dark phoenix v galactus

Started by galactusischere17 pages
Originally posted by Xplosive
I see no difference Dark Phoenix taking Galactus down as Phoenix II did it. The worst for Galactus fans is that in straight up fight Rachel didn't even have trouble. It was an easy match up for her. I see the same for Dark Phoenix and Galactus. I see Dark Phoenix taking him down, then Galactus blabbing in trying also to save his ass (but wouldn't help this time) that Dark Phoenix is more dangerous than him and that soon stars won't sate her, but will move on galaxies and then universe.

if she so easily defeated Galactus why didn't she do it quickly?
so that the planet wouldn't be damaged so much?
and Galactus aswell mentioned that he was starving

Originally posted by galactusischere
if she so easily defeated Galactus why didn't she do it quickly?
so that the planet wouldn't be damaged so much?
and Galactus aswell mentioned that he was starving

Actually, she did it quickly and quickly brought him to his knees. It was stupid on her part. But as the fight alone, it was an easy match for her.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Actually, she did it quickly and quickly brought him to his knees. It was stupid on her part. But as the fight alone, it was an easy match for her.

phoenix's greates feat is holding and repairing Eternity isn't that right?
Eternity was scared sh*tless of Abraxas and see how big G punked him..
"You hold nothing, you ARE nothing"

plus Galactus wields the Ultimate Nullifier
no way is phoenix going to top that especially a single avatar of the force

Originally posted by id369

I don’t believe it’s as moot or insignificant as you make it out to be. Its well known, that AoA replaced the 616 in its prime infinite multiverse. That alone should hold some weight.


AoA didn't replace anything.

I now remember the story well,
a new Reality was created when Legion went into the past,
which in turn diverged a reality known as AoA.

But I noticed after reviewing my notes,
that 616 was never wiped out/re-aranged "replaced" or even affected at all.

AoA was a possible future, that diverged from Legion's time-travel,
just like any other What If. (an alternate reality)

Originally posted by id369

And really the stopping nukes played no real part, in the preservation of the AoA timeline itself. Just AoA Earth.


That's right.

Jean did nothing more than stop nukes that would've destroyed that alternate earth.
Thus preventing the nukes from stopping the X-Men's success.
Although yes, ultimately this saved that alternate Timeline (AoA)
from being erased,
which is good for those X-Men, who existed in that alternate world.

But NO other heroes existed in this possible future,
which is why this wasn't 616,
and instead an X-Men story constricted to X-Men affiliated issues.

* When 616 is actually affected, all mainstream Marvel titles feel the pain.

Originally posted by id369

It’s the fact, that multiverse was going to reset itself, once Legion was stopped. M’Kran crystal was the reason, why 616 reality was wiped out and replaced by AoA.


Yea, the Mkraan Crystal was stated to be able to that,
but that had nothing to do with AoA diverging,
or with 616 being affected at all, since 616 never was anyway.

*note* Mkraan Crystal was shattered on panel before,
and only a single Universe was remade,
so until I see something other, it's nothing more than a Universal remaker,
even though it's Handbook bio claims it has Multiveral capabilities.
(I'll say it's possible I guess, but it contradicts the capabilites of the M-Crystal,
witnessed on panel)

Originally posted by id369

In all other instances, alternate AoA where effectively destroyed. AoA prime is unique for the fact, that it’s the only reality of its kind to survive the ordeal.


AoA is simply an alternate diverged possible future,
no different than any other of the countless possible futures of the Multiverse.

So yea, Jean & the X-Men saved a Timeline,
but again, not against a reality destroyer, but instead against a time-traveling anamoly,
that affected space-time by creating that alternate reality known as AoA.

Bottomeline:

Phoenix has never saved the 616 Reality under its own power.
The only time Phoenix was invloved in the salvation of 616,
was during the Mkraan affair,
and she needed the spirits and power of all the X-Men
and some StarJammers to do so.

Mr Master
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Its so nice not having to read bullshit.

Originally posted by Xplosive

As you know yourself, he likes to exaggerate things when the PF is in the debate.


As we all know,
you like to swallow any bullshit that's thrown your way withOUT actually
researching for yourself the material.

This is why you end up with ludicrous claims like
"so only a fraction of the Phoenix-Force can collapse the Multiverse" durlaugh

I mean, are you freakin kiddin me?

If you'd actually read the arc for yourself,
you'd know the bias Phoenix wanking deceptive nonsense that is.

Fool! ... you wanna accuse me of shit dogs,
you best be ready to prove your worthless drivel son.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Mr Master
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Its so nice not having to read bullshit.

instead of flamin master and galactus prove ur point how is phoenix going to beat galactus

Originally posted by galactusischere
phoenix's greates feat is holding and repairing Eternity isn't that right?
Eternity was scared sh*tless of Abraxas and see how big G punked him..
"You hold nothing, you ARE nothing"

Am, I didn't want to bring it up, but where did Galactus punk Abraxas? He didn't punk him. He didn't beat him in a fight. Let's not exaggerate.

