Wonder Woman Vs Thor -Who is stronger?

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Originally posted by D_Dude1210
I guess there must be some writer rulebook that you wrote that ALL writers are following right? Get it through your head, writers aren't bound by the rules of physics. That's what the term "fiction" comes from. Geez.

Even then, you stating that the Surfer cannot generate more than a Star's mass black hole due to his limit to absorb one TYPE of energy (that you've been unable to prove) is PURE conjecture as you've never really proven that both are directly are proportional to each other.

Also, what one is able to absorb at one time does not in ANY way limit what one can STORE. Superman doesn't absorb all the solar energies he uses all at one instance. He takes it in slowly and stores it.

Seriously, do you really just come here to troll or do you even believe all this crap you type?

People here need to get their definition of trolling straight. A person who trolls is saying things that they know aren't true. If a person honestly believes in something (a valid opinion) then how could it be trolling? I not only gave my so called outrageous claims but I gave the reasons behind them. And I honestly believe I'm right. Trust me, I'm a very humble person, more humble than anyone of this forum. Some of the best posters (Darthgoober, etc.) have convinced me and made me sway in the other direction. I have changed my opinions here many times and have admitted to it. I'm only stubborn when someone isn't providing me a good argument that convinces me of my so called delusions. I seem to have to wait for the best posters all the time huh.


You are so wrong, it's not even funny. I guess you don't read SS do you? He's been able to manipulate magic, the etherial plane AND generate telepathic energies before. Just because his favorite source of energy is ambient universal energies does not in any way limits his ability to draw from other sources.
This is how you debate. If I'm wrong them please explain to me calmly of what happened in comics. Don't get frustrated because I'm making hard to defeat arguments. Trust me if I'm wrong then my argument is defeatable. One just must find the refutation calmly. Only a very few people in this entire world have read every single appearance of a major character.

With that said, I wish I could find that scan. I'll keep looking around. SS may be able to absorb a lot of different energy but I don't think he can absorb more than a certain amount (like a star) otherwise he would be more powerful than Galactus.


No, they're not. :-/ I guess She-Hulk talking to her writers or MJJ warping realities and Superman tugging planets by a rope is bound by this "common sense physics" right? Again, this is FICTION.
Well it is known that Superman has tactile telekinesis. Maybe this played a role through the rope in preserving the planet. Maybe the rope used magic to supply a protective field. I will accept magic and comics in general doing anything except a few things.

The following must be followed in comics or they become void.

1. Moving objects takes at least MA force
2. Energy cannot be created from nothing.
3. A finite being or object cannot be involved in anything infinitely large.

So can gravity be negated in comics? Yes. Can a massive object be preserved in moving it? Yes


It's the respect thread Quasar vs Surfer.

Now where exactly is this CANON Surfer absorption limit you speak of all the time?

I'll try my best to find it. Please be patient. Maybe someone here can help me out if they know what issue it was.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Not this one?

No not that one. The one where Zemo Nemo I think (I don't have a friggin clue who that guy was) froze Thor with a gun and Thor's arm with Mjolnir was hanging out of the block. Thor sent the hammer away and it came back and busted Thor out.

Originally posted by h1a8
No not that one. The one where Zemo Nemo I think (I don't have a friggin clue who that guy was) froze Thor with a gun and Thor's arm with Mjolnir was hanging out of the block. Thor sent the hammer away and it came back and busted Thor out.

Zemo Nemo? Have no idea who that is. Sure it's not Baron Zemo?

It's not the time Thor and the Avengers had all of their molecules frozen? Although he wasn't encased in ice at the time. Just frozen (He was of course faking. Freezing all of his molecules can't stop Thor.) in place.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Show me a low Thor strength feat.

Lawl!

...but I shouldn't that would be mean.

Thor and ice is one of my favorite subjects. Here are the scans H1N1 mentioned.

wait that gladiater wuz gonna hit him with a STEEL sword? 🤨
teh blade would of jus broken if it hit Thor right?

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
wait that gladiater wuz gonna hit him with a STEEL sword? 🤨
teh blade would of jus broken if it hit Thor right?

You mean like how a car, or something metal brakes when it hits Superman??

Yeah, not in comics, or real life.

Originally posted by h1a8
People here need to get their definition of trolling straight. A person who trolls is saying things that they know aren't true. If a person honestly believes in something (a valid opinion) then how could it be trolling? I not only gave my so called outrageous claims but I gave the reasons behind them. And I honestly believe I'm right. Trust me, I'm a very humble person, more humble than anyone of this forum. Some of the best posters (Darthgoober, etc.) have convinced me and made me sway in the other direction. I have changed my opinions here many times and have admitted to it. I'm only stubborn when someone isn't providing me a good argument that convinces me of my so called delusions. I seem to have to wait for the best posters all the time huh.

I have given several reasons why your so-called arguments are incorrect. In fact, I provided 3 good reasons why you are wrong in your assumption of the Surfer being able to generate only a "one solar mass black hole".

Offer a rebuttal and stop dodging the points.

Originally posted by h1a8
This is how you debate. If I'm wrong them please explain to me calmly of what happened in comics. Don't get frustrated because I'm making hard to defeat arguments. Trust me if I'm wrong then my argument is defeatable. One just must find the refutation calmly. Only a very few people in this entire world have read every single appearance of a major character.

