Wonder Woman Vs Thor -Who is stronger?

Originally posted by quanchi112
CM has been described while in combat as his equal in strength.

Supes holds back big time. Almost any high class 100 being would seem to be Supes peer in strength since Supes don't know how much they can take. Supes admitted he could have half killed BA with one punch had he not caught it.

It's how they match up to each other. Feats don't decide this nor have they ever.

Originally posted by chomperx9
are WWs twins just as durable as the rest of her body ?

Now you should have started a thread with that!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by quanchi112
I agree. She's a b plus girl. She needs her extra credit for an a.
BA ripped Amazo's head off. LOL.

WW fled the scene so it wasn't a draw and Supes was mind controlled. The point has always been she can't take his best punches.

Thor ifghts the Hulk whose strength increases as his rage does along with his healing abilities and he's never beaten Thor yet. Thor has fought him pretty evenly without his hammer. He looked worse afterwards because he doesn't have the Hulk's healing factor.

Hulk the strongest character in all of ciomics Thor can hang with. WW couldn't imo as she can't hang with Superman who can't just amp his strength.

i disagree. If Supes and Thor are A students, she is a B++ with occasional A's. Or is she a double D? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?!?!??!!?! I wonder?!?!?!?!

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Pulling someone out of a black hole isn't really that impressive. The Surfer fought INSIDE a black hole and didn't seem all that bothered by it, and Thor has been proven to be physically stronger or at the very least equal in strength the Surfer.

Im pretty sure SS can manipulate the energy of the black hole (can negate the gravity and such). So it is more attributed to his energy manipulating powers vs. his sheer strength. Any scans of this?

Many who say WW is stronger is comparing Thor as equals to Superman. Superman is stronger than both. But since this is unsatisfactory to some. Then we go by strength feats and WW edges out Thor.

Lastly, one cannot use feats against beings who strength is variable as a measuring stick to measure the strength of others. So any feats against Hulk, Gladiator, SS, etc. are void. This is because it is not known to what strength level those character were operating at, at a particular moment in time.

Originally posted by tideoftime
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He is stronger than her. No question. But not *that* much stronger.

I think that sums it up...close the thread 🙄

Originally posted by Zeuodin
I was posting who fought who for the sake of quanchi. next time watch. When I was posting feats, he said they had no relevance.

Posting something irrelevant when someone makes claims on the relevance of your previous posts does not help your argument any. You should just stick to the topic at hand and fight for the relevance of the points that are actually in line with the debate.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Im not hiding any thing. She one shot Fluxes. It wasn't until later on after they were fighting trionix and the others that fluxus was able to recover. You are saying i'm hiding something? you are the hider. you don't post shit. You are saying Thor is stronger. Prove it. post a feat or stop tying. you are wasting band width.

Quan's query was whether or not Flux was actually one shotted (w/c you stated he was) and who the heck Fluxes is to make this feat as impressive as KOing the Abomination in one hit. You didn't answer his question directly so he naturally (tho I'm sure -unfairly-) assumed that you were dodging his question.

Also, you BOTH should start posting feats about strength.

Top of my head, Thor pulled the Midgard serpent, broke thru Uru and has grappled with the likes of Hercules, Gladiator and the Hulk in strength matches.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Im not hiding any thing. She one shot Fluxes. It wasn't until later on after they were fighting trionix and the others that fluxus was able to recover. You are saying i'm hiding something? you are the hider. you don't post shit. You are saying Thor is stronger. Prove it. post a feat or stop tying. you are wasting band width.

What issue did this take place in?

Originally posted by tideoftime
I never said he wasn't. I agreed completely that Thor is stronger than Diana, just not to a degree many fanbois believe. To clarify: if someone had asked this question, say, 30 years ago, when DC's official policy was to take cues from the TV series, for marketing purposes, and WW's feats of strength were greatly reduced compared to previous incarnations, then I would have said "Oh, he is *vastly* stronger -- she's not that much stronger than Spiderman, for the most part...".

But that isn't the case nowadays.

He is stronger than her. No question. But not *that* much stronger.

And as this thread (and others) drifted into the range of *combat* as opposed to "who can out-armwrestle who", I went with the flow...

Besides, why would I post anything? I have very little scanned, and Zeuodin is doing a pretty good job finding pics, anyway...

Less sweat off my balls...

thor

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Posting something irrelevant when someone makes claims on the relevance of your previous posts does not help your argument any. You should just stick to the topic at hand and fight for the relevance of the points that are actually in line with the debate.

Quan's query was whether or not Flux was actually one shotted (w/c you stated he was) and who the heck Fluxes is to make this feat as impressive as KOing the Abomination in one hit. You didn't answer his question directly so he naturally (tho I'm sure -unfairly-) assumed that you were dodging his question.

