting to note Beast beat him by removing his helmet rendering him powerless

Don't think I read that issue.

Well it's obvious now that they've taken his strength and durability down a fair bit, because Classic Cain could've tangled with Hyperion all day long and not get a broken leg or even a bloody lip.

What I will say though is that his healing is pretty amazing with all the levels dropped so far. By the end of the issue which could only be a few minutes, his face which was pretty messed up and his shattered kneecap seemed to be fine.

Maybe some good news?

LINK

"Cain Marko will play a central role in the story as he will also become on the "Worth" of the event's storyline. "Juggernaut is the avatar of a guy, and now he's essentially an avatar twice," he said. "I wanted to build the idea of this unstoppable thing that's scary...it's like a disaster movie situation. It's a tidal wave It's an earthquake...we go to the incredibly macro scale stuff of the unstoppable Juggernaut bearing down on everyone." The writer compared the character to a moving volcano. "Villains tend to not be as scary as they should be, and I want to make him really, really scary. He's a meaty fella.""

Also, this might make Colossus-Big C more exited:

And as shown in the recent teaser image, Colossus may be coming across the power of Cyttorak as he takes the helm of Juggernaut at some point through 2011. "Colossus is almost the guy who's happy to sacrifice himself...he's the white knight personified," he said, adding that the character's journey will build off his first arc where the team traveled to the Breakworld to reunite with Kitty Pryde.

Oh no.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Oh no.

What do you mean? This could be Juggernaut becoming a villain again and getting his power back. Again.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
What do you mean? This could be Juggernaut becoming a villain again and getting his power back. Again.
I got the idead that he's going to be a Avatar of somebody else and Colossus takes his place.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I got the idead that he's going to be a Avatar of somebody else and Colossus takes his place.

Hmmm, I see. Well there is another teaser image of Steve Rogers putting on Nova's helmet in the same sense that Piotr is putting on Juggernaut's helmet. Although, I kind of see that teaser image as symbolism, but if Colossus does somehow get the power, I think it will be temporary. But who knows, maybe it'll be a change in the status quo. I'd rather see Cain just get his power back.

That first quote makes me very excited. Who's quote is that?

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
That first quote makes me very excited. Who's quote is that?

Kieron Gillen. Sorry about that, I thought I coded it correctly in that post.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=31132

Re: Maybe some good news?

Originally posted by KingD19
Well it's obvious now that they've taken his strength and durability down a fair bit, because Classic Cain could've tangled with Hyperion all day long and not get a broken leg or even a bloody lip.

What I will say though is that his healing is pretty amazing with all the levels dropped so far. By the end of the issue which could only be a few minutes, his face which was pretty messed up and his shattered kneecap seemed to be fine.

It was actually still quite impressive. Hyp was not able to handle Juggs in a brawl so he had to fight more dirty. Hyp is genuine class 100, its is also quite impressive that Hyp hurt his hand punching Juggs.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
LINK

Also, this might make Colossus-Big C more exited:

This is not good news and I don't want to see Juggs as a bad guy.

Juggs is a bad guy.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Juggs is a bad guy.

Not in Thunderbolts he ain't.

Originally posted by Deadline
Not in Thunderbolts he ain't.

He's still pretty much a bad guy, he's just smart about it. Plus he's come to care for his teammates...but he always does that.

If he wasn't a bad guy, he wouldn't have let Crossbones feed that guy a spoon.

If he wasn't a bad guy, he wouldn't have let Hyperion get killed(I'm assuming by Man-Thing) etc...

He's still bad, just working within his situation.

Originally posted by KingD19
He's still pretty much a bad guy, he's just smart about it. Plus he's come to care for his teammates...but he always does that.

If he wasn't a bad guy, he wouldn't have let Crossbones feed that guy a spoon.

If he wasn't a bad guy, he wouldn't have let Hyperion get killed(I'm assuming by Man-Thing) etc...

He's still bad, just working within his situation.

He's not that bad. He has a sense of honour and looks out for his people. Its not like hes trying to conquer the world or kill random innocents. He shouldn't have done that to Hyp but the guy only broke his leg and tried to drown his teamates. The guys who got done by the spoon was a hardened criminal and to an extent was asking for it. I don't think Hyp or that other guy were killed anyway. It was wrong but in the grand scheme of things it ain't shit at all.

Juggernaut is bad and he needs to stay bad.

edit: Can someone, anyone post Juggernauts more impressive showings in Thunderbolts? I haven't had the opportunity to go through them all yet.

Juggs should be feared just like when WWH cameback afterall who wants to fight a guy who is just as strong as Hulk but can't be hurt......