My frustration doesn't lie in you providing a solid argument. In fact, it is quite the opposite. My frustration lies in your seeming inability to understand the many fallacies and weaknesses in your argumentation while still maintaining an almost insane belief in your correctness. Most of posts are simply full of assumptions and conjectures with little to no actual proof. And when proven wrong, you completely ignore the posts that prove you wrong and then throw around MORE assumptions and conjecture.

Sometimes I feel that you MUST be trolling because I can't seem to accept that anyone can be so thick and ignorant (I do not wish to toss insults around and this really isn't an attempt to be insulting, it is just the closest way I can express my actual frustrations).

Originally posted by h1a8
With that said, I wish I could find that scan. I'll keep looking around. SS may be able to absorb a lot of different energy but I don't think he can absorb more than a certain amount (like a star) otherwise he would be more powerful than Galactus.

Just because you don't think so, doesn't make it true.

Also, FYI, Galactus is far more powerful than a star. :-/

Originally posted by h1a8
Well it is known that Superman has tactile telekinesis. Maybe this played a role through the rope in preserving the planet. Maybe the rope used magic to supply a protective field. I will accept magic and comics in general doing anything except a few things.

The following must be followed in comics or they become void.

1. Moving objects takes at least MA force
2. Energy cannot be created from nothing.
3. A finite being or object cannot be involved in anything infinitely large.

So can gravity be negated in comics? Yes. Can a massive object be preserved in moving it? Yes

You do NOT control what writers should or should not write into their comics.

Also, I believe that you are trying to point out the law of conservation of matter states that:

Matter (and thus energy) cannot be created or destroyed.

As an example, the Ultimate Nullifier destroys energy utterly. Again, if a writer wants to scoff at certain physics laws, then they can and will. You are not the authority on comic book physics and your enumerating of "acceptable physics laws" is purely just your opinion.

Originally posted by h1a8
I'll try my best to find it. Please be patient. Maybe someone here can help me out if they know what issue it was.

Very well. I'm waiting...

Originally posted by Spire
Lawl!

...but I shouldn't that would be mean.

Thor and ice is one of my favorite subjects. Here are the scans H1N1 mentioned.

Thanks. 👆

Carbon Copy Man. Forgot about that dude. That's the Xartan invasion right?

Journey into the Mystery #90 if anyone wants to read it as I recall.

Weren't they a race that were created by the Celestial experiments. I even recall them turning an entire planet into iron back in a She-Hulk issue.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
You mean like how a car, or something metal brakes when it hits Superman??

Yeah, not in comics, or real life.

wut...

no i ment if the blade hit thor then thor would of NOT been cut

in that panel teh writers implyng thor can be cut by a steel blade 🤨 Thors mure durable then that

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
wait that gladiater wuz gonna hit him with a STEEL sword? 🤨
teh blade would of jus broken if it hit Thor right?

It probably would have killed him.

😄

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
wut...

no i ment if the blade hit thor then thor would of NOT been cut

in that panel teh writers implyng thor can be cut by a steel blade 🤨 Thors mure durable then that


It depends on the force that moving the Sword. The sword will can more mass the faster it move. I believe that's how IMP punch works

Originally posted by Spire
It probably would have killed him.

😄

then its PIS. Thor cant be cut by plain steel. teh blade would of broken

did Busiek write dat story?

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
wut...

no i ment if the blade hit thor then thor would of NOT been cut

in that panel teh writers implyng thor can be cut by a steel blade 🤨 Thors mure durable then that

You mean Stan Lee?

He gave us other panels like that as well.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
It depends on the force that moving the Sword. The sword will can more mass the faster it move. I believe that's how IMP punch works
so woud it cut Superman as well if he was trap in that net? ^^

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
coud it have cut Superman as well if he was trap in that net?

If it was magical.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
coud it have cut Superman as well if he was trap in that net?

If the author wants it to be, then yes

I've never seen Thor get cut by a regular blade. Even in Asgard he takes all of them and not even one of them hurts him. I have a number of scans of blades whether human or Asgardian breaking on Thor.

Loki has been able to cut Thor but that's with him using magical swords he pours all of his power in, or when the Crusader cut Thor up (Which surprised Thor that a mortal weapon can harm him.), but that was when Thor was doubting his powers as I recall. As Odin told him it was a battle of wills and faith etc. and Thor lost. He came back and handled the Crusader's case though.

And it's not as if even Superman doesn't get cut on different occasions.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I've never seen Thor get cut by a regular blade. Even in Asgard he takes all of them and not even one of them hurts him. I have a number of scans of blades whether human or Asgardian breaking on Thor.

Loki has been able to cut Thor but that's with him using magical swords he pours all of his power in, or when the Crusader cut Thor up (Which surprised Thor that a mortal weapon can harm him.), but that was when Thor was doubting his powers as I recall. As Odin told him it was a battle of wills and faith etc. and Thor lost. He came back and handled the Crusader's case though.

And it's not as if even Superman doesn't get cut on different occasions.


There are always small occassions to see people get cut, or pierced. I have never seen Superman get cut without a good reason

Originally posted by Spire
If it was magical.
then dat gladiaters blade wuz prolly magical
Originally posted by xJLxKing
There are always small occassions to see people get cut, or pierced. I have never seen Superman get cut without a good reason
hes been cut by non-magic things more then once

Originally posted by xJLxKing
There are always small occassions to see people get cut, or pierced. I have never seen Superman get cut without a good reason

Equus cut him. Wonder Woman's tiara cut him. I came across an issue where some random alien bug cut him.