Superman vs Thor (Full-Potential Battle)

Originally posted by carver9
Got a question, over the past 3 years what is superman highest speed that he has fought an opponent at? The last fight that I have seen him in he was punching at the speed of sound. Does ha have anything that exceed that bc if not I know for a fact that thor should be able to easily hang against him.

Another question why is people bringing up Superman heat vision or ice breath having any type of affect on thor when even beta ray bill survived sleeping inside of the core of a sun without even feeling it. Ice breath, thor controls the storms themselve, cold breath aint doing sh** to him.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
SO you want me to limit Superman's showing to only 3 years???? What about Thor? Is he still able to use 20+ years??

Originally posted by Galan007
of course. that's how shit works around here.

Now to further my point(again thanks Spire), here is proff everyone vibrates in Marvel Universe. What's crazy is that it states that not even Reed knows much about. Superman however, seem to know much more. He knows exactly how it work. Interesting?? Of course!
http://s603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/Spire84/?action=view&current=FantasticFourv105817.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
Another question why is people bringing up Superman heat vision or ice breath having any type of affect on thor when even beta ray bill survived sleeping inside of the core of a sun without even feeling it.

Ice breath, thor controls the storms themselve, cold breath aint doing sh** to him.

You, get back in your corner.

wtfawe

And don't leave until you can answer this question yourself. sneer

Originally posted by xJLxKing
He won accept it 😠

I never argued that he doesn't have Superhuman reflexes. I am sure he does. I am talking about the reaction that would help him fight a blitz.

Are you seriously saying that Thor will absorb al of Superman's powers instantly??
The distance matters.

If I'm driving a car from 7 blocks away to hit you with, your reaction time is sufficient enough to make an escape, or dodge. Though, If I am 2 feet away from you going at 75 Mph, you won't have time. Get it??

Incorrect supes is NOT that much stronger or that much superior in the duribility department. however he is greater in both. And as most supes fanboys your forgeting about magical attack 1000's of years worth of experience and thors hammer.

To many supes fans try to gear the fight to benifit supes. Supes and thor are compareable in strength and durability however i do feel supes still has the advantage here. But hes not that far ahead like some may think.

do you Get it?

Good job at contradicting yourself

Originally posted by xJLxKing
You posted it

Yes and no where in what I quoted stated, that he cannot fly without Mjolnr. Honestly, you would need to take a leap in logic to come to that conclusion.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
and I ask you how many times was it stated in 10 years!

Honestly? I got no clue at all.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
2 different scenarios!
Other wise, Thor can kill Odin, Or anyone who doesn't have power stored inside them (which is much more then a galaxy) badly flawed

What in the hell are you talking about?

How the hell is it badly flawed at all? You aren't even making sense. Thor can drain enough power to destroy a galaxy instantly. Does Superman have that much energy contained within him? No he doesn't, hence if Thor does attempt to drain him, he would leave Superman completely deprived of energy and powerless in moments if not straight up dead. And being the God of Thunder, obscuring the Sun, to stop Superman from gaining any Sunlight would be child's play.

Fortunately, Odin has shown that he possesses the power necessary to destroy Galaxies.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
actually, it all depend on the speed of the attack and Thor's reaction. I don't see him having the time to move his Hammer in the same direction Superman's heat vision is pointed at and defend if Superman is behind him, or next to him. It's a different subject if Superman is trying to used HV without Super Speed, and other powers backing him up. In addition, Superman isn't aiming at his hammer.

Thor has moved Mjolnir at speeds faster than light, and attacked at the speed of thought with Mjolnir in the past. Yes, he has the necessary reaction time to deal with it. Shit, look at Beta Ray Bill, he was fighting at faster than light speeds, with Silver Surfer recently. I do not know why people assume Thor is slow. He might not have body movements as fast as Superman's, but his reaction time, would allow him to handle his speed just fine. It's as if just because a character doesn't leave "TEH AFTERIMAGESS!!", they are not fast, or cannot react fast.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Teleporting is not the same as traveling. The blond dude(forgot his name atm) provided the statement needed. Then there is the situation itself where Thor "could have" gotten to his destination without Mjolnir, but instead he used it to fly him there because he has no other means to fly.

You missed my point.

And are you even listening to yourself? Mjolnir is damaged, so Donald Blake says he is not sure if it will allow them to fly. Based on this, you have somehow come to the conclusion that because he used Mjolnir to fly to his destination, that means he cannot fly on his own, which makes absolutely no damn sense at all, when we know for a fact, Mjolnir is his most used form of flight but he can also fly on his own, when necessary.

Also my point about the teleportation was that, since it would be the most efficient method of getting there, and he didn't teleport there, do we assume he cannot teleport anymore?

