The Vampire Diaries

Started by Thoren28 pages

I thought last nights episode was solid too.

As for the person who he is fleeing from, at first I thought it might be his father. I know his family was turned into Vampires by the first witch, but who's to say his dear old dad isn't the strongest of them. Then my other thought is, maybe his dad didn't kill all of the family the mother had an affair with, and the other guy is the first werewolf. But I'm leaning towards maybe they're running from daddy.

They're running from Damon.

He's only pretending to be weak around Klaus.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
anyone have any idea who klaus is afraid of?

The detective who was talking to Stephan in the 20s. You don't get Sebastian Roche for a bit part like that, so it pretty much guaranteed that he will show up again in the main story line making him immortal some way or another.

If you like Sebastian Roche so much then why don't you marry him!

If you dislike Sebastian Roche so much why don't you kill him!

Maybe I will!

thought last night was decent.. wanted a little more...

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The detective who was talking to Stephan in the 20s. You don't get Sebastian Roche for a bit part like that, so it pretty much guaranteed that he will show up again in the main story line making him immortal some way or another.

I've been a fan of his for years.. I don't think they will waste his talent

What do you guys think about HRG being able to resist compulsion?

I don't really buy that strong-willed thing. If he had known about it over a few decades, why didn't he train the others on the council? Also, Elena (and others) seems to be a character with quite a strong will, yet susceptible.

Also, just because he didn't have vervain in his blood, doesn't mean he doesn't have it on his persons, and it didn't seem like they checked for it.

I hope there is another explanation, cause it'll be much cooler.

This Michael dude, there better be some REALLY good explanation why he can kill an immortal original hybrid. I'm really struggling to think of any reason why.

Here are the facts (and assumptions):

- Klaus is stronger and faster due to being an Original
- Klaus can compel other vampires
- Klaus cannot be killed conventionally
- Klaus can kill other vampires with a lycan bite.
- Michael is a vampire "Vampire Hunter", but Klaus is a hybrid.

- Michael, not an original - can die/can be compelled

So I really think even if Michael has some secret weapon or method, he can still be killed by Klaus. I'm thinking its probably some magic bullshit like the witches gave Michael something to "keep the vampires in check". But even then, as long as Michael is not truly immortal (which I doubt he is, because then the writers will have to come up with yet another lame exception like "oh wait, he isn't REALLY immortal either" when the time comes to end his character), Klaus should be able to kill him easily. Heck, Klaus is like a freaking god, he can compel an army of vampires (or Jack Bauer - umad Roche?) to hunt down whoever he wants, who needs hybrids?

/rambling

Michael is most likely an Original, Michael is probably their daddy. And Maybe the Original witch is their mom...and the first doppleganger...who knows.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Michael is most likely an Original, Michael is probably their daddy. And Maybe the Original witch is their mom...and the first doppleganger...who knows.

Yeah, that occurred to me...

But, why does Elijah never mention him? He has described Originals and Klaus many times and has always said they were immortal. Quite a detail to leave out IMO.

That said, I hope Elijah comes back, he was a cool cat.

Originally posted by Placidity
This Michael dude, there better be some REALLY good explanation why he can kill an immortal original hybrid. I'm really struggling to think of any reason why.

Here are the facts (and assumptions):

- Klaus is stronger and faster due to being an Original
- Klaus can compel other vampires
- Klaus cannot be killed conventionally
- Klaus can kill other vampires with a lycan bite.
- Michael is a vampire "Vampire Hunter", but Klaus is a hybrid.

- Michael, not an original - can die/can be compelled

So I really think even if Michael has some secret weapon or method, he can still be killed by Klaus. I'm thinking its probably some magic bullshit like the witches gave Michael something to "keep the vampires in check". But even then, as long as Michael is not truly immortal (which I doubt he is, because then the writers will have to come up with yet another lame exception like "oh wait, he isn't REALLY immortal either" when the time comes to end his character), Klaus should be able to kill him easily. Heck, Klaus is like a freaking god, he can compel an army of vampires (or Jack Bauer - umad Roche?) to hunt down whoever he wants, who needs hybrids?

