Wonder Woman Vs Thor -Who is stronger?

Originally posted by khazra
He's shown to be on the upper foot against the thing as soon as fights begin. He's clearly 100+ as soon as fights begin. Likewise if he wasnt he'd struggle to hurt the likes of herc, thor & glads at the beginning of giths too.
All of the hulk's stats do increase with his rage too actually.
That thor starts at class 85 is some ridiculous internet myth.

I find your love of wonderwoman incredibly overzealous. She is not an elite top tier on the level of thor, superman, majestic etc and she never has been, move on 🙂

Originally posted by khazra
I find your love of wonderwoman incredibly overzealous. She is not an elite top tier on the level of thor, superman, majestic etc and she never has been, move on 🙂

I wouldn't be so confident with your limited knowledge of WW.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
LOL Care to battle zone about it? You can pick thor and I'll pick wonder woman and all I have to do is prove she is nearly as elite as he. in some areas she outclasses him out right. Skill, shields, one shot ability, speed, etc.

one shot ability?

Originally posted by Warlord
one shot ability?

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Her Tiara and Lasso both give her one shot options that Thor simply does not have.

I don't see the tiara being any better than a full power mjolnir throw

Originally posted by Warlord
I don't see the tiara being any better than a full power mjolnir throw

Superman is weak to magic
A mjolnir throw would do as the tiara did without PiS.

as for the gods, mjolnir has killed gods before

Originally posted by Warlord
Superman is weak to magic
A mjolnir throw would do as the tiara did without PiS.

as for the gods, mjolnir has killed gods before

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Not with one Toss it hasn't killed any Gods. And The Hammer is still blunt force Trauma. Superman has stood up to magic blunt force before. Several times. One toss isn't going to be able to KILL him as a tiara Toss would.

Thor decapitated the Destroyer with Mjolnir I don't see why Superman would do better or how the Tiara could do that

Originally posted by Warlord
Thor decapitated the Destroyer with Mjolnir I don't see why Superman would do better or how the Tiara could do that

Whats a battlezone? How much time does it take, ive got essays at uni until the end of term now.

My knowledge of WW is limited to the current volume of WW (which i have all bu tthe most recent issue of), the current run of JLA, her big events showings & respect threads.
And nothing ive seen put on an elite level.

Sure thats not a complete knowledge but its not like i know nothing about her...

Liking a character and thinking a character is powerful is not the same thing, you guys all seem to assume it is & that i have some kind of wonderwoman hate???
To like a character because their powerful is pretty pathetic. For example i much prefer Hercules to Thor though Thor is obiously more powerful.

Hell, 3 of my favorites (thing, Orin, Hawkman) basically get crapped on in the arena even though they have good feats.

Wonderwoman under Simone is great and with the exception of GL/GLC is the longest run on any character i have.

I have no WW hate in me....though i like her far more in her title book than in JLA etc.

However, She's simply not that powerful in my opinion & im sorry were in disagreement but i just dont see her as being up there with the big guys 😖

Originally posted by Warlord
Superman is weak to magic
A mjolnir throw would do as the tiara did without PiS.

as for the gods, mjolnir has killed gods before

Originally posted by Warlord
Thor decapitated the Destroyer with Mjolnir I don't see why Superman would do better or how the Tiara could do that

Edit> maybe he had runes too, cant remeber 😖

Originally posted by khazra
Whats a battlezone? How much time does it take, ive got essays at uni until the end of term now.

My knowledge of WW is limited to the current volume of WW (which i have all bu tthe most recent issue of), the current run of JLA, her big events showings & respect threads.
And nothing ive seen put on an elite level.

Sure thats not a complete knowledge but its not like i know nothing about her...

Liking a character and thinking a character is powerful is not the same thing, you guys all seem to assume it is & that i have some kind of wonderwoman hate???
To like a character because their powerful is pretty pathetic. For example i much prefer Hercules to Thor though Thor is obiously more powerful.

Hell, 3 of my favorites (thing, Orin, Hawkman) basically get crapped on in the arena even though they have good feats.

Wonderwoman under Simone is great and with the exception of GL/GLC is the longest run on any character i have.

I have no WW hate in me....though i like her far more in her title book than in JLA etc.

However, She's simply not that powerful in my opinion & im sorry were in disagreement but i just dont see her as being up there with the big guys 😖

So its basically a 1 on 1 versus thread? Or do we have to imagine how the fight would go?
There might be a lasso toss & a lightening bolt every now and again but thats it apart from a slug fest because thats how they fight even in their solo books. Whats the point in me saying thor hits her & you saying she hits him back?

