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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Stupidity and ignorance at it's finest. 👆

Lulz at Superman a million times stronger than Thor. When have you ever proven that? When have you ever proven anything? Link to the topic where you supposedly proved it? Smh.....

I know the instance you are referring to. I've already addressed this plenty of times. If you had actually read the comic you would have known that Thor said high caliber bullets leave nothing but welts on "Asgardian" skin/flesh. He never said his own and as we know "Thor > Regular Asgardian'". If you had also read the issue you would have known that those high caliber bullets did no damage to Thor whatsoever and he went on to survive a missile at point blank range unharmed in that same instance etc.

Feats prove who's stronger on this forum. There is no other way to prove it since these characters don't really exist. That is why nearly everyone believes Superman is stronger.

Now for the durability part. By you being a fan of Thor I'm pretty sure you know that Thor hasn't always been bulletproof. His durability to bullets throughout his career has been inconsistent.
He has been cut by mere blades and injured with mere bullets before. Superman on the other hand has never had this problem. Bullets been bouncing off him at full speed since his creation.

Energy projection durability has always been Thor's forte though.
He is the god of thunder and thus can channel energy through his very being. Even his hammer absorbs energy. So energy projection durability of Thor's may be equal or greater than that of Superman's, but certainly this is not true for physical blunt force durability.

Another reason it is very believable that Superman is stronger than Thor is through average showings of strength. Superman busts through shields and force fields (like GL shields) like nothing. I have a hard time believing Thor can do stuff like this without his hammer. As a matter of fact I have a hard time picturing Thor doing anything remotely uber without the possession of his hammer. Trust me, that hammer is giving him more power and durability somehow.

Originally posted by h1a8
Trust me, that hammer is giving him more power and durability somehow.

Originally posted by h1a8
Feats prove who's stronger on this forum. There is no other way to prove it since these characters don't really exist. That is why nearly everyone believes Superman is stronger.

Now for the durability part. By you being a fan of Thor I'm pretty sure you know that Thor hasn't always been bulletproof. His durability to bullets throughout his career has been inconsistent.
He has been cut by mere blades and injured with mere bullets before. Superman on the other hand has never had this problem. Bullets been bouncing off him at full speed since his creation.

Energy projection durability has always been Thor's forte though.
He is the god of thunder and thus can channel energy through his very being. Even his hammer absorbs energy. So energy projection durability of Thor's may be equal or greater than that of Superman's, but certainly this is not true for physical blunt force durability.

Another reason it is very believable that Superman is stronger than Thor is through average showings of strength. Superman busts through shields and force fields (like GL shields) like nothing. I have a hard time believing Thor can do stuff like this without his hammer. As a matter of fact I have a hard time picturing Thor doing anything remotely uber without the possession of his hammer. Trust me, that hammer is giving him more power and durability somehow.

Originally posted by h1a8
Feats prove who's stronger on this forum. There is no other way to prove it since these characters don't really exist. That is why nearly everyone believes Superman is stronger.

Now for the durability part. By you being a fan of Thor I'm pretty sure you know that Thor hasn't always been bulletproof. His durability to bullets throughout his career has been inconsistent.
He has been cut by mere blades and injured with mere bullets before. Superman on the other hand has never had this problem. Bullets been bouncing off him at full speed since his creation.

Energy projection durability has always been Thor's forte though.
He is the god of thunder and thus can channel energy through his very being. Even his hammer absorbs energy. So energy projection durability of Thor's may be equal or greater than that of Superman's, but certainly this is not true for physical blunt force durability.

Another reason it is very believable that Superman is stronger than Thor is through average showings of strength. Superman busts through shields and force fields (like GL shields) like nothing. I have a hard time believing Thor can do stuff like this without his hammer. As a matter of fact I have a hard time picturing Thor doing anything remotely uber without the possession of his hammer. Trust me, that hammer is giving him more power and durability somehow.

Originally posted by h1a8 Feats prove who's stronger on this forum. There is no other way to prove it since these characters don't really exist. That is why nearly everyone believes Superman is stronger.

