dark phoenix v galactus

Started by Mr Master17 pages

Originally posted by id369

Wow hold your horses. Your are greatly mistaken. I suggest you re-read the entire ordeal commencing with Legions quest.

AoA is not a diverged timeline steaming from the 616 reality. But a separate reality all together, occupying its own space. When the 616 reality was wiped out, AoA reality took over its space.


As I recall ... 616 was never wiped out.

Post the proof of your claims, and I'll concede if it checks out.

... or Simple:

Legion traveled back in time, committed an act,
and this produced the AoA diverged future.

Nothing more.

Originally posted by id369

Your not making any sense.

How are nuclear weapons going to effect an entire timeline? Short answer it doesn’t.

Apocalypse drooping its nuclear bombardment was one set of problems. However to the greater realization known to few. Was that their reality was occupying another’s timeline. If events where to be rectified, AoA reality would not continue to exist as a parallel reality but cease to exist all together.


I see you didn't see what I was saying.
Originally posted by id369

Its not a statement but an actual event. When events in the past changed due to Legions, manipulation. 616 reality was wiped out. 616 timeline did not recover, it was replaced AoA.


Nah.

Try and find proof that suggests 616
or the "Prime" reality was erased and replaced by AoA.

Originally posted by id369

You cant just go about and cheery pick events and explanations to fit your views. That is a shaddy way, to make a standing argument.


There's nothing more shady up in this forum than your respect thread. 😬

Well, the Dr Strange joint gives it a run for its money.

Originally posted by id369

AoA is not a diverge possible future, but a separate reality all together. A reality that replaced 616, when it was destroyed by M’Kran crystal.


Nah.

AoA is nothing more than a possible diverged future. (an alternate reality)

616 was always 616, and was never affected.

This is why ONLY X-Men were involved in the AoA story.

* Or were you under the impression that 'What If' stories replace 616? 😆

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33

All I see here is "wahhhh wahhhhh I cannot comprehend the scary mans words wahhhh wahhh"

Get over it son. The fact is the PF is probably one of the most over-hyped characters in all of comicdom. You know this is true when you have people actually say "The PF is second to the LT" or "The PF is the LT's equal". There are many a character who far outstrip the PF in terms of on panel showings and yet they never get the same consideration.

PF and it's avatars get wanked mostly based on what's said about them rather than what they've actually done.


👆

He does that in any debate where he finds himself ignorant.

I guess he figures, if he can't produced any ideas/proof of significance,
he might aswell bait members into a war of words,
cause he's good at that, most frustrated individuals are.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
All I see here is "wahhhh wahhhhh I cannot comprehend the scary mans words wahhhh wahhh"
reported for trolling. 🙂

Originally posted by Creshosk
reported for trolling. 🙂

You mean flaming right? I stuck to the topic.

Originally posted by id369
Wow hold your horses. Your are greatly mistaken. I suggest you re-read the entire ordeal commencing with Legions quest.

AoA is not a diverged timeline steaming from the 616 reality. But a separate reality all together, occupying its own space. When the 616 reality was wiped out, AoA reality took over its space.

You're wasting your time.

The X-Men were even watching the crystallization of the universe. Gambit kissed rogue expecting the end of reality.

Then when the time line was restored things picked up where they left off, ore or less and Gambit wound up in a coma.

There's even a gap where they stopped printing the regular 616 comics until the event was over. Generation X was being turned out at one a month until February 1995. The next Gen X title isn't printed until July 1995.

They even state that the titles ceased to exist for that time:

But he'll never accept that.

Originally posted by Creshosk

reported for trolling. 🙂


Originally posted by Creshosk

You're wasting your time.

Mr. Master swallows hyperbole like we breath air.

Even if it makes no sense for what's stated to be true,
he gets all hopped up on "Marvel said it! it must be true!"


Originally posted by Creshosk

You guys do know that you're debating with a known phoenix hater right?

There's no way l admit to anything

and ll twist as much as he can downplay her.


Originally posted by Creshosk

Mr Master

Today 11:50 PM This person is on your Ignore List. To view this post click [here]

Its so nice not having to read bullshit.


Holy ironies Batman.

This is why I believe you belong in a blue oyster bar.
(classic showings of a she-he)

B*tch, b*tch b*tch ...

when someone bites back ...

... ooh, let me now "report" "report" ... I hate girlish men.

He has no argument. Now he's going to fling more poo knowing he doesn't have to see your responses

Galactus wins this.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
You mean flaming right? I stuck to the topic.
No, trolling.

That part I quoted has nothing to do with the topic.

Even when I was pointing out that Mr. Master wouldn't agree. That wasn't trolling. as I certainly don't care if he responds. I'll never see it because he's on ignore. But its a waste of time to debate with him.

He put me on ignore when he said the same thing about me. bluesrug

So since we have each other on ignore, I don't think he'll see what I post.

Originally posted by Creshosk

You're wasting your time.

