doomsday vs world war hulk

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Originally posted by horrorwolf
World War Hulk Stomps the living HELL out of Doomsday unless you can prove DD is capable of the following:

1. Show where Doomsday (ANY version) has ever been capable of cracking an entire seaboard with FOOTSTEPs. Physical feats such as these place World World Hulk on Strength levels beyond that of any brick in comics.

2. Show where DD is capable of regeneration that is GREATER than than of DEADPOOL....(YES, beyond Wolverine's REGEN). Not only is Hulk's regen extremely potent but it is fast as hell, as illustrated when Banner took a bullet to the skull and Hulk reverted all damage moments later...or when over 90% of Hulk's skin was removed only to be COMPLETELY restored moments later.

3. Show how DD is capable of Strength and Durabilty AMPING on Hulk's level. Hulk rage continuously amps both, and does so for as long as he is enraged.

If you can't prove any of these points...
This fight goes on for a few hours until WWH gets pissed enough to end this and quickly.

Silly you. All I need to show is that DD is capable of hurting Hulk with his blows and also being fast enough to land a blow before Hulk does. This proves as a guaranteed fact that DOS wins everytime.

Simple logic is always the best (and the truth).

he's not stronger than hulk though 😬

Anyone got scans of Gladiator vs Hulk.

edit: Here they are but the quality sux.

Originally posted by Hulk_Power
HULK KICKS THE CRAP OUT OF GLADIATOR LIKE NO ONE ELSE HAS BEFORE 🙂
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I cant read or see whats going on in them clearly.

Originally posted by Starscream M
WWH beats DOS DD

WWH loses to HP DD

Yeh and WWH loses to every version of Doomsday after HP, although Dos Doomsday was extremely fast. It be a good battle, yet i believe hulks strength would be to much, since i believe Doomsday wouldnt know how to utilize this speed to his advantage. He would more likely leave him self open for hits from WWH. Which i believe would put him down.

Doomsday is worthless. Beating up the JLA and being stopped by Superman is like beating up the Avengers and being stopped by Thor.

That's what Hulk's always done. And we're talking WWHulk in this thread.

Besides to Mummy Guy, the kid, troll, or shockingly oblivious guy that doesn't know what he's talking about, it should be obvious that Doomsday is a jobber villain with plot device powers. He shows up, hammers a bunch of people, and gets stopped. WWHulk beat everyone, and couldn't be stopped until he allowed himself to be KO'd by the satellites. And what's good about the satellite thing is that they never said how powerful they were, so the whole argument that the satellites were a low showing is completely baseless. For all we know, the satellites fired Hulk-Repellent-Bat-Beams.

Based on WWHulk's showings, which was either KO'ing, outfighting, outsmarting, or converting all of Marvel Earth, I say he beats the guy that Superman alone was able to hold off and beat. And HP Doomsday is no biggie. Supes may have been trying to brick Doomsday, but Hulk could just get fed up and rip Doomsday's bones out and BFR him into space. It's not like Doomsday is a good fighter. His whole method was to eat shots or wait to evolve a workaround. Doomsday is dumber than Savage Hulk. And I'm gonna say it again; downplaying Doomsday doesn't downplay Superman. Superman had the kid gloves on pretty much the entire DOS fight. When he realized he can't just KO Doomsday, he got serious and f'd him up. He obviously could've done it the whole time. And as for HP Doomsday, WWHulk would outfight his ass around the block.

All this "combo" sh*t that keeps being said is ridiculous. The fight would be much tougher than just going in and "pow-pow, Hulk's dead". For one, Doomsday's not a f*cking boxer, and hasn't been trained by anyone his entire life. He's never even actually put any thought into his fights. He has no strategy, tactics, technique, or even real experience when you consider his fights are as simple as him eating shots and he just keeps swinging. Had he ever tried to adapt his skills, to learn, then the experience wouldn't be wasted. But as it is, Doomsday has never advanced as a fighter, because he takes nothing from his fights. Doomsday, even HP Doomsday, is just a mindless brick with a sub-par plot device power. He's not Superman fast. He's not a good fighter. He's not smart at all. All he has is better durability than Hulk. WWHulk is a master strategist, very skilled fighter, mad HF that heals anything within seconds, can catch speedsters, punch at mach speeds, and he's even stronger than Planet Hulk who had pulled his planet together by hand during a global earthquake. Not to mention the second he has any trouble, not that he would, WWHulk amps into World Breaker and thunderclaps with Doomsday's head in the middle. Then Hulk pitches the headless body into the Sun.

That's really what it boils down to. Anybody fighting WWHulk is going to be getting World Breaker as well. And no Doomsday is man enough to handle that.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
he's not stronger than hulk though 😬

I agree 100%

Originally posted by Master Court
Doomsday is worthless. Beating up the JLA and being stopped by Superman is like beating up the Avengers and being stopped by Thor.

