Originally posted by mummy_guy
Lol its just too damn funny how i say that you are a retard and you are writing to me scrolls after scrolls of insults 😆could it be that maybe some family member of yours is retard thats why you get so pissed off by it? well if thats the case that i can see how it can run in your family... anyway retardo you really dont worth my time halfbreed 😆
It keeps my d*ck hard for like six hours when people struggle to keep up with me and then fruitlessly try "going for the jugular".
Originally posted by panthergod
That's nice.With the exception of Zom Strange, who clearly dominated Hulk, and Sentry, who stalemated WW Hulk, WWHulk fought NO ONE on par eith the Morrison JLA's Big Guns. He could even beat a full powered Juggernaut straight up.
Not really, since DD wrecked Darkseid, who is easily more skilled than Hulk.
H/P-DDWars Doomsday beat Orion and J'Onn in less than a minute.
Thus, Hulk cannot possibly out muscle him considering he couldn't even out muscle a chump like Juggernaut.
Exact proof of the fact that anyone claiming that DD is unskilled knows nothing about DD.
You do know that DD's origin is that he spent hundreds if not thousands of lifetimes fighting beasts since infancy, right? part of his powerset is that his instincts are the accumulation of thousands of years of combat.
Then, of course there's the fact that Doomsday has dynamic, rage fueled strength. he's qyuuick enough to catch Flash III(Wally West).
Sorry, But WW Hulk has nothing superior to what DD has demonstrated.
You're just a little off about a few things. For one, "couldn't even out-muscle Juggernaut?" Juggernaut has shown to have the strength to smack even Thor around and take some of his hardest hits. And in case you forgot or simply didn't know, WWHulk was holding back a big chunk of his power the entire arc, including when he stalemated Juggernaut and beat Sentry despite Sentry's aura. World Breaker was powerful enough to do damage along the entire coast of the US with a footstep.
And Doomsday didn't spend years fighting monsters. He spent years being killed by monsters. And given that his power is to evolve beyond what killed him, he wouldn't have to be all that skilled when he automatically resurrects beyond the monster's capacity to kill. Get it? That's the only reason he pwned Superman in H/P. Superman was outgunned. And we're not talking standard Savage Hulk, who is already in Superman range. WWHulk's plot device specifically put him above that range, as clearly indicated by defeating Sentry while holding back and being pacified at the same time. That's like if a special Superman beat Black Adam while holding back and being exposed to kryptonite at the same time. Doctor Strange even explained that unrestrained Ghost Rider, whose power he said was boundless and godlike, could "possibly" defeat WWHulk, and that was only based on what he saw of pre-World Breaker WWHulk. And Zom/Strange? Hulk beat him senseless in just a few shots. And Hulk's wounds healed up in seconds. Zom/Strange really didn't do better than anyone else. It may have been a fight, but not a stomp, and WWHulk was still holding back at the time.
I'm sure Doomsday has skill. But he's not had to rely on it nearly as much as Hulk. Hulk's never had the luxury of just getting killed and coming back way too strong to be killed by the same creature. Seriously, DOS Doomsday, Superman killed him. HP Doomsday, however, came back absurdly powerful, and stomped Superman. Superman killed him when their powers were equal. But HP Doomsday was just way beyond Superman. Skill, in that fight, wasn't seen and didn't make a difference. But WWHulk not only has the experience of Savage Hulk's years and years of fighting Thor, Juggernaut, Hercules, Namor, Abomination, and Silver Surfer, he's actually had training as well. Powers aside, those guys were much better fighters than Hulk and at least or more than able to physically challenge him. And power-wise, Hulk was able to clock Surfer even while getting his gamma siphoned, and has taken some of Thor's hardest shots in stride.
Doomsday is skilled? Fine. But I ask, do you really think DOS Doomsday would have fared well against Darkseid? It wasn't until he came back in H/P that he was an ultra-brick and stomped Darkseid and Superman. However, Hulk has pwned Namor, almost beat Abomination, Hercules, and Gladiator to death, has gone toe-to-toe with Thor for hours, and he beat Silver Surfer bad in the arena while they were both weakened. WWHulk has oodles of skill and years of experience fighting enemies that actually fight back instead of just monsters that eat and maul you.
In my opinion, Hulk's fighting experience has been more valuable, and with the WWHulk persona he should be plenty able to challenge HP Doomsday physically. If they're physically matched, it would boil down to skill. And WWHulk is simply more skilled. Or rather, his fights have shown to not be entirely about power. He was using tactics on people he easily could've stomped, like Emma Frost and Rockslide. This fight comes down to skill. If this isn't a stalemate because of HF's, WWHulk wins by KO.