Kyle Rayner vs Nate Grey

Started by Slaanesh5 pages
Originally posted by DarthZoom
Original Ion yes, current Ion gets whopped. The current Ion doesn't have the feats the Original had.

he fought Prime longer than anybody did..he change a red star to yellow..all that > whatever Nate ever did..

nope

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Originally posted by Slaanesh
he fought Prime longer than anybody did..he change a red star to yellow..all that > whatever Nate ever did..

Prime kicked his ass.

Again, read Nate's powerset

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nate_Grey#Powers_and_abilities

Originally posted by DarthZoom
Prime kicked his ass.

Again, read Nate's powerset

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nate_Grey#Powers_and_abilities

i said he fought Prime longer than anybody did..i didn't say he beat Prime..

nothing is in there to make me think he can beat Yat with Ion power..

Originally posted by Slaanesh
i said he fought Prime longer than anybody did..i didn't say he beat Prime..

nothing is in there to make me think he can beat Yat with Ion power..

I don't think anything could convince you.

But let's see:

1.The character has the ability to tap into the enormous psychic resources of the astral plane in order to manipulate matter and energy.

2.This grants him incredible psychic powers including telepathy and telekinesis. He can use his telepathy to , control minds, create illusions by altering the perceptions of others, fire psionic blasts that can scramble an opponent's thought processes (causing the victim either intense pain, or rendering them unconscious)

3.Upon examination by Moira Mactaggert, she suggested his psionic powers rivalled that of a Phoenix Force-imbued Jean Grey. In another instance, he was measured as having a psionic energy output matching that of the Dark Phoenix.

4.He was also an extremely powerful telekinetic who could phase through solid matter, create destructive psionic spikes, and lift objects weighing up to 10 tons.

Why'd you just copy and paste what wiki said?

Originally posted by Mindset
Why'd you just copy and paste what wiki said?

And from the Marvel database as well.

Oh sorry, my bad.

Originally posted by Mindset
Oh sorry, my bad.

It's cool. 💃

Bring it in, let's hug it out.

Originally posted by Mindset
Bring it in, let's hug it out.

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Originally posted by DarthZoom
I don't think anything could convince you.

But let's see:

1.The character has the ability to tap into the enormous psychic resources of the astral plane in order to manipulate matter and energy.

2.This grants him incredible psychic powers including telepathy and telekinesis. He can use his telepathy to , control minds, create illusions by altering the perceptions of others, fire psionic blasts that can scramble an opponent's thought processes (causing the victim either intense pain, or rendering them unconscious)

3.Upon examination by Moira Mactaggert, she suggested his psionic powers rivalled that of a Phoenix Force-imbued Jean Grey. In another instance, he was measured as having a psionic energy output matching that of the Dark Phoenix.

4.He was also an extremely powerful telekinetic who could phase through solid matter, create destructive psionic spikes, and lift objects weighing up to 10 tons.

1. Ion can manipulate matter and energy too..

2. Lantern have a very high mental defence..

3. Yat is a daxamites..that's near Supes level of durability..and on top of that..he got GL shield..Prime HV that can burn through Supes didn't even put a scratch on him..

4. 10 ton..that's it??what so impressive about that??

He can lift a lot more than 10 tons, a lot.

Originally posted by Slaanesh
1. Ion can manipulate matter and energy too..

2. Lantern have a very high mental defence..

3. Yat is a daxamites..that's near Supes level of durability..and on top of that..he got GL shield..Prime HV that can burn through Supes didn't even put a scratch on him..

4. 10 ton..that's it??what so impressive about that??

1. Nate turns his costume and the air around him into lead.

2. Mental defenses are one thing, this is a guy who forced Xavier out of the Astral Plane. Hector Hammond has given GL's trouble.

3. Nate Can phase thorugh matter and yank his heart out, he can telekinetically redirect the flow of blood to his brain.

4. He has a Phoenix level of power.

BTW - What X-Man will look like, when Dark X-Men mini gets released (art by Leonard Kirk)

Originally posted by DarthZoom
1. Nate turns his costume and the air around him into lead.

2. Mental defenses are one thing, this is a guy who forced Xavier out of the Astral Plane. Hector Hammond has given GL's trouble.

3. Nate Can phase thorugh matter and yank his heart out, he can telekinetically redirect the flow of blood to his brain.

4. He has a Phoenix level of power.

Heaven's Ladder is more impressive than most of that, plus he has resisted part of the Anti Life Equation, IIRC.

Nate Grey was also able to create solid psionic constructs...

Originally posted by DarthZoom
And from the Marvel database as well.

Doesn't really make a difference one way or another.