Of course we use feats to prove who’s stronger. That’s why I’ve come to the conclusion that Thor and Superman are equals in that category. Thor has strength feats to match everyone of Superman’s.

Originally posted by h1a8 Now for the durability part. By you being a fan of Thor I'm pretty sure you know that Thor hasn't always been bulletproof. His durability to bullets throughout his career has been inconsistent.

He has been cut by mere blades and injured with mere bullets before. Superman on the other hand has never had this problem. Bullets been bouncing off him at full speed since his creation.

Inconsistent? Harmed by bullets and blades? Dude, when has Thor even been harmed by conventional weapons? I mean ever. The only time his been cut by a blade etc. was when he was severely weakened to the point he was basically human, and even then, a superhuman opponent who slashed him directly, only left a shallow gash that you can’t even tell without zooming in. In another instance, when he was weakened, a blade didn’t even cut him.

The only time his ever been harmed by a bullet was in the 90’s Black Panther series. A bullet from a Sniper penetrated his skin but could not penetrate his skull. Apparently the impact knocked him out. The impact of a freaking bullet knocked out Thor. And in that same issue, they had, Zuri, a Wakandian warrior without any superhuman abilities at all, go toe to toe with Thor for a period of time. Thor and the human warrior were apparently beating the shit out of each other in some epic battle. That issue was utter stupidity.

Originally posted by h1a8 Energy projection durability has always been Thor's forte though.
He is the god of thunder and thus can channel energy through his very being. Even his hammer absorbs energy. So energy projection durability of Thor's may be equal or greater than that of Superman's, but certainly this is not true for physical blunt force durability.

Thor’s resistance to all forms of attacks, whether energy attacks, or blunt force attacks. In terms of damage soak etc. the edge goes to Thor. Even cosmic entities have trouble actually putting him down for the count. He just keeps coming.

Originally posted by h1a8 Another reason it is very believable that Superman is stronger than Thor is through average showings of strength. Superman busts through shields and force fields (like GL shields) like nothing. I have a hard time believing Thor can do stuff like this without his hammer. As a matter of fact I have a hard time picturing Thor doing anything remotely uber without the possession of his hammer. Trust me, that hammer is giving him more power and durability somehow.

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You do know that all of Thor’s greatest strength feats don’t involve Mjolnir? Of course you don’t. You don’t read any Thor I’m willing to beat.

Mjolnir does not amp Thor up physically in anyway. To say it does is just stupid.

Originally posted by h1a8
At least twice

based on what?

Originally posted by Blanket
*has never read a comic involving Thor*

I currently own more than 10 Thor comics (the paper versions) and have read more than 20 all together. I'm nowhere near a Thor guru but I'm certainly not totally ignorant to him either.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Of course we use feats to prove who’s stronger. That’s why I’ve come to the conclusion that Thor and Superman are equals in that category. Thor has strength feats to match everyone of Superman’s.

Inconsistent? Harmed by bullets and blades? Dude, when has Thor even been harmed by conventional weapons? I mean ever. The only time his been cut by a blade etc. was when he was severely weakened to the point he was basically human, and even then, a superhuman opponent who slashed him directly, only left a shallow gash that you can’t even tell without zooming in. In another instance, when he was weakened, a blade didn’t even cut him.

The only time his ever been harmed by a bullet was in the 90’s Black Panther series. A bullet from a Sniper penetrated his skin but could not penetrate his skull. Apparently the impact knocked him out. The impact of a freaking bullet knocked out Thor. And in that same issue, they had, Zuri, a Wakandian warrior without any superhuman abilities at all, go toe to toe with Thor for a period of time. Thor and the human warrior were apparently beating the shit out of each other in some epic battle. That issue was utter stupidity.

Thor’s resistance to all forms of attacks, whether energy attacks, or blunt force attacks. In terms of damage soak etc. the edge goes to Thor. Even cosmic entities have trouble actually putting him down for the count. He just keeps coming.

facepalm

You do know that all of Thor’s greatest strength feats don’t involve Mjolnir? Of course you don’t. You don’t read any Thor I’m willing to beat.

