Originally posted by geshien
Rhino has also taken shots to the face from the Hulk and was still standing. Highly vulnerable indeed. 😬Rhino isn't so stupid that backed by that kind of power he would lose to anyone who is that physically inferior with nothing to aid them in bringing him down.
The thread starter obviously thought it was clever to make this thread for obvious reasons.
Those who have common sense will tell you that in no way should Batman win, but because of reputations, this debate has made it passed 2 pages.
It's like the Chuck Norris meme; It's fashionable and fun so people are all in agreement that Chuck Norris is God, to the point where folks are pretty faithful to keeping the joke alive. Batman isn't innocent of this psychology and neither is the Rhino, although they are done in the opposite manner of the other.
Batman has a legacy, which is attributed to many things. He's like McGuyver, with kung-fu, but in the end, he can only do so much. And with the resources he has for this fight, he's screwed. If the thread said anything about prep, this would be a very different discussion.
Rhino has a tradition in jobbing out because he fills the stereotypical role of a dumb muscle head. Rhino is not a complex character by any means, and so there isn't a whole lot invested in a character like that hence, why Rhino's a jobber.
That said, Batman winning is PIS/CIS.
Rhino wins 10/10
Hulk holds back subconsciously when he fights weaker beings. He is not a killer. That is how characters like Thing and others can hang with him. Hulk doesn't want to kill. Plus Hulk's strength is unpredictable. It could be 100 ton one time or 10000 tons another. Not entirely based off anger but randomness by the writer.
By the mere fact that Rhino has been koed and injured by lesser forces to the face proves that Batman can affect him with his bombs, gas, etc.
Originally posted by geshien
Rhino 10/10
CIS is always on, on every character always. You don't seem to understand what it means, but it's always implied that it factors in. Which means that Rhino is as intelligent as a sack of potatoes and that Batman is one of the smartest people alive. Now, even if Rhino happened to be really smart, he only has durability and strength going for him.
This doesn't help when you're fighting someone who's really nimble and really agile. Especially not when Rhino can't see through smoke, has very vulnerable eyes and has a very, very vulnerable mouth. Which he opens a lot. So how difficult is it for Batman to make Rhino swallow a pill, grenade or some sort of gas? Not very.
it's the same reason a tactic like that wouldn't be used in an argument against captain america. nobody would dare claim that batman would throw a pill down cap's throat, even if he came to the conclusion it would be after getting battered quite a bit as the two traded blows for some time. batman is pretty much only relegated to like 3 tools he might carry on him on a regular basis, and them doing the trick is somewhat dubious.
that's where rhino triumphs, bats would be too late to come to such a concision since rhino's stats are simply too great for a normal batman one on one fight to last for that long. imo
Originally posted by psycho gundam
it's the same reason a tactic like that wouldn't happen to captain america. nobody would dare claim that batman would throw a pill down cap's throat, even if he came to the conclusion it would be after getting battered quite a bit as the two traded blows for some time.that's where rhino triumphs, bats would be too late to come to such a concision since rhino's stats are simply too great for a normal batman one on one fight to last for that long. imo
Batman can't hop around Captain America 😐
should be a hundred meters give or take
meh
if you take into account the fight batman had with the leader of the mutants where batman had to coax the faster stronger mutant into a mud pit to beat him, batman's not looking too good against the rhino in singular combat against a guy of his weight class.
Originally posted by Digi
The answer: Heavens no. Also, strength grants a measure of speed due to the force behind movement and the ability to make rapid changes. And the speed with which to tag Spider-Man occasionally = the speed with which to crush the Batman pretty damn quickly.
So wait a sec Batman has used nerve strikes on WW but he cant use it on Rhino? Wasnt Captain America dancing around Rhino. I also think Kraven The Hunter used a nerve strike on Rhino as well.
it's the same reason a tactic like that wouldn't be used in an argument against captain america.nobody would dare claim that batman would throw a pill down cap's throat, even if he came to the conclusion it would be after getting battered quite a bit as the two traded blows for some time. batman is pretty much only relegated to like 3 tools he might carry on him on a regular basis, and them doing the trick is somewhat dubious.
Are you trying to compare Cap to Rhino in combat ability? Really?
BTW, Batman carries much more then just 3 gadgets in his belt its more like dozens of gadgets as Bruce likes to come ready for anything.
that's where rhino triumphs, bats would be too late to come to such a concision since rhino's stats are simply too great for a normal batman one on one fight to last for that long. imo
Except for the fact that Bruce has quickly taken down Lashina with KO gas to the mouth before who also happens to be a super strong brick similar to Rhino.
if you take into account the fight batman had with the leader of the mutants where batman had to coax the faster stronger mutant into a mud pit to beat him, batman's not looking too good against the rhino in singular combat against a guy of his weight class.
Why are you using an elseworlds story as evidence? Especially when this story focused around the time when Bruce was way out of his prime.