Originally posted by Nephthys
Well firstly Tidus and the gang pounded on it to weaken it, then the airship does some random lightning cannon attack.Well turns out it didn't happen like I said, Tidus and the gang beat up Sin face to face until it opened a portal of its own free will. But this still shows that Sin's magic/energy has the power to affect dimensions, meaning that his attacks can go through and affect stuff in other dimensions.
And wtf? Kain beat the EG just by attacking its eye. Sin will just keep curbstomping EG until it hits that. And when did he heal himself and how do you think this will work against an attack that vaporises rock etc instantaneously so that for several seconds water doesn't even feel gravity (clearly warping physics in a surrounding area) and then cuasing explosions that can be seen from space?
If it can touch physical matter it can be affected by physical matter, as you well know, for if not then your claims of him being 'super durable' for dealing with the pressure of living underground. Wiki has this to say on the matter - 'Seeing as how he feeds on souls, destroy Planar portals & edifices it is safe to say that he inhabits both the Material realm & the Spectral realm like Melchiah or Dumah.' Melchiah was killed by a grinder and Dumah by a fire. 😬
Metal. And see above.
edit: Plus the field took the blast of that giant lightning canon.
No it doesnt ,him opening a portal unless he can maintain it into the Elder Gods excistence and attack him spiritually will not help him.
Kain used the Soul reaver,its the perfect weapon for attacking the EG because it harms his very essence, unlike Sins powers which look compeltly physical. And this is Sin vs the whole EG, Kain fought a part.
False, your talking in real life, this is a dimentional entity who exists on several planes yet physical entities cannot seem to hit back at him, or sense or touch him in any way without Kains sight, he wouldnt have either.
Originally posted by Rapidash
You seriously think that telekinesis, transforming into mist or bats, shapeshifting, teleporting and taking souls is the general definition of being powerful? With the exception of his barely useful time ability and his vague shielding ability, Kain's powers are not powerful.Most of them are basic abilities from more than one gaming universe.
The only reason Kain wins a battle, is because his powers in combination make Kain powerful. His powers by themselves are not powerful, merely useful.
Many of the opponents he can fight and defeat is very possibly more powerful than him in terms of sheer power.
Don't flaunt the word ignorant around, it will do you more harm than good, given how biased you are on this matter. I'm not saying Kain is weak, so no need to defend him on that matter. In fact, I'm giving him credit for being so dangerous with such second rate abilities.
Varietywise he is powerful, whats your defintion of power? size, amount of physical damage? all worthless if your soul is ripped out really. Power comes in many forms and Kains is not a flashy AOE.
Not powerful? ofc they are, stopping time, taking souls...all are powerful, taking the abilities of blood you drink useing TK, all powerful in the right hands. Who are you comparing him to say hes medicore?
I am very objective, I say nothing bias, I simply know Kain and read up on his opponents.
Originally posted by iChaos
EG is nonething but a squid? With eyes and tentacles. He couldn't even "crush" Kain. Funny how he could crush Sin, but couldn't crush Kain at the end of Defiance.
Kain has the right tools and speed to evade being crushed, Sin does not seem to have that baseing it on that video and my own far less than vivid memory of playing of FF10.
no he has the right tools to strike the Elder God and damage it spiritually it would seem and at the same time, escape the part hf fought which was during game play only about 1 large eye and 3 tentacles.
Although I cant see the EG using only 3 tentacles against something as large as Sin, or if it was going all out. It has no reason to hold back its full might either as it did against Kain.
"sigh" stripulations against unique aspects of an entity so it cannot win are pointless if you want to see who would win out of the two.
But fine, if thats the case then perhaps none of them can win if this forcefield of Sins has shown to be able to take constant damage from something of EG size...which I very much doubt.
Sin cannot do anything to EG, its too vast and can regen and multiply its mass almost instantly. Even if Sin blasted a huge chunk out of the EG with his slow ass blast, by the time hes finished the EG would have multiplied the rest of his body and the damage would be akin to a splinter in your finger.
Originally posted by Burning thought
"sigh" stripulations against unique aspects of an entity so it cannot win are pointless if you want to see who would win out of the two.
Really now? These "stripulations" weren't made against EG at all. For one didn't know he was "planet size". I never paid any attention to him when I played the games because I found him boring. I thought he was some normal monster sized green tentacle douche underground and I came in with the belieft that Sin was bigger so yeah, no one is trying set him up for failure.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Really now? These "stripulations" weren't made against EG at all. For one didn't know he was "planet size". I never paid any attention to him when I played the games because I found him boring. I thought he was some normal monster sized green tentacle douche underground and I came in with the belieft that Sin was bigger so yeah, no one is trying set him up for failure.
Regardless, the fact his multi dimenstional is part of what he is, if you take that from him yet do not take anything from Sin then its sort of unfair dont you think?
But anyway, neither win if Sins shield has shown to take what EG can bring to the table, which is simply his physical size which will get bigger, so EG would eventually win from that stand point but nobody would win if they remain at their base values.
I dont know, logically he probably could because he is the controller of he wheel of fate, death/life/rebirth etc but one could argue that Sin is not part of the LOK wheel of fate and so would not be susceptible. Another argument is ofc its only logical, EG has not just made someone keel over and die before afai remember.
Originally posted by Burning thought
I dont know, logically he probably could because he is the controller of he wheel of fate, death/life/rebirth etc but one could argue that Sin is not part of the LOK wheel of fate and so would not be susceptible. Another argument is ofc its only logical, EG has not just made someone keel over and die before afai remember.
Yeah like how he made Kain die...