Originally posted by Mr Master
This is why you end up with ludicrous claims like
"so only a fraction of the Phoenix-Force can collapse the Multiverse" durlaugh

I mean, are you freakin kiddin me?

If you'd actually read the arc for yourself,
you'd know the bias Phoenix wanking deceptive nonsense that is.

Then explain what was it? Why did Roma say that? I would love to read it from you, your bullshits.

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/7190/excalibur050p03.jpg

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/908/excalibur049p21.jpg

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/100/excalibur049p22.jpg

[QUOTE=12229740]Originally posted by Xplosive
[B]Am, I didn't want to bring it up, but where did Galactus punk Abraxas? He didn't punk him. He didn't beat him in a fight. Let's not exaggerate.

"You hold nothing.. you are NOTHING" takes away the UN
"The UN as much part of me as my heart"

So UN>>>Abraxas>>>>>>Phoenix
and g wields the UN

This looks like a very original thread, probably only done 99999999999999999999 times on the internet. You guys obviously have lots of 'special wisdom'.

Originally posted by Creshosk

You're wasting your time.

Mr. Master swallows hyperbole like we breath air.

Even if it makes no sense for what's stated to be true, he gets all hopped up on "Marvel said it! it must be true!"


Originally posted by Creshosk

You guys do know that you're debating with a known phoenix hater right?

There's no way he'll admit to anything

and he'll twist as much as he can to downplay her.


Originally posted by Creshosk

Mr Master

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Its so nice not having to read bullshit.


This is the THIRD time you attack me directly,
while I haven't acknowledged your existence until now.

Sheesh, you really are one sexually frustrated individual,
get a life, and stop making me the subject of your pleasure,
you ain't ever gonna get this, so stop dreamin,
you're better off at you local blue oyster.

... heck, from the look of your picture in the album thread,
I can tell your kness be aching. (seruiously, you actually look the part of a b*tch)

Then again, I see your ploy, to bait me into reacting,
which I have, but 'F' it, it felt good.

Meh, Reported for trolling/flaming
due to lack of any knowledge concerning the debate.

Originally posted by Genius Poster
This looks like a very original thread, probably only done 99999999999999999999 times on the internet. You guys obviously have lots of 'special wisdom'.

Originally posted by galactusischere

phoenix's greates feat is holding and repairing Eternity isn't that right?


Phoenix never held Eternity, in any way, shape or form good friend.

Phoenix had a representation of an alternate reality (15104) in her hands.

Phoenix did repair the future of reality 15104 by atomically extracting Sublime
from that reality,
this cleansed that alternate possible future.

It was Scott Summers that created and nullified reality 15104,
he did so with a thought,
which is the same way all 'What If' titles are created.

Originally posted by Xplosive

Then explain what was it?
Why did Roma say that?
I would love to read it from you, your bullshits.

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/7190/excalibur050p03.jpg

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/908/excalibur049p21.jpg

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/100/excalibur049p22.jpg


😆

Exactly my point!

You have no freakin idea what is the context there,
why?

Because your simple ass has never opened up a single page from that story,
you went ahead and followed the respect thread into cluelessness.

I can't wait to get home and curbstomp your fantasies.

Then you'll understand what the 'F' Roma is talking about,
which has absolutely NOTHING to do with Necrom's connection to Phoenix,
or with Phoenix at all.

You'll also understand why Necrom made that claim,
an empty claim, with purpose.

But how can you ever know, when you're like the blind being led by the blind.

Originally posted by galactusischere
instead of flamin master and galactus prove ur point how is phoenix going to beat galactus
I'm not flaming him. I'm saying his posts are about as good as rutogs.

Originally posted by Creshosk

I'm not flaming him. I'm saying his posts are about as good as rutogs.


This coming from one of the laughing stocks of the forum,
means little to me.

Originally posted by Mr Master
But how can you ever know, when you're like the blind being led by the blind.

Ok, you can tell it in a nicer way. I am not blind. I believe him, the one posted. The blindness is, if I see more optiones posted and choses the wrong option. Then I am blind. I've seen those scans. Give me the issues and I will read it.
Or maybe it wil prove you are blinded because of Phoenix hatred and can't see it well, but you so sure of yourself. We'll see.

But anyway, Necrom said he will compress alternate Earths through the Multiverse into a singularity with only portion of the Phoenix Force power.
Roma stated the Multiverse is collapsing (I thought because of what Necrom was doing), but scans can be deceiving. What you will say, I won't believe, that's why the best is to read it myself.

Anyway, you said many many times PF cannot affect or to encroach on Multiverse in any shape or form, but that scan proves you wrong. Because Necrom was affecting it and that proves you wrong and your previous claims. And then he wanted even greater power (PF) and he was already capable of doing that before it.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Mr Master
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Its so nice not having to read bullshit.