Also, you BOTH should start posting feats about strength.

Top of my head, Thor pulled the Midgard serpent, broke thru Uru and has grappled with the likes of Hercules, Gladiator and the Hulk in strength matches.

Originally posted by h1a8
Im pretty sure SS can manipulate the energy of the black hole (can negate the gravity and such). So it is more attributed to his energy manipulating powers vs. his sheer strength. Any scans of this?

Hmmmmm. Are you saying that feats of characters with versatile powers should be taken into consideration when judging feats making the quantification of said feats impossible and thus making the feat inadmissible?? If so then: Wow! You FINALLY GET IT!!

I can't understand why you would be able to easily grasp that concept for this debate while COMPLETELY being unable to understand it in another.

As for scans:
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/9323/galactusthedevourer217yj3.jpg

If you go by your debating style, it only mentioned that he shielded himself from the damage done by the Black Hole, being able to move around within it is a different story. Tho, I WILL accept that this is inadmissible as a SS strength feat when you finally admit to the inadmissibility of the Superman planet pulling feat.

Lastly, you misunderstand my point. Zeuodin mentioned that being able to pull someone out of a black hole as being an extremely impressive feat. I merely disagreed about how impressive it was.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Hmmmmm. Are you saying that feats of characters with versatile powers should be taken into consideration when judging feats making the quantification of said feats impossible and thus making the feat inadmissible?? If so then: Wow! You FINALLY GET IT!!

I can't understand why you would be able to easily grasp that concept for this debate while COMPLETELY being unable to understand it in another.

As for scans:
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/9323/galactusthedevourer217yj3.jpg

If you go by your debating style, it only mentioned that he shielded himself from the damage done by the Black Hole, being able to move around within it is a different story. Tho, I WILL accept that this is inadmissible as a SS strength feat when you finally admit to the inadmissibility of the Superman planet pulling feat.

Lastly, you misunderstand my point. Zeuodin mentioned that being able to pull someone out of a black hole as being an extremely impressive feat. I merely disagreed about how impressive it was.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
And why isn't it impressive? The amount of gravitational pull is millions of times more powerful than a star. She didn't use anything but strength. So again why is it not impressive?

Because IF black holes ARE as impressive in comics as they are in real life, then the Surfer would be the most powerful high herald in comics as he casually farts black holes all over the place.

Joking aside, I'd like to see this feat (I can't find a scan of it) to determine context. IF the lasso was involved then this scan might even become disqualified as a purely strength feat.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210

Joking aside, I'd like to see this feat (I can't find a scan of it) to determine context. IF the lasso was involved then this scan might even become disqualified as a purely strength feat.

btw she dint pull him out she just hold him in place with the laso till Supe came

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Because IF black holes ARE as impressive in comics as they are in real life, then the Surfer would be the most powerful high herald in comics as he casually farts black holes all over the place.

Joking aside, I'd like to see this feat (I can't find a scan of it) to determine context. IF the lasso was involved then this scan might even become disqualified as a purely strength feat.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
yup im 99.999999999% sure the lasso WAS involved 😄 (and she wuz way outside teh event horizon or w/e)

btw she dint pull him out she just hold him in place with the laso till Supe came

Originally posted by Zeuodin
All Wrong. He was being pulled in as he had been caught in the gravity of it. She lassoed him and pulled him out. Doesn't matter where she was, it matters where MM was. He was in the gravity well and she pulled him out with strength alone. We know it wasn't flight power because MM couldn't fly out. Superman was getting his ass handed to Him by Oblivion. So what do you mean until Supe came?

apparently, the lasso magically negates resultant forces, hence the gravitational pull of the blackhole is magically canceled out and wonderwoman was only pulling mm's weight in space which is like lifting paper.

😛

Originally posted by Zeuodin
What the heck doed the lasso have to do with anything? She's pulling on it. I guess Thor pulling the Midgard Serpent doesn't count since he used a rope? Oh and Black holes are impressive. It's one of the very basics of Herald Status. Silver Surfer is Impressive and he is the most powerful Herald.

lasso=magical

rope=just strong rope duh!

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
apparently, the lasso magically negates resultant forces, hence the gravitational pull of the blackhole is magically canceled out and wonderwoman was only pulling mm's weight in space which is like lifting paper.

😛

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Of Top of my head, Wonder woman pulled martian Manhunter out of a black hole, Held up half of the Spectre, easily held up an earth killer asteroid in mid fall, and held the heaven's chariot while on heavily fire. She also Fought konvict one on one armored form, beat herculese, and Black mary.