Mjolnir does not amp Thor up physically in anyway. To say it does is just stupid.

Originally posted by -Pr-
based on what?

But based on comparing their best feats Superman is more than a million times stronger.

Originally posted by h1a8
Based on average showings. Superman can split moons with his punches and casually bust through highly durable shields and force fields yet Thor will remain trapped in force fields or blocks without having Mjolnir. Thor also can't do much to a mountain with his punches. He needs mjolnir.

But based on comparing their best feats Superman is more than a million times stronger.

that's not true at all. i haven't even read all the thor stuff, but i know enough to know that he's in superman's weight class.

Originally posted by h1a8
Feats prove who's stronger on this forum. There is no other way to prove it since these characters don't really exist. That is why nearly everyone believes Superman is stronger.

Now for the durability part. By you being a fan of Thor I'm pretty sure you know that Thor hasn't always been bulletproof. His durability to bullets throughout his career has been inconsistent.
He has been cut by mere blades and injured with mere bullets before. Superman on the other hand has never had this problem. Bullets been bouncing off him at full speed since his creation.

Energy projection durability has always been Thor's forte though.
He is the god of thunder and thus can channel energy through his very being. Even his hammer absorbs energy. So energy projection durability of Thor's may be equal or greater than that of Superman's, but certainly this is not true for physical blunt force durability.

Another reason it is very believable that Superman is stronger than Thor is through average showings of strength. Superman busts through shields and force fields (like GL shields) like nothing. I have a hard time believing Thor can do stuff like this without his hammer. As a matter of fact I have a hard time picturing Thor doing anything remotely uber without the possession of his hammer. Trust me, that hammer is giving him more power and durability somehow.

Your opening up a can of worms again friend.

Are you telling me since thanos dont have as many strength feats that hes weaker then superman? Or lifting feats that is. I think supes is physicaly stronger then thor. By a slight margin that is. But your claim that hes many times stronger is rediculous. Post as many lifting feats as you want on theses boards. I dont by it. We have went through this before about supes and no one agrees with ya.

Strength only

Superman 120
Silver Surfer (can amp) 90-115 (or maybe higher depends on the amp)
Wonder Woman 95
Sentry 90-110 (for all his hyping we have yet to see something to prove it)
Orion 120
Martian Manhunter 90-110 (depends on the comic - if Superman is also in it they tend to downplay MM)
Beta Ray Bill 110
Mongul (without rings) 95
Shaggy Man 115 (not taking into account his HF)
Thor 112
Hulk 80-???
Gladiator 100-110

But the thing is that for many of those characters an upper limit has never been mentioned, or is retconed very often.

So my list is based purely on average showings.
Also the numbers mean nothing really , just show who is stronger than who.

I'll do the whole physical category later

This thread just got real funny 😄 mostly due to a single poster...

i thought u guys were referring to the REAL Captain Marvel....u know Mar-Vell!

*SIDENOTE* Thor and Supes are equals in strength, its where their other abilities come in that u see the difference

Originally posted by Lord Feron
This thread just got real funny 😄 mostly due to a single poster...

Referring to me?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
This is difficult, as none of these character's have say a set limit, and so on.

Strength:

Superman - 100 (In general.)/ 105 (Not holding back. He does have superior feats as well, which doesn't necessarily count for much as they are shown to be equals, but I think that deserves taking into account.)
Silver Surfer (can amp) - 100 (Higher if we use his ability to amp/absorb energy at the highest level we've seen.)
Wonder Woman - 95
Sentry - 97 (On a good day. Less or even higher depending on emotional state.)
Orion - 100 (In general.)/105 (Not holding back and in berserker state.)
Martian Manhunter - 97
Beta Ray Bill - 100
Mongul (without rings) - 85
Shaggy Man - Depends on incarnation.
Thor - 100 (In General.)/106 (When not holding back. Dude has arguably the largest strength reserve out there outside of amping.)
Hulk - At base he is way down the list, but he can amp in strength. Hard to gauge.
Gladiator - 100 (On a confident day. Lower or higher depending on how confident he is. At his peak he has shown some incredible strength)

i like this rating the best, all these characters are shown to be pretty equal to eachother.

what do you guys rate thanos, darkseid, and lets say despero

Originally posted by h1a8 No he doesn't. Nothing Thor has done can match Superman's best. But average showings should hold more weight right?

