Originally posted by ScreamPaste
First I lol'd... Then I lol'd summoar.K, what's EG gonna do? Impotently wiggle it's slow ass tentacles at Sin?
If one tentacle breaches an orifice then Sin has been officially raped and no one can come back from a tentacle raping. For example, have you seen Q'Anilia around lately? 😖hifty:
apart from the perfect tools for fighting the E.G, sin prob cannot see nor touch the EG who is planetary/continental in size and could smother it.
Unless sin is allowed to see/touch the Elder AND has a continental sized powerful attack then its not going to win thats for sure even if the E.G cannot damage Sin.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
If one tentacle breaches an orifice then Sin has been officially raped and no one can come back from a tentacle raping. For example, have you seen Q'Anilia around lately? 😖hifty:
Good point. Fallacious, but good 🙂
Originally posted by iChaos
Not my saying...someone else's.So you're saying Kain isn't powerful?
He said he was mediocre, which is true. He's powerful in Nosgoth and if compared to a number of game universes, but looking at the grand picture will have you realize that he is not really powerful. He just has a number of handy abilities that increase his efficiency above the level of his powers, allowing him to take on characters that might from an objective perspective be more powerful.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q66LW_ASPY
Attack that can be seen from space> Elder God
Originally posted by Rapidash
He just has a number of handy abilities that increase his efficiency above the level of his powers, allowing him to take on characters that might from an narrow minded and ignorant perspective be more powerful.
Originally posted by Nephthys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q66LW_ASPYAttack that can be seen from space> Elder God
Not really it was just large, as Screampaste said:
Originally posted by ScreamPasteSize =/= power.
And furthermore it was extremely slow, it took him ages to create that orb in front of him and fire it loose, EG isnt a speedster but he would smother the whale across its whole body and squeeze long before it could start such a manouver, especially with it needing to have its mouth open and faceing the direction of fireing, furthermore whats he going to aim at? thin air? has that orb destroyed non physical/multi dimenstional matter before? or spirit?
EG constantly multiplies the size of his own body across his whole body while smothering Sin and filling every explosed hole on his body from his anus to his mouth until it dies.
Originally posted by Nephthys
EG tries to smother him and he'll be on the receiving end of a disintegrating forcefield. Giving Sin enough time to use his physics-breaking Beamthing. Or better yet his Overdrive 'Youlosethegame'.Edit: And Sin has a pocket dimension in his stomach, so we know he can affect dimension stuff.
he has a pocket dimension in his stomach so therefore he can strike dimenstional/spiritual enttiies? lolz
Elder God is enormous, his sheer size would crush Sin unless he has some incredible strength/durabiltiy feats....
Either way Sin still has no way of killing and prob not even touching EG so neither win.
he has a pocket dimension in his stomach so therefore he can strike dimenstional/spiritual enttiies? lolz
No, when the Airship zaps off one of Sin's arms, some of the contained energy of Sin is released and forms a portal to the pocket dimension in his stomach. Ergo, the energy Sin has can affect multi-dimensional space, ergo he can affect things in extra-dimensions, ergo he blows the Elder Gods fawking head off (or at least the eye Kain killed)
Elder God is enormous, his sheer size would crush Sin unless he has some incredible strength/durabiltiy feats....
You're clearly trying to have your cake and eat it too. How can EG be intangible to all of Sin's attacks and yet still be able to touch him? Plus I've already pointed out that Sin not only has a forcefield, but that his forcefield has demonstrated that it can disintegrate everything that touches it. If EG does try to smother him, he'll get disintegrated.
Originally posted by Nephthys
No, when the Airship zaps off one of Sin's arms, some of the contained energy of Sin is released and forms a portal to the pocket dimension in his stomach. Ergo, the energy Sin has can affect multi-dimensional space, ergo he can affect things in extra-dimensions, ergo he blows the Elder Gods fawking head off (or at least the eye Kain killed)You're clearly trying to have your cake and eat it too. How can EG be intangible to all of Sin's attacks and yet still be able to touch him? Plus I've already pointed out that Sin not only has a forcefield, but that his forcefield has demonstrated that it can disintegrate everything that touches it. If EG does try to smother him, he'll get disintegrated.