/rambling

Maybe he is the only vampire who isn't retard and realizes that if he speed blitz ambushes an original with an axe and cuts of their head off then tosses the body in a incinerator that they wont be much of a threat? Damon took out Elijah with a heart rip for a decent amount of time, I don't know why they haven't tried that again, and coupled it with some dismemberment and incineration while the original is incapacitated. 😎

Last night episode was really good with tyler turning into a hybrid but i wonder this if michael know how to kill klaus and succeeds in doing that then who will kill michael?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Maybe he is the only vampire who isn't retard and realizes that if he speed blitz ambushes an original with an axe and cuts of their head off then tosses the body in a incinerator that they wont be much of a threat? Damon took out Elijah with a heart rip for a decent amount of time, I don't know why they haven't tried that again, and coupled it with some dismemberment and incineration while the original is incapacitated. 😎

Unfortunately, while Michael may not be retarded, he is still susceptible to PIS.

Oh wait I haz a theory!

While Michael may be significantly weaker than an original - he is likely "angrier", that may explain how he could beat them.

Originally posted by Placidity
This Michael dude, there better be some REALLY good explanation why he can kill an immortal original hybrid. I'm really struggling to think of any reason why.

Here are the facts (and assumptions):

- Klaus is stronger and faster due to being an Original
- Klaus can compel other vampires
- Klaus cannot be killed conventionally
- Klaus can kill other vampires with a lycan bite.
- Michael is a vampire "Vampire Hunter", but Klaus is a hybrid.

- Michael, not an original - can die/can be compelled

So I really think even if Michael has some secret weapon or method, he can still be killed by Klaus. I'm thinking its probably some magic bullshit like the witches gave Michael something to "keep the vampires in check". But even then, as long as Michael is not truly immortal (which I doubt he is, because then the writers will have to come up with yet another lame exception like "oh wait, he isn't REALLY immortal either" when the time comes to end his character), Klaus should be able to kill him easily. Heck, Klaus is like a freaking god, he can compel an army of vampires (or Jack Bauer - umad Roche?) to hunt down whoever he wants, who needs hybrids?

/rambling

Mikey is a witch and a hybrid.

Originally posted by Placidity
Unfortunately, while Michael may not be retarded, he is still susceptible to PIS.

Oh wait I haz a theory!

While Michael may be significantly weaker than an original - he is likely "angrier", that may explain how he could beat them.

<3 Caroline, she's the angriest 😍

Mikael

Oh, Didn't think of that one. Not too surprising though, given the idea probably came from Blade 2. Can't wait to see how they explain his origins. What do you guys think though, is he a special vampire, or does he just have a method of killing originals?

Tyler

Seems his character is going down the path of the books. That could mean Caroline too...

Mason

Seems everyone is coming back from the grave. Looks like he is a hybrid now because he was moving with superspeed in human form, and he seems to be stronger than Damon.

Or, he is just a ghost.

Mason's reappearance was... unnecessary. Did anyone actually give a shit about him? 'Cuz I didn't.

I feel bad for katherine is she dead now that michael fed on her? Oh and another question who is stronger than him?

Originally posted by Placidity
Mikael

Oh, Didn't think of that one. Not too surprising though, given the idea probably came from Blade 2. Can't wait to see how they explain his origins. What do you guys think though, is he a special vampire, or does he just have a method of killing originals?

Tyler

Seems his character is going down the path of the books. That could mean Caroline too...

Mason

Seems everyone is coming back from the grave. Looks like he is a hybrid now because he was moving with superspeed in human form, and he seems to be stronger than Damon.

Or, he is just a ghost.

Pretty sure Mason is just a ghost seeing as the one ghost vamp ***** is back too.

Him being a hybrid wouldn't make any sense because he was dead long before the ritual was even done.