Wonder Woman Vs Thor -Who is stronger?

Originally posted by Zeuodin
There you go with opinions again. You are saying feats don't decide matches and then in the same breath say her feats cut the mustard with the others. So you are basically saying their feats count because you like them but hers doesn't because you don't like her. aweful debating. you pwned your self.

Originally posted by quanchi112
CM has been described while in combat as his equal in strength. I think Supes is stronger than Orion but by the slimmest of margins. I feel Orion is a peer to Supes while WW is not.

It's how they match up to each other. Feats don't decide this nor have they ever.

That's an impressive feat that doesn't cut the mustard with regards to Superman, Thor, the Hulk, Marvel, and Orion.

I beieve she is a peer but not an equal. In a classroom full of kids, they are all peers. But only a few are straight A students.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
I just posted a scan of wonder woman pulling martian Manhunter out of a black hole. What do you mean her showings aren't up there? You are owned.

Pulling someone out of a black hole isn't really that impressive. The Surfer fought INSIDE a black hole and didn't seem all that bothered by it, and Thor has been proven to be physically stronger or at the very least equal in strength the Surfer.

are WWs twins just as durable as the rest of her body ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am saying feats are awesome, but it doesn't prove that Thor is stronger than the Hulk if the both haven't attempted the same feats. The bottom line is how these characters match up strength wise as opposed to tectonic plates and midgard serpent lifting.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I beieve she is a peer but not an equal. In a classroom full of kids, they are all peers. But only a few are straight A students.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Wonder Woman has Fought Konvict one on one to a stalemate until she knocked the wind out of him. She has fought Amazo to a draw. She has fought Superman Doomsday merger to a draw. She has fought CM to a draw. Amazo>>>>>>Thor and Superman. Konvict was at least equal to Superman before he armored up. And Superman/Doomsday merger was>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>superman and Thor.

WW fled the scene so it wasn't a draw and Supes was mind controlled. The point has always been she can't take his best punches.

Thor ifghts the Hulk whose strength increases as his rage does along with his healing abilities and he's never beaten Thor yet. Thor has fought him pretty evenly without his hammer. He looked worse afterwards because he doesn't have the Hulk's healing factor.

Hulk the strongest character in all of ciomics Thor can hang with. WW couldn't imo as she can't hang with Superman who can't just amp his strength.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Wonder Woman has Fought Konvict one on one to a stalemate until she knocked the wind out of him. She has fought Amazo to a draw. She has fought Superman Doomsday merger to a draw. She has fought CM to a draw. Amazo>>>>>>Thor and Superman. Konvict was at least equal to Superman before he armored up. And Superman/Doomsday merger was>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>superman and Thor.

With this kind of reasoning we can say that Thor fought Destroyer one on one to a stalemate, chased away Galactus. Fought the Surfer and won. Galactus >>>>> Amazo, DD/Superman and Konvikt. Gladiator is at least equal to Superman. And the Destroyer is more powerful than Doomsday, Konvikt OR Superman.

However, we all know that each character with their own title has had top-end opponents and have been able to circumvent impossible odds. That's what comics are about. However, that kind of reasoning is irrelevant for this debate.

We should post top end WW feats and put them against top end Thor feats, check each posted feat for admissibility then determine who has been able to come up with the most impressive feat between the two.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
With this kind of reasoning we can say that Thor fought Destroyer one on one to a stalemate, chased away Galactus. Fought the Surfer and won. Galactus >>>>> Amazo, DD/Superman and Konvikt. Gladiator is at least equal to Superman. And the Destroyer is more powerful than Doomsday, Konvikt OR Superman.

However, we all know that each character with their own title has had top-end opponents and have been able to circumvent impossible odds. That's what comics are about. However, that kind of reasoning is irrelevant for this debate.

We should post top end WW feats and put them against top end Thor feats, check each posted feat for admissibility then determine who has been able to come up with the most impressive feat between the two.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
most of thor's top end feats involve Powers that he does not use regularly or have nothing to do with strength. This is a strength debate. everyone I mentioned that Diana fought was hand to hand and with strength. Thor drove off galactus with the Godforce. He fought surfer using his hammer and other powers. etc. This is a STRENGTH debate.

Originally posted by quanchi112
How about oneshotting Abomination?

Originally posted by Zeuodin
She one shots Fluxus.

What page and what comic? Something tells me this guy is either a) a joke or b)not beaten.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
most of thor's top end feats involve Powers that he does not use regularly or have nothing to do with strength. This is a strength debate. everyone I mentioned that Diana fought was hand to hand and with strength. Thor drove off galactus with the Godforce. He fought surfer using his hammer and other powers. etc. This is a STRENGTH debate.

