dark phoenix v galactus

Started by DarthZoom17 pages

Utrigita, it's not about flamming Galactus, your taking it too personally. You obviously like the character, but the facts are that he does drain quickly when faced with other high end cosmics and Phoenix has brought him to his knees before.

"ore the one where he, from my point of view, showed that he could and had the authority to erase the Phoenix from the Universe?"

When was this? Issue name and number please, because I have never heard of this.

Originally posted by DarthZoom
Utrigita, it's not about flamming Galactus, your taking it too personally. You obviously like the character, but the facts are that he does drain quickly when faced with other high end cosmics and Phoenix has brought him to his knees before.

"ore the one where he, from my point of view, showed that he could and had the authority to erase the Phoenix from the Universe?"

When was this? Issue name and number please, because I have never heard of this.

I dislike when a person uses roughly 70% of his post to deliver a imput I can't see the relevance off in the given context (Galactus powerlevel after devouring a planet). The only time Phoenix and Galactus have fought was at a planet Galactus was intending on devouring. Also what High End Cosmic are you refering too? Galactus has never faced the Beyonders, The Living Tribunal, Mad Jim Jaspers, Jamie Braddock, Havok with the Nexus, Captain Britain with the sword of Excalibur, HoM Wanda, and so on. These are imo what can be refered to as High End Cosmic. Phoenix isn't imo in that group.

Excalibur #25

I know Xplosive, ID, Starlock, LordKaos, GS and more has a different angle hence I added in my opinion.

Originally posted by Utrigita
In what instance? the one where he was Hungry (mentioned on panel for your information) ore the one where he

That is why I said hungry or not, Galactus knows who he is and still he thought PF is even more dangerous than himself. At least, it seemed that way in my opinion.

from my point of view, showed that he could and had the authority to erase the Phoenix from the Universe?[/B]

I could also kill stronger human than me, if they would willingly let me do it.

I have no doubt PF could also kill Galactus.

Originally posted by Xplosive
That is why I said hungry or not, Galactus knows who he is and still he thought PF is even more dangerous than himself.

As mentioned above if it's caused by the same chain of event as caused by the little green midget, then all respect to that, but then her line of thought is more dangerous then her power itself.

Originally posted by Xplosive
I could also kill many stronger humans than me, if they would willingly let me do it.

I could kill many stronger Humans regardless whether ore not they would let me do it if I knew martial arts and they don't. Strength isn't always the deciding factor.

Originally posted by Xplosive
I have no doubt PF could also kill Galactus.

Galactus showed imo that he could kill the Phoenix, and the Phoenix showed that she could kill a weakened Galactus. I stand by my previous statement, Galactus was going to imo erase Phoenix regardless if it was going to be with his Machine (with is just a extension of his power but not capable of producing a affect on the same scale as him) ore his own Personal power.

Originally posted by Utrigita
I dislike when a person uses roughly 70% of his post to deliver a imput I can't see the relevance off in the given context (Galactus powerlevel after devouring a planet). The only time Phoenix and Galactus have fought was at a planet Galactus was intending on devouring.

Well thats not the only time, but it is the most current and she did bring him to his knees. He was beaten, he simply drove her off by calling her a hypocrite based on what she did to the D'Bari system.

Phoenix isn't imo in that group.

Just curious, if you were to list Phoenix's power set, what would you put down?

Originally posted by Utrigita
I could kill many stronger Humans regardless whether ore not they would let me do it if I knew martial arts and they don't. Strength isn't always the deciding factor.

I hope you know what I wanted to point out with that quote.

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t110/phideltusc/Galactus.jpg

I just thought everyone would like this LOL

Originally posted by DarthZoom
Well thats not the only time, but it is the most current and she did bring him to his knees. He was beaten, he simply drove her off by calling her a hypocrite based on what she did to the D'Bari system.

What other time did the Phoenix engage Galactus in a battle? I'm curious to know really, and yes I know.

Originally posted by DarthZoom
Just curious, if you were to list Phoenix's power set, what would you put down?

Energy Projection, Reality Warping, Time/space Control, Universal Level of Telekinese down to a sub atomic level, Telepathy to I believe unknown degree (Universal?), Energy Manipulator, Forcefield Projection, Teleporting, etc.

Originally posted by Xplosive
I hope you know what I wanted to point out with that quote.

I'm fully aware of that, I hope you understand my point too though.

Originally posted by Utrigita
What other time did the Phoenix engage Galactus in a battle? I'm curious to know really, and yes I know.

Excalibur #24-25

Energy Projection, Reality Warping, Time Control, Universal Level of Telekinese down to a sub atomic level, Telepathy to I believe unknown degree, Energy Manipulator, Forcefield Projection, Teleporting, etc.

Also she can drain the life energy of others. So in theory she could actually feast on Galactus.

In a fight between Dark Phoenix and Galactus, Galactus would eventually wear out and Dark Phoenix would smash him.

Originally posted by DarthZoom
Excalibur #24-25

They didn't fight in that Comic, The only thing Phoenix did iirc was to grip Nova in a telekinetic Grip and throw her at Galactus.

Originally posted by DarthZoom
Also she can drain the life energy of others. So in theory she could actually feast on Galactus.

Just like Galactus in theory could feast of the Phoenix Force? Problem is that to my knowledge neither have drained energy of a being of either calibre.

Isn't Abraxas considered a powerful cosmic being. Didn't he like kill Galactus'

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Isn't Abraxas considered a powerful cosmic being. Didn't he like kill Galactus'

Yes he did, he killed alternate Galactus' across the Multiverse.

Imo Abraxas is powerful but ultimately "nothing" more then a debatable Multiversal Being, I didn't mention him in league with the the showed, stated and theory based marvel omniversal beings, because he isn't up there imo.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Just like Galactus in theory could feast of the Phoenix Force? Problem is that to my knowledge neither have drained energy of a being of either calibre.

Doesn't Galactus need his equipment to drain energy?

Abraxas is indeed a very high end cosmic.

Originally posted by DarthZoom
Doesn't Galactus need his equipment to drain energy?

No.

Originally posted by Utrigita
No.

Any time I've seen him feed in the comics, it's been done through some form of machinery.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Imo Abraxas is powerful but ultimately "nothing" more then a debatable Multiversal Being, I didn't mention him in league with the the showed, stated and theory based marvel omniversal beings, because he isn't up there imo.

True.

Originally posted by DarthZoom
Any time I've seen him feed in the comics, it's been done through some form of machinery.

He doesn't need it.

In the past I did defend Galactus many times. But when I think better and go and remember his showings, they just weren't really impressive.

His best showing for me was when he fought Tyrant. Tyrant was immensely powerful, but Galactus defeated him. Supposedly already the consequence was numerous galaxies being destroyed (and they didn't even bother destroying them, but power of the battle alone did that). Not to mention in their second encounter Tyrant was besting him.

Then he was supposedly capable of draining an Omniverse (time and space), which never happened. Could he? I don't know. Maybe, but it just didn't happen. And even if he did, I don't think he would endanger powerful cosmic beings with that at all. I don't think he would be capable of absorbing all.

Let someone remember me what else impressively comes from him?.

Originally posted by DarthZoom
Any time I've seen him feed in the comics, it's been done through some form of machinery.

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Durability/ff25774co.jpg