Originally posted by truejedi
[QUOTE=12275041]Originally posted by Nephthys
No I didn't, I said that he was trained by Kyle Katarn, who (Kyle) went on to be the Battlemaster of the order.
I see. Your grammar was confusing:
Originally posted by Nephthys
What, you mean like Rosh Penin, the guy who was trained by Kyle Katarn, who would go on to be Battlemaster of the NJO?
should be:
Originally posted by Nephthys[/quote]
What, you mean like Rosh Penin, the guy who was trained by Kyle Katarn, and Katarn would go on to be Battlemaster of the NJO?
If anything what you corrected his original sentence into lost its original, clear meaning as a question. Where originally, the focus of his sentence and essentially what he was asking was clearly "What, you mean like Rosh Penin", now, it appears that whether or not Kyle Katarn would go on to become Battlemaster of the NJO is in question.
hmmm... well, i can see that, but usually when you start two phrases with the word who, and have two names in a sentence, its good to clarify which name is the subect of that second clause.
All i know is, i read it, and genuinely came away thinking: Since when is Rosh Penin the battlemaster of the NJO? That is what the rules of clarity were made to avoid.
and i wasn't mean about it! but anywayz, yeah, i should have axed the question mark and made it two sentences.
Originally posted by MasterAshenVor
Dr.McBeefington please keep your profanity level to a minimum....Profanity does not make you any more sophisticated. It just makes you look dumb. and please be kind to the other posters they have a right to their opinion just prove them wrong if they are. that's it.Thank you.
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Originally posted by MasterAshenVor
Dr.McBeefington please keep your profanity level to a minimum....Profanity does not make you any more sophisticated. It just makes you look dumb. and please be kind to the other posters they have a right to their opinion just prove them wrong if they are. that's it.Thank you.
Oh no he di-int.
NEB
If anything what you corrected his original sentence into lost its original, clear meaning as a question. Where originally, the focus of his sentence and essentially what he was asking was clearly "What, you mean like Rosh Penin", now, it appears that whether or not Kyle Katarn would go on to become Battlemaster of the NJO is in question.
Not really.
Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
Gotta love Allankles. He doesn't just jump into the delusion of victory. He makes sure to use the reading comprehension line first! Rofl way too easy..
Wut! That you interpreted "he was empowered by dark side force energy from several planets" as "he was empowered by several planets" is clear, and a sign that your reading comprehension was lacking there.
I just wade through the bull s*** to get to the heart of the matter i.e. I don't care about "claiming victory" (that's your schtick).
EDIT: You didn't share Advent's main argument anyway, and hers wasn't based on what actually happened in Kotor where Carth stops Revan from finishing Malak on the Leviathan because they had to find the final star map (not because of some idea that Malak was too much for them).
Originally posted by Allankles
WDIT: You didn't share Advent's main argument anyway, and hers wasn't based on what actually happened in Kotor
Oh, really?
Malak toying with Revan, 7:52: Malak controls the upper hand as he puts Revan in a Force Whirlwind, making him unable to attack or defend. Malak runs away, intending to face Revan again. This demonstrates how Malak was playing with Revan; despite the fact he had an opportunity to press the offensive without resistance, he doesn't. Later, during their imminent confrontation after this, Malak is still seen with the advantage (Revan at his mercy). This also gives credence to the point about Malak being too strong at that point.
Malak is interrupted by Bastila, 8:55: We see Revan unable to fight back being stuck in a Force Stasis. That's cold, hard fact. He couldn't do anything. At all. Meaning just that - if Malak wasn't interrupted, Revan could not do anything. This is indisputable, because at...
8:56: Bastila arrives. Literally one second after Malak puts Revan in a stasis. This gives Malak no chance to react, and had he tried to react, we see what would happen at 9:13 with Bastila throwing her lightsaber at Malak.
The reason that Bastila sacrificed herself was so that her two companions could escape. Obviously, she knew that he couldn't be beaten, combined with Carth and Revan or not. How can you possibly fathom that they would want to escape from a foe that they could beat, and who's death would bring an end to the war? Indeed, it's true that they couldn't, and therefore, retreated.
"We have to find the Star Forge that's the key to defeating the Dark Lord" — Carth Onasi.
Wait, didn't you say:
Originally posted by Allankles
Revan could have ended the contest on the Leviathan. The only reason Revan doesn't go after Malak there and then is his mission to find the Star Forge. If not for Carth, Revan kills Malak on the Leviathan.
The key to winning the war against Malak's Sith Empire would be, of course, killing Malak. Revan was no more than ten feet away from Revan, yet he opted to flee from battle.
Although Revan doesn't have any dialogue choices that directly indicate his feelings; his action do directly imply his feelings. He apparently agreed with reason; that is, Carth. Remember, Carth wanted Malak dead, as did Revan; if either of them felt it would be possible to take down Malak then not only would they be eliminating the main threat to the entire galaxy (contrary to your assertion, as Malak was the only one strong enough to operate the Star Forge -- as well as the commander of the Sith Empire -- he would be priority numero uno if they had the chance; which they did), but they would be rescuing Bastila -- the woman who Revan loves and would die for -- in the process. The fact that Malak couldn't be defeated was the exact reason for Revan's retreat.
What was that you were saying about fan-fiction?
where Carth stops Revan from finishing Malak on the Leviathan
LMAO, Allankles! Have I missed the memo that this is the "Opposite Thread: Suggest the Complete Opposite of the Truth"? Literally everything you have said is entirely wrong or delusional. On both occasions that we see the duel ending in cutscenes, Malak has Revan at his mercy. This has been proved above. Ergo, asserting that Revan was going to "finish" Malak is that fan-fiction you referenced earlier. There was absolutely no indication that Revan could have defeated Malak, and all visual canon suggests completely otherwise; Revan was on the verge of being killed.
You need to provide something, anything that supports your argument. So far, you've done nothing but state your opinion as fact with no evidence backing it up whatsoever and still put up your tiny "Victory" flag. Your own video has disagreed with you on every occasion. Stop making yourself look dense, unless that happens to be what you get off on, because, in that case, I get off on being a dominatrix.
because they had to find the final star map (not because of some idea that Malak was too much for them).
It was an idea shared by all the party members present, as well as Darth Malak. Carth stated that he was too strong. Bastila sacrificed herself so that the party could safely leave; her sacrifice indicates that Malak was too strong. Revan flees with Carth, despite leaving the evil figurehead of the Sith Empire with his girlfriend; indicating he didn't think he could beat Malak either, or else he would have. Malak states that he's too strong, too. This is true enough as on the two occasions we see the duel ending in cutscenes, Malak has the distinct advantage.
Look up. All the evidence is in my corner.
Originally posted by Advent
Lol, thank you, Lucien. That was a pretty bow you put on there.
But we're not talking about Vandar or whoever. We're talking about why Revan didn't go after Malak on the Leviathan. It was because of Carth's words about the Star Forge, and the Star Forge was far more threatening to the wider universe than a single Sith like Malak anyway.
"Bastila doesn't stand a chance against Malak, but we can't help her. Not here. We have to get off this ship and find the Star Forge. That's the key to beating the Dark Lord!" - Carth
The primary reason Carth stops Revan from saving Bastil and looking to finish Malak, is because he believes it will compromise the Republic's efforts in trying to discover the Sith army's Star Forge.
Why are you guys arguing against in game evidence?
I'd expect this from Saxy who just ignores things he doesn't like, but you and Lucien are better than this.