FYI, you're the one who brought it up with this post:

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Wonder Woman has Fought Konvict one on one to a stalemate until she knocked the wind out of him. She has fought Amazo to a draw. She has fought Superman Doomsday merger to a draw. She has fought CM to a draw. Amazo>>>>>>Thor and Superman. Konvict was at least equal to Superman before he armored up. And Superman/Doomsday merger was>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>superman and Thor.

I'm just saying that this kind of reasoning is irrelevant to this debate, you're just using double standards to allow the very debating style you are now dismissing when used on you.

Post strength feats and let's avoid the whole "he/she fought X" arguments shall we?

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
FYI, you're the one who brought it up with this post:

I'm just saying that this kind of reasoning is irrelevant to this debate, you're just using double standards to allow the very debating style you are now dismissing when used on you.

Post strength feats and let's avoid the whole "he/she fought X" arguments shall we?

Strength feats really won't decide the matter as most of these situations are only exclusive to each character. They'd both have to attempt it to prove the other couldn't do it.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
FYI, you're the one who brought it up with this post:

I'm just saying that this kind of reasoning is irrelevant to this debate, you're just using double standards to allow the very debating style you are now dismissing when used on you.

Post strength feats and let's avoid the whole "he/she fought X" arguments shall we?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Who?

What page and what comic? Something tells me this guy is either a) a joke or b)not beaten.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Zeuodin's double standards are plain to see. If WW uses skills and her other abilities it counts but if Thor does it doesn't count.

Now, there is a small degree of truth to that; I often have to defend Thor to other people because although he is not a *skilled* fighter in the finesse sense, he is more than just "swing hammer-slam". His divine nature does allow him to keep combat pace with those that he might otherwise might not be fast enough to otherwise match, and he can use Mjolner defensively.

It's disappointing, still, that that is the first statement you've made that has anything like a clear perspective to it (and it is still colored, as Zeuodin has made it clear on multiple threads tonight that he is making some "disregarding" statements in re: Thor (or character "X"😉 just to show how *other* people don't like it when they make dismissive statements about "x" character, when such statements are unwarrented).

But in anycase...

Originally posted by Zeuodin
I posted a scan of my example and you want to question me? You didn't even post shit.

Originally posted by tideoftime
Now, there is a small degree of truth to that; I often have to defend Thor to other people because although he is not a *skilled* fighter in the finesse sense, he is more than just "swing hammer-slam". His divine nature does allow him to keep combat pace with those that he might otherwise might not be fast enough to otherwise match, and he can use Mjolner defensively.

It's disappointing, still, that that is the first statement you've made that has anything like a clear perspective to it (and it is still colored, as Zeuodin has made it clear on multiple threads tonight that he is making some "disregarding" statements in re: Thor (or character "X"😉 just to show how *other* people don't like it when they make dismissive statements about "x" character, when such statements are unwarrented).

But in anycase...

Originally posted by quanchi112
I'll give my issue number if you want to question me. I bet you were hiding something hence you didn't answer my question.

Again, I have your opinion. Thor is stronger. If you want to disagree then feel free to do so otherwise I could care less about your continued judgments about my posts.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I'll give my issue number if you want to question me. I bet you were hiding something hence you didn't answer my question.

Again, I have your opinion. Thor is stronger. If you want to disagree then feel free to do so otherwise I could care less about your continued judgments about my posts.

I never said he wasn't. I agreed completely that Thor is stronger than Diana, just not to a degree many fanbois believe. To clarify: if someone had asked this question, say, 30 years ago, when DC's official policy was to take cues from the TV series, for marketing purposes, and WW's feats of strength were greatly reduced compared to previous incarnations, then I would have said "Oh, he is *vastly* stronger -- she's not that much stronger than Spiderman, for the most part...".

But that isn't the case nowadays.

He is stronger than her. No question. But not *that* much stronger.

And as this thread (and others) drifted into the range of *combat* as opposed to "who can out-armwrestle who", I went with the flow...

Besides, why would I post anything? I have very little scanned, and Zeuodin is doing a pretty good job finding pics, anyway...

Less sweat off my balls...

Originally posted by tideoftime
I never said he wasn't. I agreed completely that Thor is stronger than Diana, just not to a degree many fanbois believe. To clarify: if someone had asked this question, say, 30 years ago, when DC's official policy was to take cues from the TV series, for marketing purposes, and WW's feats of strength were greatly reduced compared to previous incarnations, then I would have said "Oh, he is *vastly* stronger -- she's not that much stronger than Spiderman, for the most part...".

But that isn't the case nowadays.

He is stronger than her. No question. But not *that* much stronger.

And as this thread (and others) drifted into the range of *combat* as opposed to "who can out-armwrestle who", I went with the flow...

Besides, why would I post anything? I have very little scanned, and Zeuodin is doing a pretty good job finding pics, anyway...

Less sweat off my balls...

agree 100%