Sin vs The Elder God

Started by EvilAngel9 pages

So you think he might be able to force someone to die, because he controls "the wheel of fate"

Sure.... that sounds completely unfounded.

To me atleast, he's boasting and it's obvious. So where this idea came from he could kill anyone i have no clue. Since it has absolutely no backing of any sort. I really struggle to see where you think it's going.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Or my understanding of those instances are beyond your understanding of my perception. Don't get annoyed or irritated and try and make a jibe because of your own mistake

Can go both ways. Your perspective is not any more right than hers, no matter how certain you are on yourself.

Originally posted by Burning thought

Or my understanding of those instances are beyond your understanding of my perception. Don't get annoyed or irritated and try and make a jibe because of your own mistake

Predictable response.

Could you self inflate your ego a little more, the kids can't use it as a bouncy castle yet -.-'

Originally posted by EvilAngel
So you think he might be able to force someone to die, because he controls "the wheel of fate"

Sure.... that sounds completely unfounded.

To me atleast, he's boasting and it's obvious. So where this idea came from he could kill anyone i have no clue. Since it has absolutely no backing of any sort. I really struggle to see where you think it's going.

Don't confuse 'the wheel of fate' with 'The Wheel of life, death, and rebirth'. It's all food for thought anyway. However, it is known that EG has power over the deceased.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Don't confuse 'the wheel of fate' with 'The Wheel of life, death, and rebirth'. It's all food for thought anyway. However, it is known that EG has power over the deceased.

Okay, so can i ask what inspires the thought for the leap?

He has control over the dead, just to relate, so do necromancers, but wat makes you think said control also extends to the living?

I just would have thought while they are in their body, they aren't vunerable to EG as they are when they are dead. Hence i ask; do you have any kind of backing at all for such a claim?

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Okay, so can i ask what inspires the thought for the leap?

He has control over the dead, just to relate, so do necromancers, but wat makes you think said control also extends to the living?

I just would have thought while they are in their body, they aren't vunerable to EG as they are when they are dead. Hence i ask; do you have any kind of backing at all for such a claim?

Finally you got it. And no, I don't have anything backing it, since it was all speculation from the beginning. It was just food for thought.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Finally you got it. And no, I don't have anything backing it, since it was all speculation from the beginning. It was just food for thought.

I think you mean; finally i put it into words you understand. All i asked was, it's a power you guys just thought up, not one you can prove he has.

Which it is.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
I think you mean; finally i put it into words you understand. All i asked was, it's a power you guys just thought up, not one you can prove he has.

Which it is.

We didn't just think it up. Given the nature of the Elder God and his powers, it would not be entirely unreasonable to assume that he could do it to a living being. After all, EG controls the "Wheel of life, death, and rebirth"; his powers go beyond mere necromancy.

As you can see, it's different than outright pulling something out the ass. At any rate, I never tried to present it as a fact and neither did BT, I believe.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
We didn't just think it up. Given the nature of the Elder God and his powers, it would not be entirely unreasonable to [B]assume that he could do it to a living being. After all, EG controls the "Wheel of life, death, and rebirth"; his powers go beyond mere necromancy.

As you can see, it's different than outright pulling something out the ass. At any rate, I never tried to present it as a fact and neither did BT, I believe. [/B]

The moment you assume something that's never suggested or hinted at, as it wasn't ever shown, it's pulling it out of your ass.

I only questioned it to begin with because you said that's how EG could win.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
The moment you assume something that's never suggested or hinted at, as it wasn't ever shown, it's pulling it out of your ass.

I only questioned it to begin with because you said that's how EG could win.

But it is suggested and hinted at.

And just where did I say that's how EG would win? The word 'could' and a question mark implies uncertainty.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
But it is suggested and hinted at.

And just where did I say that's how EG would win? The word 'could' and a question mark implies uncertainty.

How long are we going to do this?

It is play on words. That's all. It was never suggested or hinted to have ever happened. Isn't that how the whole games versus works. You need feats to back it up and all? Whatever.

Sure, whatever i really couldn't care anymore. I only asked to confirm it wasn't something that has ever actually happened.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
How long are we going to do this?

It is play on words. That's all. It was never suggested or hinted to have ever happened. Isn't that how the whole games versus works. You need feats to back it up and all? Whatever.

Sure, whatever i really couldn't care anymore. I only asked to confirm it wasn't something that has ever actually happened.

So what are you saying then? That EG's powers are simply a play on words?

I can confirm it too: EG has never placed a still-living being on the "Wheel".

That the theory behind that being possible is a play on words.

And seriously stop. This is old now.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
It is play on words. That's all. It was never suggested or hinted to have ever happened. Isn't that how the whole games versus works. You need feats to back it up and all? Whatever

Depends on how serious you take it.

I love debating Warcraft, but because everyone on this forum takes everything so serious, I can't do it to its full potentials. Everyone wants proof of everything, even things that a character by all logic should be able to do, but has not done. Thus' making debating Warcraft fairly boring.

In other words: It's a matter of perspective. I don't expect feats most of the time, simply logic. Most however, you included it seems, want feats, which is nothing less than understandable 🙂

Although in the end, if asking me: No, you don't need feats to back it up. Only logic.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
That the theory behind that being possible is a play on words.

And seriously stop. This is old now.

Maybe a little bit, but EG's powers are very real.

Wonderful. When i want to hear about that, rest assure, you are the first person i will come to.

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
Depends on how serious you take it.

I love debating Warcraft, but because everyone on this forum takes everything so serious, I can't do it to its full potentials. Everyone wants proof of everything, even things that a character by all logic should be able to do, but has not done. Thus' making debating Warcraft fairly boring.

In other words: It's a matter of perspective. I don't expect feats most of the time, simply logic. Most however, you included it seems, want feats, which is nothing less than understandable 🙂

Although in the end, if asking me: No, you don't need feats to back it up. Only logic.

I only ask feats when the person i'm talking to is the kind to ask for them. Or i don't trust what they're saying.

More often that not i won't bother. Though i do like to ask for video's whenever possible. They keep me entertained =)

Eh, some peoples logic isn't logical. If you catch my drift. That's all there is to it for me.

I simply don't debate lack of logic. I often give up after one or two posts. One of the reasons why I refrain debates from Burning Thought 🙂 (No, I will not debate, discuss or even elaborate this for you, Burning Thought)

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
I simply don't debate lack of logic. I often give up after one or two posts. One of the reasons why I refrain debates from Burning Thought 🙂 (No, I will not debate, discuss or even elaborate this for you, Burning Thought)

How about debating that with me?

No 😛

This whole issue of the EG discussion of power is based on someone not reading the post she was replying to, it was just a discussion and as AG put it, "food for thought" nobody ever stated its a definite ability the EG would use or could be capable of. We were using logic to base ideas on, not feats or fact. This forum has problem with logic.

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
Can go both ways. Your perspective is not any more right than hers, no matter how certain you are on yourself.

I covered this statement and pretty much replicated it with the "or" I put at the beginning of my statement.