Hey DE, one thing: You said Rosh Penin became the Battle-Master of the Jedi Order.IF that is true. (and you said it, not me) then LS ending is canon.
The end.
No I didn't, I said that he was trained by Kyle Katarn, who (Kyle) went on to be the Battlemaster of the order.
Too easy
For you? Becuase you actually did something? Or did you run away?
Originally posted by Advent
Feat Wars are meaningless. Unless you can put the feats into context, they're not proof of superiority. None of the opponents that Jaden faced were remotely as powerful as a Dark Lord of the Sith like Malak.
He fought Ragnos in a proper physical shell, Ragnos who was imbued with dark side power from several planets. Ragnos using his alchemically powered Sith sword in the body of a well trained dark Jedi. So feat wise Malak loses there as well.
Originally posted by Advent
Allankles, you're not making any sense whatsoever. If Malak chose not to kill Revan, that obviously means he could have chose to kill him.
Which boils down to PIS. There's no reason for not killing Revan if he could. I posted the video, Malak says his intention is to kill Revan one on one.
No one mentions Malak toying with them, in fact Revan could have continued the fight there and then but they still had the Star Forge to find, that's the only reason Revan didn't kill Malak on the Leviathan.
Originally posted by Advent
That doesn't make it ineffectual. Ineffectual would mean it didn't have an effect on the opponent or leave the user in an advantageous position.
Ineffectual because according to the game, Revan could have ended the contest on the Leviathan. The only reason Revan doesn't go after Malak there and then is his mission to find the Star Forge. If not for Carth, Revan kills Malak on the Leviathan.
The only thing saying Malak is too tuff is Malak himself, tooting his own horn (which means nothing).
Originally posted by Advent
I'm not calling it plot-induced stupidity. I'm wondering if you even have any idea of what the concept means since this is the second time you've said that I'm labeling it PIS.
I didn't mean that you were categorically calling it PIS. But anytime someone turns to the "could've", "would've" approach they're basically appealing to the plot or CIS as a primary excuse for why Character x didn't do what they think they should've done.
Nothing in that entire fight suggests that Malak could've or would've killed Revan. The only one saying he could was Malak himself, seems he still had confidence issues.
I posted the video up and you still managed to reason that Malak was "toying" with them when he showed no such intentions (he couldn't "toy" with Revan even if he wanted to).
EDIT: Meanwhile Jaden as a late teen is pwning a dark side infused Marka Ragnos.
Originally posted by Allankles
He fought Ragnos in a proper physical shell, Ragnos who was imbued with dark side power from several planets. Ragnos using his alchemically powered Sith sword in the body of a well trained dark Jedi. So feat wise Malak loses there as well.Which is basically boils down to PIS. There's no reason for not killing Revan if he could. I posted the video, Malak says his intention is to kill Revan one on one.
No one mentions Malak toying with them, in fact Revan could have continued the fight there and then but they still had the Star Forge to find, that's the only reason Revan didn't kill Malak on the Leviathan.
Ineffectual because according to the game Revan could have ended the contest on the Leviathan. The only reason Revan doesn't go after Malak there and then is his mission to find the Star Forge. If not for Carth Revan kills Malak on the Leviathan.
The only thing saying Malak is too tuff is Malak himself, tooting his own horn (which means nothing).
I didn't mean that you were categorically calling it PIS. But anytime someone appeals to the "could've", "would've" approach they're basically appealing to the plot or CIS as an excuse why Character x didn't do what they think they should have done.
Nothing in that entire fight suggests that Malak could've or would've killed Revan. The only one saying he could was Malak himself, seems he still had confidence issues.
I posted the video up and you still managed to reason that Malak was "toying" with them when he showed no such intentions (he couldn't "toy" with Revan even if he wanted to).
Meanwhile Jaden as a late teen is pwning a dark side infused Marka Ragnos. [/B]
This is flat out embarrassing. Stop trying to convince us that Jaden fought Ragnos. Jaden loses this. You lose. Move on.
Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
Touche. When getting your ass kicked, make sure to edit quotes🙂
No, I prefer to throw in a double facepalm, flee with my tail between my legs and later claim victory. That way I'm spared having my opponant humiliate me.
Also, I had forgoton that Ragnos had the power of several darkside planets, that definately makes Ragnos seem more impressive, and by extention Jaden
Originally posted by Nephthys
No, I prefer to throw in a double facepalm, flee with my tail between my legs and later claim victory. That way I'm spared having my opponant humiliate me.