That's what Hulk's always done. And we're talking WWHulk in this thread.

Besides to Mummy Guy, the kid, troll, or shockingly oblivious guy that doesn't know what he's talking about, it should be obvious that Doomsday is a jobber villain with plot device powers. He shows up, hammers a bunch of people, and gets stopped. WWHulk beat everyone, and couldn't be stopped until he allowed himself to be KO'd by the satellites. And what's good about the satellite thing is that they never said how powerful they were, so the whole argument that the satellites were a low showing is completely baseless. For all we know, the satellites fired Hulk-Repellent-Bat-Beams.

Based on WWHulk's showings, which was either KO'ing, outfighting, outsmarting, or converting all of Marvel Earth, I say he beats the guy that Superman alone was able to hold off and beat. And HP Doomsday is no biggie. Supes may have been trying to brick Doomsday, but Hulk could just get fed up and rip Doomsday's bones out and BFR him into space. It's not like Doomsday is a good fighter. His whole method was to eat shots or wait to evolve a workaround. Doomsday is dumber than Savage Hulk. And I'm gonna say it again; downplaying Doomsday doesn't downplay Superman. Superman had the kid gloves on pretty much the entire DOS fight. When he realized he can't just KO Doomsday, he got serious and f'd him up. He obviously could've done it the whole time. And as for HP Doomsday, WWHulk would outfight his ass around the block.

All this "combo" sh*t that keeps being said is ridiculous. The fight would be much tougher than just going in and "pow-pow, Hulk's dead". For one, Doomsday's not a f*cking boxer, and hasn't been trained by anyone his entire life. He's never even actually put any thought into his fights. He has no strategy, tactics, technique, or even real experience when you consider his fights are as simple as him eating shots and he just keeps swinging. Had he ever tried to adapt his skills, to learn, then the experience wouldn't be wasted. But as it is, Doomsday has never advanced as a fighter, because he takes nothing from his fights. Doomsday, even HP Doomsday, is just a mindless brick with a sub-par plot device power. He's not Superman fast. He's not a good fighter. He's not smart at all. All he has is better durability than Hulk. WWHulk is a master strategist, very skilled fighter, mad HF that heals anything within seconds, can catch speedsters, punch at mach speeds, and he's even stronger than Planet Hulk who had pulled his planet together by hand during a global earthquake. Not to mention the second he has any trouble, not that he would, WWHulk amps into World Breaker and thunderclaps with Doomsday's head in the middle. Then Hulk pitches the headless body into the Sun.

That's really what it boils down to. Anybody fighting WWHulk is going to be getting World Breaker as well. And no Doomsday is man enough to handle that.

DD is a very fast relentless attacker. It doesn't matter if he has any fighting skills. The fact remains that DD can attack faster than WWH can respond. He will hit WWH first and continue to combo him in a relentless attack until it is over. WWH being stronger won't help him here. He would never get a chance to throw a blow. It's a shame too. All that power wasted.

h1a8 specificaly what are some of dos dd amazing offensive or any speed feats that make u think that hulk wont be able to react/defend against? Also why do u keep discounting all the times hulk has faught,neutralized, and beaten characters who are much faster than dd?

Everything is in DD's favor. Are you all so full of fanboyism that you believe Hulk will actually win. Thats akin to thinking WWH could actually threaten or beat Superman...get a grip

how is everything in dds favor? wwh is stronger, just as durable, has amazing regen and is smarter and is just as viscious and relentless dd has a speed advantage what else? how is it akin to wwh beating supes their two different characters with different power sets and mentalities? i dont even really like the hulk and i think the other dd versions would beat him but not dos dd. also in dos if supes went all out right from the start and not try to wear him down he would have stopped him much quicker in my opinion.

Originally posted by h1a8
DD is a very fast relentless attacker. It doesn't matter if he has any fighting skills. The fact remains that DD can attack faster than WWH can respond. He will hit WWH first and continue to combo him in a relentless attack until it is over. WWH being stronger won't help him here. He would never get a chance to throw a blow. It's a shame too. All that power wasted.

Didn't PR already address this...

Originally posted by -Pr-
proof that dos dd was faster than rex?

and this matter of factly attitude isn't helping. prove that dos dd was faster than hulk, or stop.

Originally posted by Master Court
Doomsday is worthless. Beating up the JLA and being stopped by Superman is like beating up the Avengers and being stopped by Thor.

That's what Hulk's always done. And we're talking WWHulk in this thread.

Besides to Mummy Guy, the kid, troll, or shockingly oblivious guy that doesn't know what he's talking about, it should be obvious that Doomsday is a jobber villain with plot device powers. He shows up, hammers a bunch of people, and gets stopped. WWHulk beat everyone, and couldn't be stopped until he allowed himself to be KO'd by the satellites. And what's good about the satellite thing is that they never said how powerful they were, so the whole argument that the satellites were a low showing is completely baseless. For all we know, the satellites fired Hulk-Repellent-Bat-Beams.