All I see here is "wahhhh wahhhhh I cannot comprehend the scary mans words wahhhh wahhh"

Get over it son. The fact is the PF is probably one of the most over-hyped characters in all of comicdom. You know this is true when you have people actually say "The PF is second to the LT" or "The PF is the LT's equal". There are many a character who far outstrip the PF in terms of on panel showings and yet they never get the same consideration.

PF and it's avatars get wanked mostly based on what's said about them rather than what they've actually done.

Originally posted by Mr Master
AoA didn't replace anything.

I now remember the story well,
a new Reality was created when Legion went into the past,
which in turn diverged a reality known as AoA.

But I noticed after reviewing my notes,
that 616 was never wiped out/re-aranged "replaced" or even affected at all.

AoA was a possible future, that diverged from Legion's time-travel,
just like any other What If. (an alternate reality)


Wow hold your horses. Your are greatly mistaken. I suggest you re-read the entire ordeal commencing with Legions quest.

AoA is not a diverged timeline steaming from the 616 reality. But a separate reality all together, occupying its own space. When the 616 reality was wiped out, AoA reality took over its space.

Originally posted by Mr Master

That's right.

Jean did nothing more than stop nukes that would've destroyed that alternate earth.
Thus preventing the nukes from stopping the X-Men's success.
Although yes, ultimately this saved that alternate Timeline (AoA)
from being erased,
which is good for those X-Men, who existed in that alternate world.

But NO other heroes existed in this possible future,
which is why this wasn't 616,
and instead an X-Men story constricted to X-Men affiliated issues.

* When 616 is actually affected, all mainstream Marvel titles feel the pain.

Your not making any sense.

How are nuclear weapons going to effect an entire timeline? Short answer it doesn’t.

Apocalypse drooping its nuclear bombardment was one set of problems. However to the greater realization known to few. Was that their reality was occupying another’s timeline. If events where to be rectified, AoA reality would not continue to exist as a parallel reality but cease to exist all together.

Originally posted by Mr Master

Yea, the Mkraan Crystal was stated to be able to that,
but that had nothing to do with AoA diverging,
or with 616 being affected at all, since 616 never was anyway.

*note* Mkraan Crystal was shattered on panel before,
and [b]only
a single Universe was remade,
so until I see something other, it's nothing more than a Universal remaker,
even though it's Handbook bio claims it has Multiveral capabilities.
(I'll say it's possible I guess, but it contradicts the capabilites of the M-Crystal,
witnessed on panel)
[/B]

Its not a statement but an actual event. When events in the past changed due to Legions, manipulation. 616 reality was wiped out. 616 timeline did not recover, it was replaced AoA.

You cant just go about and cheery pick events and explanations to fit your views. That is a shaddy way, to make a standing argument.

Originally posted by Mr Master

AoA is simply an alternate diverged possible future,
no different than any other of the countless possible futures of the Multiverse.

So yea, Jean & the X-Men saved a Timeline,
but again, not against a reality destroyer, but instead against a time-traveling anamoly,
that affected space-time by creating that alternate reality known as AoA.

Bottomeline:

Phoenix has never saved the 616 Reality under its own power.
The [b]only
time Phoenix was invloved in the salvation of 616,
was during the Mkraan affair,
and she needed the spirits and power of all the X-Men
and some StarJammers to do so. [/B]

AoA is not a diverge possible future, but a separate reality all together. A reality that replaced 616, when it was destroyed by M’Kran crystal.

Originally posted by Xplosive

Ok, you can tell it in a nicer way. I am not blind. I believe him, the one posted. The blindness is, if I see more optiones posted and choses the wrong option. Then I am blind. I've seen those scans. Give me the issues and I will read it


If you believe Necrom was going to collapse the Multiverse with the Phoneix Force,
let alone with a "fraction" 😂 ... you're definitely posting blindly.
Originally posted by Xplosive

Or maybe it wil prove you are blinded because of Phoenix hatred and can't see it well, but you so sure of yourself.


Gibberish.

I don't hate Phoenix, I hate the intransigent fanboys.

Originally posted by Xplosive

But anyway, Necrom said he will compress alternate Earths through the Multiverse into a singularity with only portion of the Phoenix Force power.
Roma stated the Multiverse is collapsing (I thought because of what Necrom was doing), but scans can be deceiving. What you will say, I won't believe, that's why the best is to read it myself.


I know what Necrom said, and waht ROma said.

The difference betwen us is that I KNOW why Necrom/Roma said that,
while you're under an impression
according to carefully deceptive selective pages being posted,
which can lead one to believe that bull shit

So, I forgive you, cause anyone can be folled by the sneakiness.
Meh, not the first time deliberate falsification coming from that thread.

Originally posted by Xplosive

Anyway, you said many many times PF cannot affect or to encroach on Multiverse in any shape or form, but that scan proves you wrong. Because Necrom was affecting it and that proves you wrong and your previous claims. And then he wanted even greater power (PF) and he was already capable of doing that before it.


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