Yes and no where in what I quoted stated, that he cannot fly without Mjolnr. Honestly, you would need to take a leap in logic to come to that conclusion.

Honestly? I got no clue at all.

What in the hell are you talking about? How the hell is it badly flawed at all? You aren't even making sense. Thor can drain enough power to destroy a galaxy instantly. Does Superman have that much energy contained within him? No he doesn't, hence if Thor does attempt to drain him, he would leave Superman completely deprived of energy and powerless in moments if not straight up dead. And being the God of Thunder, obscuring the Sun, to stop Superman from gaining any Sunlight would be child's play. Fortunately, Odin has shown that he possesses the power necessary to destroy Galaxies.

Thor has moved Mjolnir at speeds faster than light, and attacked at the speed of thought with Mjolnir in the past. Yes, he has the necessary reaction time to deal with it. Shit, look at Beta Ray Bill, he was fighting at faster than light speeds, with Silver Surfer recently. I do not know why people assume Thor is slow. He might not have body movements as fast as Superman's, but his reaction time, would allow him to handle his speed just fine. It's as if just because a character doesn't leave "TEH AFTERIMAGESS!!", they are not fast, or cannot react fast.

And are you even listening to yourself? Mjolnir is damaged, so Donald Blake says he is not sure if it will allow them to fly. Based on this, you have somehow come to the conclusion that because he used Mjolnir to fly to his destination, that means he cannot fly on his own, which makes absolutely no damn sense at all, when we know for a fact, Mjolnir is his most used form of flight but he can also fly on his own, when necessary. Also my point about the teleportation was that, since it would be the most efficient method of getting there, and he didn't teleport there, do we assume he cannot teleport anymore?

I g2g now law abiding citizen time, but I'll post later.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
You posted it yourself. I am just saying what you said.

I never said he needed Mjolnir to fly.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
So how would I know if his statement was just a one time thing??? Get it?/

Because it's been said more than once. On different occasions. That's why.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
You missed my point again.
Going by your logic, if Thor can absorb something, he'll do it instantly. Would he absorb all of SS's power instantly and killing him in a second? same goes for Superman? It's obviously not the case.

Missed what point.

What do you mean going by my logic?

His done so on freaking panel. He absorbed the power of the Null Bomb instantly. Instantly. What do you have trouble comprehending here?

The power to destroy a Galaxy > Energy Superman possesess

Is that true? If yes, and Thor absorbed the Null Bomb instantly, why would he have any less trouble with Superman? The Presence, had absolute control over his energy apparently, and he got drained dry.

Why is it obviously not the case? Give me a reason why it would not be the case if Thor tried this tactic.

Faulty comparison. Silver Surfer's energy reserves are more than likely larger than Superman's and his ability to control his own Power Cosmic, is a hell of a lot better, than Superman's ability to control his inner Solar energy. Meaning if something fails on Norrin, it does not mean it will fail on Clark.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Where did I say Thor is slow? His reaction time is good, it aint good enough. Yeah, they showed him using this "sol" movement maybe 5 times in 20 years. I seriously don't think it's enough. IF you can show me that he does this often, then fine, but I doubt it.

Why isn't it good enough? I mean besides you wanting it not to be?

Why would it not be enough? Is there some sort of pre-set amount of times a character is supposed to do a feat before it becomes viable? His done it a number of times. Beta Ray Bill's battle with Silver Surfer recently, is an indication of what speeds Thor could fight at.

Show me the number of times, Superman has speed blitzed someone on Thor's level. Go on make a list. Someone on Thor's level physically. We'll see how much times his done it and go from there.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
So why didn't he fly around using this other method? He was in a hurry, something about the hospital. I am sure he would have done it if he wanted to. Not only that, but why go through ALL the trouble of barely flying and moving around(barely) if you can just levitate? WHy? it doesn't make sense whatsoever!!!

Why doesn't Flash speed steal the speed of every opponent? Why? WHY!? It's called, now spell it out with me, P.L.O.T.

Thor could have easily teleported there. Instantly. He didn't have to fly. But a little drama is good for the soul.

What do you mean barely flying? We see him taking off clearly.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
I g2g now law abiding citizen time, but I'll post later.

Bedtime already?

Because it's been said more than once. On different occasions. That's why.

Missed what point. What do you mean going by my logic? His done so on freaking panel. He absorbed the power of the Null Bomb instantly. Instantly. What do you have trouble comprehending here? The power to destroy a Galaxy > Energy Superman possesess Is that true? If yes, and Thor absorbed the Null Bomb instantly, why would he have any less trouble with Superman? The Presence, had absolute control over his energy apparently, and he got drained dry. Why is it obviously not the case? Give me a reason why it would not be the case if Thor tried this tactic. Faulty comparison. Silver Surfer's energy reserves are more than likely larger than Superman's and his ability to control his own Power Cosmic, is a hell of a lot better, than Superman's ability to control his inner Solar energy. Meaning if something fails on Norrin, it does not mean it will fail on Clark.

