Originally posted by CreshoskWell, there's the whole thing with his character being created 40 years ago and they didn't think of that then, now his character is already established.
Well, that's a sorry excuse.He can absorb the omniverse... but needs people to find him food sources... rather than say, he just absorbs enough of the local reality to get by, like he'd do anyway, with assitence...
Just stupid really.
He could also eat stars that wouldn't affect any life, but he doesn't.
Originally posted by h1a8
Yes there are more powerful beings than a typical Galactus. But that wasn't a typical Galactus. He already absorbed some mega things (like a Celestial).
I don't remember Galactus doing it, but I remember Franklin Richards doing it disguised as Galactus and it was an alternate universe.
Galactus wears out, Dark Phoenix smites him.
Originally posted by galactusischereAd populem. Invalid argument.
everyone's saying galactus other than u, xplosive and some other guy
Years ago everyone was saying the earth was flat. Everyone was wrong. Years ago everyone was saying that disease is caused by an unbalance of humors or by bad smells. They were wrong. Years ago everyone said that you couldn't split the atom. Everyone was wrong.
"Everyone says" is an invalid argument.
Originally posted by galactusischereAnd yet they didn't show up in any of the events where Phoenix saves reality.. or even in things like House of M with the Chaos wave.
and yes he doesn't wish to destroy his own reality..
during the IG story he and the other abstracts went all out on Thanos to protect their own reality
Originally posted by CreshoskAnd yet they didn't show up in any of the events where Phoenix saves reality..
In fact, in 616,
the only time Phoenix saved Reality was during the Mkraan incident,
and it took the spirits & power
of all the X-Men & some Starjammers helping her to do so.
Originally posted by Creshoskor even in things like House of M with the Chaos wave.
What the heck was any abstract gonna do,
when the entire freakin Marvel Omniverse was re-arranged by Wanda?
Originally posted by Mr Master
Phoenix has never saved Reality under its own power,
she's always needed assistance.In fact, in 616,
to do so.[/B]
the only time Phoenix saved Reality was during the Mkraan incident,
and it took the spirits & power
of all the X-Men & some Starjammers [b]helping her
Am, PF saved reality, but she needed help of small X-Men and Starjammers to save it. 🙂
She didn't need their power, what can they do to help, when such power is involved. She needed their support, spirit, will.
The Omniverse (aside from 616) was torn to pieces,
Galactus was depicted on panel getting tossed like pollen in wind.
What the heck was any abstract gonna do,
when the entire freakin Marvel Omniverse was re-arranged by Wanda?
Well, you are right about that.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Phoenix has never saved Reality under its own power,
she's always needed assistance.In fact, in 616,
to do so.
the only time Phoenix saved Reality was during the Mkraan incident,
and it took the spirits & power
of all the X-Men & some Starjammers [b]helping her[/B]
AoA reality was preserved thanks to the Phoenix.
Originally posted by XplosiveAm, PF saved reality,
but she needed help of small X-Men and Starjammers to save it.She didn't need their power, what can they do to help,
when such power is involved.She needed their support, spirit, will.
Phoenix NEEDED their power!
Clearly and literally stated on panel!
There's NOTHING even alluded to on panel about "support" or "will" ..
only power ...
... and the fact that she also needed their spirits,
to avoid being erased from existence by the Neutron Galaxy. (a universal destroyer)
nice try.
Originally posted by id369AoA reality was preserved thanks to the Phoenix.
That's a single alternate reality,
which is a mote next to 616,
and an even more insignificant mote in the infinite prime Multiverse.
On top of that, the circumstances should be defined,
it's not like there was a universal destroyer stopped by Phoenix,
she stopped the "nukes" that would've cause a chain-reaction taking out the AoA reality.
The "nukes" were also stopped before they could engage on their mission though. 😬
So it's not like she stopped them mid-way
while they were actually collapsing the AoA reality,
heck, they hadn't even taken out the Earth bound to AoA yet.
Originally posted by Mr Master
That's not 616 friend. 🙂That's a single alternate reality,
which is a mote next to 616,
and an even more insignificant mote in the infinite prime Multiverse.On top of that, the circumstances should be defined,
it's not like there was a universal destroyer stopped by Phoenix,
she stopped the "nukes" that would've cause a chain-reaction taking out the AoA reality.The "nukes" were also stopped before they could engage on their mission though. 😬
So it's not like she stopped them mid-way
while they were actually collapsing the AoA reality,
heck, they hadn't even taken out the Earth bound to AoA yet.
And really the stopping nukes played no real part, in the preservation of the AoA timeline itself. Just AoA Earth. It’s the fact, that multiverse was going to reset itself, once Legion was stopped. M’Kran crystal was the reason, why 616 reality was wiped out and replaced by AoA.
In all other instances, alternate AoA where effectively destroyed. AoA prime is unique for the fact, that it’s the only reality of its kind to survive the ordeal.
Originally posted by id369
I don’t believe it’s as moot or insignificant as you make it out to be. Its well known, that AoA replaced the 616 in its prime infinite multiverse. That alone should hold some weight.And really the stopping nukes played no real part, in the preservation of the AoA timeline itself. Just AoA Earth. It’s the fact, that multiverse was going to reset itself, once Legion was stopped. M’Kran crystal was the reason, why 616 reality was wiped out and replaced by AoA.
In all other instances, alternate AoA where effectively destroyed. AoA prime is unique for the fact, that it’s the only reality of its kind to survive the ordeal.
As you know yourself, he likes to exaggerate things when the PF is in the debate.
Originally posted by Creshosk
You guys do know that you're debating with a known phoenix hater right?There's no way he'll admit to anything and he'll twist as much as he can to downplay her.
and Xplosive is downplaying Galactus..
I mean if Dark PHoenix is actually more powerful than Galactus then marvel should really consider destroying the character once and for all in a comic, I mean hes one of the biggest victims of PIS, is always jobbing and loses to most beings with considerable power that he could win against..
with that being said I still say Galactus will win
Originally posted by galactusischere
and Xplosive is downplaying Galactus..I mean if Dark PHoenix is actually more powerful than Galactus then marvel should really consider destroying the character once and for all in a comic, I mean hes one of the biggest victims of PIS, is always jobbing and loses to most beings with considerable power that he could win against..
with that being said I still say Galactus will win
I didn't downplay Galactus. I just said that none of his feats were really impressive, at least in my opinion.
I still say Dark Phoenix wins and Galactus eventually wears out.
Originally posted by Xplosive
I didn't downplay Galactus. I just said that none of his feats were really impressive, at least in my opinion.I still say Dark Phoenix wins and Galactus eventually wears out.
what's DPs biggest feat?
She doesn't have any impressive feats either.
and as for feats Galactus has defeated Tyrant which resulted in destruction of many galaxies.
has the UN
ate a celestial
and punk'd Abraxas...
Originally posted by Xplosive
Still, Dark Phoenix wins.
this is their other encounter
http://img423.imageshack.us/img423/5127/g1sm9.jpg
Originally posted by galactusischereThat it?
this is their other encounter
http://img423.imageshack.us/img423/5127/g1sm9.jpg
Unless you've got more, a non-fight isn't evidence in a fight.
I see no difference Dark Phoenix taking Galactus down as Phoenix II did it. The worst for Galactus fans is that in straight up fight Rachel didn't even have trouble. It was an easy match up for her. I see the same for Dark Phoenix and Galactus. I see Dark Phoenix taking him down, then Galactus blabbing in trying also to save his ass (but wouldn't help this time) that Dark Phoenix is more dangerous than him and that soon stars won't sate her, but will move on galaxies and then universe.
