I anticipated that Dianna would get the blunt end - Just a reminder that she gets access to all her equipment, which seems pretty uber. So shes does bring some sort of magic to the team. Her lasso is also pretty damn useful that allows her to beat waaay more powerful opponents that she shouldn't be able to.
Anyway...
MVP
Batman/Martian Manhunter
Not a lot of love for the Manhunter. Pretty much the physical rival (or close to) to Superman and then some. His telepathy is also crucial in battle forming a network for communication. And the other good stuff you all know about etc.
LVP
Superman. In terms of abilities, he is kinda made redundant with the Manhunter on the team. Being DC's poster boy, he is obviously always going to be made to be seen as the team's main man.
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Etrigan - Very solid in his physical stats, plus he brings some real magik power and knowledge to the team.
Originally posted by -Pr-
😐you can't be serious.
I am absolutely. He's probably the most powerful overall on the team, granted. But it's a team that's stacked with power. And with each adding something that Superman definitely can't, I don't see his extra power as being valuable. So is he useful to this team? Sure. But the most valuable? Not even close.
Please keep in mind, I'm not seeing these characters operating in a vacuum. I'm including the Corps, for example, as part of GL's resources. Because, let's be honest, if the situation demands it, he has a ready and willing army at his disposal. And let's also assume that we don't have massive PIS jobbing so that Supes can look awesome. Combined, the team is more powerful than Kal alone by a lot. If they can't tackle a challenge, chances are he can't either.
I'm vaguely unfamiliar with Diana, so I could see her challenging for LVP. But that's about it. Kal is 2nd to last in usefulness, at best, on this team. And clearly I'm not the only one who thinks this.
Originally posted by Digi
I am absolutely. He's probably the most powerful overall on the team, granted. But it's a team that's stacked with power. And with each adding something that Superman definitely can't, I don't see his extra power as being valuable. So is he useful to this team? Sure. But the most valuable? Not even close.Please keep in mind, I'm not seeing these characters operating in a vacuum. I'm including the Corps, for example, as part of GL's resources. Because, let's be honest, if the situation demands it, he has a ready and willing army at his disposal. And let's also assume that we don't have massive PIS jobbing so that Supes can look awesome. Combined, the team is more powerful than Kal alone by a lot. If they can't tackle a challenge, chances are he can't either.
I'm vaguely unfamiliar with Diana, so I could see her challenging for LVP. But that's about it. Kal is 2nd to last in usefulness, at best, on this team. And clearly I'm not the only one who thinks this.
Get off my forum.
Originally posted by Digi
Ah, damnit. I forgot Krypto as part of Superman's resources. Well, the dog wouldn't be the LVP. But I'd probably replace Kal with Krypto if possible.fdog
and it gets worse.
honest question: how many superman comics in the last decade have you read? and i mean his regular series, not jla, etc.
Originally posted by Mindset
Ban each other.
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MVP: The God damned Batman.
Do I even need to say why?
LVP: Wonder Woman.
If the argument stands that Supes should be LVP because he doesn't bring anything to the table that the others don't, other than raw power, I don't see how Wonder Woman, who is inferior to Superman in almost every way, should somehow not be the LVP.
As the addition...
Originally posted by Placidity
Etrigan - Very solid in his physical stats, plus he brings some real magik power and knowledge to the team.
Or the Engineer. She gives the team an even greater technological edge. And I'd imagine she would likely become even more advanced given what the JLA are already surrounded by.
Originally posted by -Pr-
and it gets worse.honest question: how many superman comics in the last decade have you read? and i mean his regular series, not jla, etc.
The answer would shake my credibility in this thread, sure. But the better question is, why haven't I been countered yet?
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Btw, the Krypto stuff is a joke. But I do think Kal is close to being LVP here, despite being the most powerful overall. He just doesn't fill a role that isn't already covered at least once. I'd be fine with being proven wrong, but I haven't seen it yet.