The aireship just zaps off one of sins arms? I assume this airship has some powerful feats with its weapons otherwise...
No, the energy within sin lanced out and did what damage exactly? this isnt Sin himself chooseing to fire, and we still dont know if Sin can see spirits or affect them, and the little piece Sin damages means nothing to the EG who can multiply and re-heal his body.
Because thats how the EG works, the EG can touch the physical plane himself, e.g. rock, earth and Kain yet its also multi-dimentional and spiritual and cannot be seen/touched by the typical entity.
Depends, by "everything that touches it" what has actually touched it? spiritual matter? anything worth noteing? I doubt something that takes the weight of the planets mantle that it digs under, all that pressure must make it damn hard to damage.
Originally posted by Burning thought
You seriously think that telekinesis, transforming into mist or bats, shapeshifting, teleporting and taking souls is the general definition of being powerful? With the exception of his barely useful time ability and his vague shielding ability, Kain's powers are not powerful.
Most of them are basic abilities from more than one gaming universe.
The only reason Kain wins a battle, is because his powers in combination make Kain powerful. His powers by themselves are not powerful, merely useful.
Many of the opponents he can fight and defeat is very possibly more powerful than him in terms of sheer power.
Don't flaunt the word ignorant around, it will do you more harm than good, given how biased you are on this matter. I'm not saying Kain is weak, so no need to defend him on that matter. In fact, I'm giving him credit for being so dangerous with such second rate abilities.
The aireship just zaps off one of sins arms? I assume this airship has some powerful feats with its weapons otherwise...
Well firstly Tidus and the gang pounded on it to weaken it, then the airship does some random lightning cannon attack.
No, the energy within sin lanced out and did what damage exactly? this isnt Sin himself chooseing to fire, and we still dont know if Sin can see spirits or affect them, and the little piece Sin damages means nothing to the EG who can multiply and re-heal his body.
Well turns out it didn't happen like I said, Tidus and the gang beat up Sin face to face until it opened a portal of its own free will. But this still shows that Sin's magic/energy has the power to affect dimensions, meaning that his attacks can go through and affect stuff in other dimensions.
And wtf? Kain beat the EG just by attacking its eye. Sin will just keep curbstomping EG until it hits that. And when did he heal himself and how do you think this will work against an attack that vaporises rock etc instantaneously so that for several seconds water doesn't even feel gravity (clearly warping physics in a surrounding area) and then cuasing explosions that can be seen from space?
Because thats how the EG works, the EG can touch the physical plane himself, e.g. rock, earth and Kain yet its also multi-dimentional and spiritual and cannot be seen/touched by the typical entity.
If it can touch physical matter it can be affected by physical matter, as you well know, for if not then your claims of him being 'super durable' for dealing with the pressure of living underground. Wiki has this to say on the matter - 'Seeing as how he feeds on souls, destroy Planar portals & edifices it is safe to say that he inhabits both the Material realm & the Spectral realm like Melchiah or Dumah.' Melchiah was killed by a grinder and Dumah by a fire. 😬
Depends, by "everything that touches it" what has actually touched it? spiritual matter? anything worth noteing? I doubt something that takes the weight of the planets mantle that it digs under, all that pressure must make it damn hard to damage.
Metal. And see above.
edit: Plus the field took the blast of that giant lightning canon.
Originally posted by Burning thought
apart from the perfect tools for fighting the E.G, sin prob cannot see nor touch the EG who is planetary/continental in size and could smother it.Unless sin is allowed to see/touch the Elder AND has a continental sized powerful attack then its not going to win thats for sure even if the E.G cannot damage Sin.
Of course he is. I stated that they were fighting on neutral territory to support both of their sizes.