Based on WWHulk's showings, which was either KO'ing, outfighting, outsmarting, or converting all of Marvel Earth, I say he beats the guy that Superman alone was able to hold off and beat. And HP Doomsday is no biggie. Supes may have been trying to brick Doomsday, but Hulk could just get fed up and rip Doomsday's bones out and BFR him into space. It's not like Doomsday is a good fighter. His whole method was to eat shots or wait to evolve a workaround. Doomsday is dumber than Savage Hulk. And I'm gonna say it again; downplaying Doomsday doesn't downplay Superman. Superman had the kid gloves on pretty much the entire DOS fight. When he realized he can't just KO Doomsday, he got serious and f'd him up. He obviously could've done it the whole time. And as for HP Doomsday, WWHulk would outfight his ass around the block.

All this "combo" sh*t that keeps being said is ridiculous. The fight would be much tougher than just going in and "pow-pow, Hulk's dead". For one, Doomsday's not a f*cking boxer, and hasn't been trained by anyone his entire life. He's never even actually put any thought into his fights. He has no strategy, tactics, technique, or even real experience when you consider his fights are as simple as him eating shots and he just keeps swinging. Had he ever tried to adapt his skills, to learn, then the experience wouldn't be wasted. But as it is, Doomsday has never advanced as a fighter, because he takes nothing from his fights. Doomsday, even HP Doomsday, is just a mindless brick with a sub-par plot device power. He's not Superman fast. He's not a good fighter. He's not smart at all. All he has is better durability than Hulk. WWHulk is a master strategist, very skilled fighter, mad HF that heals anything within seconds, can catch speedsters, punch at mach speeds, and he's even stronger than Planet Hulk who had pulled his planet together by hand during a global earthquake. Not to mention the second he has any trouble, not that he would, WWHulk amps into World Breaker and thunderclaps with Doomsday's head in the middle. Then Hulk pitches the headless body into the Sun.

That's really what it boils down to. Anybody fighting WWHulk is going to be getting World Breaker as well. And no Doomsday is man enough to handle that.

you actually believe all that? seriously?

Originally posted by Raptor22
h1a8 specificaly what are some of dos dd amazing offensive or any speed feats that make u think that hulk wont be able to react/defend against? Also why do u keep discounting all the times hulk has faught,neutralized, and beaten characters who are much faster than dd?

What you say is meaningless.

True or False is DD faster than Hulk?
Ans. TRUE

This is a forum fight and not a comic one. The difference is that in a comic characters sometimes don't use their superspeed but where in a forum fight they will.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Didn't PR already address this...

The fact is the either DD Rex was slower than DOS DD or that the Superman in DD Rex was far faster than DOS Superman. Either way it either makes current Superman looks good or DOS DD looks good. I like both so I don't care which one.

Now it is moot of which DD was faster. The fact of the matter is that it is common sense that DOS DD is far faster than any version of Hulk. Thus he wins period.

Originally posted by h1a8
What you say is meaningless.

True or False is DD faster than Hulk?
Ans. TRUE

This is a forum fight and not a comic one. The difference is that in a comic characters sometimes don't use their superspeed but where in a forum fight they will.

if he didnt do it in dos then it doesnt matter. what part of that dont u understand? if u cant name any specific speed feats then what makes u think he is so fast hulk cant react to him? all im asking is for some proof to back up your opinions that u keep stating as facts.

Originally posted by h1a8
The fact is the either DD Rex was slower than DOS DD or that the Superman in DD Rex was far faster than DOS Superman. Either way it either makes current Superman looks good or DOS DD looks good. I like both so I don't care which one.

Now it is moot of which DD was faster. The fact of the matter is that it is common sense that DOS DD is far faster than any version of Hulk. Thus he wins period.


Of course Supes was faster against Rex, his(Superman's) powers have been increasing steadily since he was revived after his fight with Doomsday. If Supes were anywhere near as fast then as he is now, it wouldn't have taken him and DD anywhere near as long to cross the country to get to Metropolis.

Any proof that DOS DD has enough of a speed advantage against Hulk to pull an actual blitz against him and/or avoid every punch he throws?

Originally posted by h1a8
The fact is the either DD Rex was slower than DOS DD or that the Superman in DD Rex was far faster than DOS Superman. Either way it either makes current Superman looks good or DOS DD looks good. I like both so I don't care which one.

Now it is moot of which DD was faster. The fact of the matter is that it is common sense that DOS DD is far faster than any version of Hulk. Thus he wins period.

good god.