The X-Men were even watching the crystallization of the universe. Gambit kissed rogue expecting the end of reality.

Then when the time line was restored things picked up where they left off, ore or less and Gambit wound up in a coma.

There's even a gap where they stopped printing the regular 616 comics until the event was over. Generation X was being turned out at one a month until February 1995. The next Gen X title isn't printed until July 1995.

They even state that the titles ceased to exist for that time:


facepalm

Since you're so intent on being a woman,
you didn't even realize I clearly said,
AoA arc ONLY affected X-Men affiliated titles! dur

FF/Hulk/Thor/Spiderman Avengers ect, ect were all being published,
withOUT a blip allusion of any AoA world taking place.

616 was always there, and 616 titles were being published,
and they had nothing to do with AoA.

Should I post all the other Marvel Universe mainstream titles
published at the same time AoA was happening?

I'll be more than happy to oblige,'then you can try and point out to me,
how every other title (separate from X-crap)
somehow didn't notice AoA all around them,
how they completely ignored it .. yet the world around them was about to be destroyed. 😂

Originally posted by Creshosk

But he'll never accept that.


Bull shit?

I agree.

Originally posted by Mr Master
As I recall ... 616 was never wiped out.

Post the proof of your claims, and I'll concede if it checks out.

... or Simple:

Legion traveled back in time, committed an act,
and this produced the AoA diverged future.

Nothing more.



Come on be real. You will never concede to any point but own.

Simply put; you cant create a diverge timeline. If there is no timeline from which to create.

The destruction the universe took place X-Men #41. When it M’Kran crystallized the universe and then shattered it.

http://a.imagehost.org/0034/X-Men041p18.jpg
http://a.imagehost.org/0216/X-Men041p19.jpg
http://a.imagehost.org/0519/X-Men041p20.jpg
http://a.imagehost.org/0922/X-Men041p21.jpg
http://a.imagehost.org/view/0726/X-Men041p22and23

The Crystallization wave.
The destruction of all realities
Continues its inexorable onslaught towards the blue green world called Earth.

Originally posted by Mr Master

Nah.

Try and find proof that suggests 616
or the "Prime" reality was erased and replaced by AoA.


Ok, from X-Man #69

http://h.imagehost.org/view/0828/05

Weren’t you born in a parallel Earth. That stopped existing so the Earth you now inhibit exists. - Alternate Nate.

How could you know this? - Nate Grey

Me to, we all where. - Alternate Nate

Originally posted by Mr Master
There's nothing more shady up in this forum than your respect thread.

Well, the Dr Strange joint gives it a run for its money.

Hey guess what? Your allowed to have an opinion. However incorrect it may be. Your entitled to it.

Speaking of it, maybe you should do another;
The de-construction of Here Comes Tomorrow ... the final debate!
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=489369

Originally posted by Mr Master
Nah.

AoA is nothing more than a possible diverged future. (an alternate reality)

616 was always 616, and was never affected.

This is why ONLY X-Men were involved in the AoA story.


Comicbook states X-Man (Nate Grey) comes from a parallel reality, not a diverged reality. You don’t mind me taking their word over yours.

Originally posted by Creshosk
No, trolling.

That part I quoted has nothing to do with the topic.

Even when I was pointing out that Mr. Master wouldn't agree. That wasn't trolling. as I certainly don't care if he responds. I'll never see it because he's on ignore. But its a waste of time to debate with him.

He put me on ignore when he said the same thing about me. bluesrug

So since we have each other on ignore, I don't think he'll see what I post.

Except he's quoting all of your posts up till now so I think it's fair to say he knows what you're saying.

Is this another 'Mr. M is misinterpreting things again' kind of thing? Like your "What is an omniverse really?" debacle where you tried to apply real world logic to a fictional setting?

Either way, if you have the man on ignore, then ignore him. Don't throw digs at him knowing you can't be stung by his retorts.

Originally posted by id369

Speaking of it, maybe you should do another;
The de-construction of Here Comes Tomorrow ... the final debate!
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=489369
😂 Holy crap that was awesome.

I didn't see a single one of his posts but the afterword was great.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Except he's quoting all of your posts up till now so I think it's fair to say he knows what you're saying.
Howe the hell was I supposed to know that? He's on ignore.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Is this another 'Mr. M is misinterpreting things again' kind of thing? Like your "What is an omniverse really?" debacle where you tried to apply real world logic to a fictional setting?
Is what?

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Either way, if you have the man on ignore, then ignore him. Don't throw digs at him knowing you can't be stung by his retorts.
I didn't think he'd see them. He kept telling me I'm on ignore. I'm used to people not taking me off of ignore.

So I was warning people not to get into it with him because of what he does to me.

Originally posted by Creshosk
😂 Holy crap that was awesome.

I didn't see a single one of his posts but the afterword was great.

See, there you go again. Your ignoring him stinks of cowardice. You can't confront the man in a debate so you're going to hide and throw out digs with a snigger.