Why doesn't Flash speed steal the speed of every opponent? Why? WHY!? It's called, now spell it out with me, P.L.O.T. Thor could have easily teleported there. Instantly. He didn't have to fly. But a little drama is good for the soul. What do you mean barely flying? We see him taking off clearly.

Bedtime already?

This thread should be closed, it took 10 kryptonians to stop a moon and they still was unable to slow it down. As of right now thor>>>>>>Superman.

We go from superman needing the aid of a gl to move the planet earth from superman needing to go light speed in order to destroy a moon and then still got koed. From konvikt one shotting him, to wonder woman having superior reflexes to 10 krytonians being unable to even slow a moon down, to him wearing a air mask to breath in space. The list goes on.

This is a none fight and I cant believe that people down Sentry so much when supes feats are much worse.

Originally posted by carver9
This thread should be closed, it took 10 kryptonians to stop a moon and they still was unable to slow it down. As of right now thor>>>>>>Superman.

We go from superman needing the aid of a gl to move the planet earth from superman needing to go light speed in order to destroy a moon and then still got koed. From konvikt one shotting him, to wonder woman having superior reflexes to 10 krytonians being unable to even slow a moon down, to him wearing a air mask to breath in space. The list goes on.

This is a none fight and I cant believe that people down Sentry so much when supes feats are much worse.

Total Fail!!!
Read both of the issue before you try and use it against a character. It can make you look...stupid if you are wrong!

- It wasn't Earth that Superman and GL were just pulling
- The moon had special properties and superman wasn't going speed of light
- the other moon had technology backing it up

You should be banned for your trolling

Originally posted by carver9
This thread should be closed, it took 10 kryptonians to stop a moon and they still was unable to slow it down. As of right now thor>>>>>>Superman.

We go from superman needing the aid of a gl to move the planet earth from superman needing to go light speed in order to destroy a moon and then still got koed. From konvikt one shotting him, to wonder woman having superior reflexes to 10 krytonians being unable to even slow a moon down, to him wearing a air mask to breath in space. The list goes on.

This is a none fight and I cant believe that people down Sentry so much when supes feats are much worse.

Originally posted by Badabing
facepalm

You, get back in your corner.

wtfawe

sneer

Originally posted by xJLxKing
facepalmfacepalmfacepalmfacepalmfacepalm

Total Fail!!!
Read both of the issue before you try and use it against a character. It can make you look...stupid if you are wrong!

- It wasn't Earth that Superman and GL were just pulling
- The moon had special properties and superman wasn't going speed of light
- the other moon had technology backing it up

You should be banned for your trolling

I'm not trolling and the only reason you think I am is because you dont like what was said.

When was it stated that superman was koed because the moon had special properties?

So you are basically saying that the moon weighed more due to its special properties. Can you prove this?

Originally posted by Badabing

How are you doing bada, long time no see?

toss up.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm not trolling and the only reason you think I am is because you dont like what was said.

When was it stated that superman was koed because the moon had special properties?

So you are basically saying that the moon weighed more due to its special properties. Can you prove this?

Content!

Originally posted by xJLxKing
The moon was going nearly the speed of light
then there is the fact that Superman didn't want to go Speed Of light.

Content!

Superman stated that he was hitting the speed of light to destroy the moon, thats how he destroyed it. 😕

Can you please show me in the comic where it stated that it was a certain type of property in the moon that koed superman.

JLking, I noticed something about you, you like adding things to comics that was never even stated or thought about from the writer that wrote the book. Where in the hell did you get from those scans or comic that the moon was going the speed of light?

Originally posted by carver9
How are you doing bada, long time no see?

Originally posted by Badabing
Doing good. You?

I'm straight, I didnt miss those smileys though but I guess it is something that I earned. 🙁

Originally posted by carver9
Superman stated that he was hitting the speed of light to destroy the moon, thats how he destroyed it. 😕

Can you please show me in the comic where it stated that it was a certain type of property in the moon that koed superman.

JLking, I noticed something about you, you like adding things to comics that was never even stated or thought about from the writer that wrote the book. Where in the hell did you get from those scans or comic that the moon was going the speed of light?

The moon is dark matter
Superman stated that it he was APPROACHING THE SPEED OF LIGHT, but he will NOT hit SOL.

Please read and don't just look at the pretty picture