Are you really this ignorant? Holy shit. You went from ignorant too stupid to borderline retarded in three posts. Congrats. That shit’s got to be a new record or something.

Thor’s strength feats cannot match Superman’s? Thor’s lifted the Midgard Serpent, shrugged of the weight of half the world, and withstood the weight of a score of planets. While weakened overpowered the freaking Yggdrasil and moved the World Engine itself. How the hell can Thor not match Superman’s strength feats?

Originally posted by h1a8 Can Thor casually bust through highly durable shields with his fist (not hammer) or destroy mountains and moons with his punches. Hell no!

facepalm

Are you serious? Beta Ray Bill can casually shatter moons, and one shot planets. Thor’s easily punched with enough force to wreck worlds apparently. He can’t hit with enough force to destroy mountains or moons? Ignorance at its finest.

Originally posted by h1a8 One time he was frozen trapped by ice (I think) and needed mjolnir to bust him out. WTF? Superman never had that problem. Stop being bias dude and read more Superman. Thor being weaker in the strength department doesn't mean he can't beat Superman in a fight. Who would win is all that matters. right?

You think? Show me a scan or reference me an issue of the instance you think it happened in, because frankly what you think isn’t worth anything to me.

Never had what problem? Frozen? I recall that happening against a group of child New Gods, albeit it was more than just freezing and he eventually broke out as I recall.

I’m biased? Fool, you’re the one who said Superman is a million times stronger than Thor. I don’t even know why I’m debating with you. You clearly don’t know shit.

Originally posted by h1a8
The fact that this never happened to Superman proves that he is and always been more durable than Thor. I mean if a bullet hits a target and fall to the ground vs. hit another target and ricochet off at full speed then it is common sense that the latter target is more durable.

First of all, stupid logic. Second of all, do I have to post scans of high caliber bullets and so on ricocheting off Thor?

Originally posted by h1a8 Yes he is resistant to all forms of attack but so is Hulk and thousands of other characters. So what? The fact is he is very resistant against energy projection and no so much against blunt force trauma vs. the likes of Superman.

The bullet argument proves it.

Are you stupid? Thor resistance to blunt force trauma is ridiculous. Easily on Superman’s level.

What does the bullet argument prove? The only thing it proves is that the writer is completely ignorant of Thor, and thinks his about as durable and as strong as Captain America.

Oh noes! Look:

Superman was one shotted by someone who Wonder Woman can go toe to toe with. Clearly “THOR > SUPERMAN!!!!!”

Originally posted by h1a8 You would lose that bet. I definitely own Thor comics (not very many though). Thor always had mjolnir in his possession in his greatest strength feats. This is a fact.

sly

All of his greatest feats of strength involve using his own two hands. Mjolnir is either on his belt, or it’s held in his hand in the instances. A hammer doesn’t help you when you’re lifting an amount of weight, it doesn’t help you when you’re pushing/pulling an amount of weight.

Why does it even matter if Mjolnir is on his side? It doesn’t increase his strength or physical attributes in any way. Thor said best it here:

Mjolnir is just a tool.

Originally posted by h1a8 Sure thing. Then why is he weak as hell when it is knocked out of his hand or he doesn't have it period?

facepalm

What are you talking about? When is Thor as weak as hell without Mjolnir in hand? What are you even basing this garbage on? Shit, your delusional.

Common buddy, we don't need to use Konvikt.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor’s easily punched with enough force to wreck worlds apparently.

Why do people argue with that clown? He was doing okay for a bit but then... poof back to "I've already proved Superman is 1 million times stronger then Thor" hahaha