When you ignore someone it usually means you don't want to have anything to do with them whatsoever.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
See, there you go again. Your ignoring him stinks of cowardice. You can't confront the man in a debate so you're going to hide and throw out digs with a snigger.
If that's how you want to interpret it go for it. It's wrong, but you're free to.

But I'm done playing with him, its the same cycle over and over again.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
When you ignore someone it usually means you don't want to have anything to do with them whatsoever.
And I don't want others to suffer like I have.

No point in trying to debate him. He's a brick wall. He says that he'll concede on points if you prove it.. but when you prove it he twists and twists and twists.

So tell me why shouldn't I warn others against falling into the traps I've fallen into?

Oh wait, you're his number one fanboy... Are you the pitcher or the catcher? You seem like the pitcher. I should probably put you on ignore as well. mmm But I'd certainly miss that sig and avi of yours.

Originally posted by id369

Come on be real. You will never concede to any point but own.


Come on be real. You will never concede to any point but own.

See, easy to post gibberish.

Originally posted by id369

Simply put; you cant create a diverge timeline.
If there is no timeline from which to create.


All other Marvel Universe titles were doing just fine in 616,
with no mention or interruption from any AoA world.
Originally posted by id369

The destruction the universe took place X-Men #41.
When it M’Kran crystallized the universe and then shattered it.

The Crystallization wave.
The destruction of all realities
Continues its inexorable onslaught towards the blue green world called Earth.


Nice, but only the world seen through the eyes of the X-Men,
& X-Men affiliated titles felt this affect.
Originally posted by id369

Ok, from X-Man #69

Weren’t you born in a parallel Earth.
That stopped existing so the Earth you now inhibit exists. - Alternate Nate.

How could you know this? - Nate Grey

Me to, we all where. - Alternate Nate


Time was inadvertantly altered by Legion's time-travel,
so the after-effect was the creation of the AoA Timeline.

That's a classic 'What if' style alteration.

Originally posted by id369

Hey guess what? Your allowed to have an opinion.
However incorrect it may be.
Your entitled to it.


Hey guess what? Your allowed to have an opinion.
However incorrect it may be.
Your entitled to it.
Originally posted by id369

Speaking of it, maybe you should do another;
The de-construction of Here Comes Tomorrow ... the final debate!


When ever you wanna challenge me
on the Necrom/Multiversal collapse with a fraction of the PF,
let me know, cause out of respect I didn't go in that comedy and shatter it,
instead, I've been waiting for that ridiculous claim to be brought into a public debate.

Nice try btw, I know you know the truth.

Originally posted by id369

Comicbook states X-Man (Nate Grey) comes from a parallel reality, not a diverged reality. You don’t mind me taking their word over yours.


Parrallel/diverged ... whatever, it ain't 616, and that's the crux of the matter.

if the bashing continues, warnings will be handed out.

Originally posted by Mr Master
The difference betwen us is that I KNOW why Necrom/Roma said that,

No, the difference and the point is that you said many times PF can't do anything with Multiverse while Necrom was able and with far less power than PF has. You were wrong.

Except if everything is wrong. What are the issues?

Originally posted by Creshosk
If that's how you want to interpret it go for it. It's wrong, but you're free to.

But I'm done playing with him, its the same cycle over and over again.

And I don't want others to suffer like I have.

No point in trying to debate him. He's a brick wall. He says that he'll concede on points if you prove it.. but when you prove it he twists and twists and twists.

So tell me why shouldn't I warn others against falling into the traps I've fallen into?

Oh wait, you're his number one fanboy... Are you the pitcher or the catcher? You seem like the pitcher. I should probably put you on ignore as well. mmm But I'd certainly miss that sig and avi of yours.


My lord!

You're still juggling my nuts?

Dude, the blue oyster is calling you,
be as womanly as you appear in your picture in the album thread,
and go shopping or something,
but let us enjoy our forum free of your personal hating.

If your girl left you, or her moms or granny died and now you mad,
be a man and suck it up, don't be such a b*tch in life,
ther's more women out there,
yea, yea perhaps you only felt comfortable with her
considering you small member and all, (I remeber you telling me about that)
and I guess you figured, if you can't find another woman as tiny as her,
you'll be assed out since an average sized woman
would be too much for your runty ass, if even 4'11' Hitsu was beyond your control.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Oh wait, you're his number one fanboy... Are you the pitcher or the catcher? You seem like the pitcher. I should probably put you on ignore as well. mmm But I'd certainly miss that sig and avi of yours.

I spy, with my little eye, A TROLL! Did I hurt your feelings my child?

Actually, my issue is I want you pro-PF'ers to make a convincing argument instead of spouting nonsense like this:

Originally posted by Xplosive
Although I must admit that there also weren't some impressive feats from the Dark Phoenix.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Still, Dark Phoenix wins.

Tell you what, make your case, give me evidence and I want scans, lots of scans. You say proof is being ignored? By all means, let's see this proof.

Creshosk, I submit to you, how does Dark Phoenix beat Galactus?