That's great. I prefer to embarrass someone, then do a double facepalm when their argument isn't fathomable to the human mind, and end with a curtain call. 🙂
Also, I had forgoton that Ragnos had the power of several darkside planets, that definately makes Ragnos seem more impressive, and by extention Jaden
Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
That's great. I prefer to embarrass someone, then do a double facepalm when their argument isn't fathomable to the human mind, and end with a curtain call. 🙂
That's pretty sweet I'll admit, but even that pales in comparison to being so incredibly thick that one can fail to comprehend even basic and sensible logic, throw up a blatant and obvious smokescreen of a random facepalm image that I've used many times before and the run away praying to god that my opponant doesn't call e out on it.
Seriously, its like wiping your ass with silk.
Originally posted by Nephthys
That's pretty sweet I'll admit, but even that pales in comparison to being so incredibly thick that one can fail to comprehend even basic and sensible logic, throw up a blatant and obvious smokescreen of a random facepalm image that I've used many times before and the run away praying to god that my opponant doesn't call e out on it.Seriously, its like wiping your ass with silk.
I've embarrassed you on so many occasions that I didn't feel it was necessary to do so again, on same level. And that someone who can't comprehend basic and sensible logic is the same moron who claimed "They were lightside but NOT completely" and "Ragnos was infused with the power of several planets!" Seriously, could you get any dumber, or could this get any easier?
Allankles, at this point, there's nothing more that I can say, and if there was, I'm too tired to say it right now. So, I'll have Willy Wonka say it for me:
Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
There's no evidence, nor any kind of logic that would assume Ragnos had the power of several planets. This is getting to be hilarious on so many different levels.
Reading comprehension would make you look less dense. No one is saying he had the power of several planets, but he had dark side power gleaned from several planets throughout the galaxy. It was the imperial dark side cultist final solution.
It's impressive on its own, your double standards are glaring, even more so when you're arguing for the unimpressive Malak.
Originally posted by Allankles
Reading comprehension would make you look less dense. No one is saying he had the power of several planets, but he had dark side power gleaned from several planets throughout the galaxy. It was the imperial dark side cultist final solution.It's impressive on its own, your double standards are glaring, even more so when you're arguing for the unimpressive Malak.
Except I have no reading comprehension problems seeing as how you basically said EXACTLY what I accused you of saying.. You're definitely behind here..
And there are no double standards, unless you can list them. Oops, you can't. You lose.
Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
I've embarrassed you on so many occasions that I didn't feel it was necessary to do so again, on same level.
Strange, I always pictured you as more of a douche than that. Surely, if you had the chance to utterly humiliate someone, someone who you harbour an intense hatred over, whose actually asking for you to do it, baiting you to, insulting you straight to your (digital) face, I would have placed money that you'd do it.
Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
And that someone who can't comprehend basic and sensible logic is the same moron who claimed "They were lightside but NOT completely"
Which I never did.
Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
and "Ragnos was infused with the power of several planets!" Seriously, could you get any dumber, or could this get any easier?
Now that I think about it, wasn't that energy used to create the disciples of Ragnos in th efirst place. Further study is needed.
Originally posted by Advent
Allankles, at this point, there's nothing more that I can say, and if there was, I'm too tired to say it right now. So, I'll have Willy Wonka say it for me:
😂
A level above the usual Saxy images, but still only a Saxy tactic.
Originally posted by Allankles
Ineffectual because according to the game, Revan could have ended the contest on the Leviathan. The only reason Revan doesn't go after Malak there and then is his mission to find the Star Forge. If not for Carth, Revan kills Malak on the Leviathan.
What the F are you babbling on about? This part is particularly the most idiotic of all you wrote. "If not for Carth, Revan kills Malak on the Leviathan"? Is there an alternate version of the game that I'm missing? If Revan could have killed Malak, he would have. Weren't you the same one who just said this:
But anytime someone appeals to the "could've", "would've" approach they're basically appealing to the plot or CIS as an excuse why Character x didn't do what they think they should have done.
Something you called a "weak argument", I believe.
Not to mention, how could the Star Forge be more important than killing Darth Malak? I could see that being the case if Revan wasn't ten feet away from Malak, and the Star Forge was close by. But neither of those things were true. Malak was literally ten feet away from him. Bastila put herself in danger dueling Malak one-on-one. Killing Malak and saving the woman that he loves would be the top priority if he could. Again, that is why you get nothing. That is why you lose. Good day, sir.
Originally posted by Allankles
A level above the usual Saxy images, but still only a Saxy tactic.
As you can see from the plus some pages I metaphorically dropped an elbow on your arguments from the top rope, I don't need to do anything other than "Sextics"; you haven't come to the table with anything new (as seen above, and I'm sure will come below).