Superman in OWAW, the one that subsequently fought Rex, was FAR faster than the one from DOS. How can you not know that?

it's not moot when you made the claim. DOS DD was fast enough to match that Superman, but he was not nearly as fast as current Doomsday reflex wise.

Originally posted by -Pr-
you actually believe all that? seriously?

😬

If this is your only statement, I can't clarify my points. I know I'm not entirely in opposition to the whole world's opinions, so at least some of it is generally accepted, and I know at least some of it is true. Here are my points, condensed, and you can tell me what you're opposed to.

1. WWHulk is stronger, at least as durable to blunt damage, heals way faster than even Wolverine, punches at mach speeds, reacts fast enough to catch speedsters, and is a well learned fighter and strategist.

2. Doomsday has an extremely linear mind, has no real intelligence other than instinct, has no training - which really becomes vitally necessary when fighting someone with lots of training, experience, and skill, he has no special powerset that gives him any distinct advantage over Hulk, and Doomsday's power level is generally static.

Those are my points. I left out WWHulk's weaknesses because he has none. Darwin the mutant couldn't evolve anything worth a damn simply because WWHulk has no unique disadvantages. And I left out Doomsday's strengths because he is below Hulk is everything except speed and maybe equal in durability. What exactly is so "incorrect" here?

Originally posted by h1a8
DD is a very fast relentless attacker. It doesn't matter if he has any fighting skills. The fact remains that DD can attack faster than WWH can respond. He will hit WWH first and continue to combo him in a relentless attack until it is over. WWH being stronger won't help him here. He would never get a chance to throw a blow. It's a shame too. All that power wasted.

"A very fast, relentless attacker..." And "Skills don't matter" as well. This is the dumbest statement anyone has ever written. You can't f*cking prove one word you've written here. You can talk about Doomsday's speed feats and sh*t all you want, unless you prove Hulk can't handle Doomsday's speed, your entire argument - which was weak anyway - is pointless. "The fact remains"? You haven't proven one f*cking thing! F*cking "fact remains." Show me a scan where Hulk fails to handle someone with Doomsday's speed. Hulk has never failed to hit his enemies. He's always hit them at least once, no matter who they were. But we have seen Doomsday fail to hit Superman, so it's obvious Doomsday is not top-tier in speed. And you know what? Hulk easily handles mid-tier speedsters. He was quick enough to clothesline Quicksilver. All this means it's impossible to prove Hulk wouldn't be able to keep up with Doomsday, if indeed Doomsday is so fast to begin with.

Here's a little list to make this simple. The "+" marks distinct superiority.

Strength - WWHulk (not counting World Breaker)
Speed - Doomsday+
Durability - Tied
Healing Factor - WWHulk
Skill - WWHulk+
Intelligence - WWHulk+

Get it? And Hulk's reaction speed easily negates most of Doomsday's movement speed advantage. It's a simple rule of fighting. Skill > Reflex > Speed > Strength. Hulk trumps Doomsday in skill, reflex negates speed, and strength makes the KO.

Don't buy any of this sh*t? Fine. But you still haven't actually proven anything. Doomsday is fast. Yes. But you haven't proven, in any way, that Doomsday is too fast for Hulk. That Hulk simply wouldn't be able to evade or counter a single blow, and would just get a completely one-sided hammering. Just prove Doomsday's speed really makes one f*cking bit of difference.

dos dd's getting juggernaut'd

Originally posted by Master Court
😬

If this is your only statement, I can't clarify my points. I know I'm not entirely in opposition to the whole world's opinions, so at least some of it is generally accepted, and I know at least some of it is true. Here are my points, condensed, and you can tell me what you're opposed to.

1. WWHulk is stronger, at least as durable to blunt damage, heals way faster than even Wolverine, punches at mach speeds, reacts fast enough to catch speedsters, and is a well learned fighter and strategist.

2. Doomsday has an extremely linear mind, has no real intelligence other than instinct, has no training - which really becomes vitally necessary when fighting someone with lots of training, experience, and skill, he has no special powerset that gives him any distinct advantage over Hulk, and Doomsday's power level is generally static.

Those are my points. I left out WWHulk's weaknesses because he has none. Darwin the mutant couldn't evolve anything worth a damn simply because WWHulk has no unique disadvantages. And I left out Doomsday's strengths because he is below Hulk is everything except speed and maybe equal in durability. What exactly is so "incorrect" here?

i didn't ask you to clarify. i just hoped that you might have been sarcastic.

DOS DD is a plot device but WWH isn't?

your assertion that H/P DD would be so easily defeated. Superman is an incredibly skilled fighter, and he has trouble with Doomsday when they fight. Hulk's skill really isn't that much of a factor when going up against H/P. DOS? Sure.

Honestly, if your points had just concerned DOS DD (who i think loses this), i wouldn't have minded, but your claims about H/P and his so-called weaknesses make me question how much you've read of the character, tbh...