I said thing could make her work for it in a no equipment brawl. I stand by that. So could piotr. Im not denying she'd win but she wouldnt beat them in seconds or even in a few minutes. Theve both resisted shots from stronger (hulk/Glads/juggernaut etc).

That entire list of beings youve posted arent impressive compared to who the likes of superman or thor have beaten. Thor would have no issues with any of those opponents, at all.

Originally posted by khazra
So its basically a 1 on 1 versus thread? Or do we have to imagine how the fight would go?
There might be a lasso toss & a lightening bolt every now and again but thats it apart from a slug fest because thats how they fight even in their solo books. Whats the point in me saying thor hits her & you saying she hits him back?

I said thing could make her work for it in a no equipment brawl. I stand by that. So could piotr. Im not denying she'd win but she wouldnt beat them in seconds or even in a few minutes. Theve both resisted shots from stronger (hulk/Glads/juggernaut etc).

That entire list of beings youve posted arent impressive compared to who the likes of superman or thor have beaten. Thor would have no issues with any of those opponents, at all.

Originally posted by khazra
Superman is not "weak" to magic. He's merely less invulnerable to it than he is to everything else. Additionally, magic can be resisted on willpower in the DCU so its inherintly less powerful against superman who has some of the best willpower in comics (maybe makes the top 5 in MU/DCU)

That's not entirely accurate. Superman's *resistance* to magic is no better than an ordinary mortal man's; what people forget is that *backing* that resistance is a physiology and inherent power that allows him to continue functioning while being assaulted by "x-magic blast", et al. A direct blast from a typical Green Lantern's ring, a punch by (Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman, Thor, etc), or dropping a mountain on him, does not *hurt* as much as a (proportionally less powerful) "magic blast" from middling sorcerer "x" (yes, fanbois, Harry Potter going "Blowsh!tupus" and waiving his wand can be a quick kick in the *mortal* nuts to Clark). HOWEVER... Superman would likely still be able to function, even after Thor (for example) whacked him with Mjolner, albeit in severe pain, and with an uncharacteristic nasty bruising/possible broken bone resulting... as Supes turns his teary-then-fiery eyes on Thor and scars him in turn with a piercing blast of HV... which after a second Thor then blocks with Mjolner... as each steps away from the other for a brief moment, re-assessing exactly what kinda' hell each can unleash on the other...

(As a sidenote, it's also important to remember that while Superman has survived potent magical assaults in both pre and post Crisis(es) universe(s), it doesn't take much to cause *affects* in him -- while Maxwell Lord could plant suggestions/influences in Clark's mind over years, until he gained control over him, Zatanna could hypnotize Supes with a quick and simple enchantment... and don't you think for a second that that isn't plan #3 in Bruce's list of "How to deal with Clark should the Situation Arise"...)

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Superman and Thor have beaten whom? Without plot powers and devices? Wonder Woman has literally bitched Ares with her lasso. She also defeated hectate who had ultimate power and was more powerful than all the heroes and circe combined. She's snatched the godwave literally out of Chronos's hands while he held it and smashed it. The fight in battle zone would be more of our own stips. The stips would be for me to prove that wonder woman is in the elite class. Not at the top, just in it. You would have to prove that she is no where near it. using thor.

Its not like im particuarly up on my thor knowledge though. I dont care for the character, i gave up on the 5th issue of his solo series. He just seems to be the guy who keeps getting placed against diana over here.
Neither am i a particuarly good debater.
Someone else would be far more effctive in making the argument enjoyable for you both.

That's not entirely accurate. Superman's *resistance* to magic is no better than an ordinary mortal man's; what people forget is that *backing* that resistance is a physiology and inherent power that allows him to continue functioning while being assaulted by "x-magic blast", et al

Originally posted by khazra
Celestials.Atum. Destroyer. Surtur.
The Dc olympians are basically featless. There not equateable to say the marvel asgardians (Odin has galaxy busting feats for example).

Its not like im particuarly up on my thor knowledge though. I dont care for the character, i gave up on the 5th issue of his solo series. He just seems to be the guy who keeps getting placed against diana over here.
Neither am i a particuarly good debater.
Someone else would be far more effctive in making the argument enjoyable for you both.

Thats sort of what i meant, you said it much better though. Hitting supes with magic isnt like hitting a normal man, he still has his inherant stats & willpower to deal with the magics.

Thor>WW in terms of Strength, Durability, Versatility, and overall power.
WW>In terms of Speed, Combat, and a few more that I can't think of