Who wrote the Wonder Woman and Superman comparison Raoul? The entire Ulsain Bolt, Bruce Lee moment with Batman again? McDuffie?
I recall their being an argument with the writer of that issue on some board, between Diana and Clark or something and next issue we had this comparison. If I'm right someone was butt sore.
Sometimes it feels like comics are using a "vs. forum" set up. Eventually it'll be fanboys writing for fanboys methinks.
Originally posted by -Pr-This. I've been reading quite a bit of Superman the last few years. Actually a big fan of the New Krypton storyline. But I don't know what you're referring to when you state he's reacted at light speed. Do you have examples in mind?
superman can and has reacted at light speed, even within the last three years.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Who wrote the Wonder Woman and Superman comparison Raoul? The entire Ulsain Bolt, Bruce Lee moment with Batman again? McDuffie?I recall their being an argument with the writer of that issue on some board, between Diana and Clark or something and next issue we had this comparison. If I'm right someone was butt sore.
Sometimes it feels like comics are using a "vs. forum" set up. Eventually it'll be fanboys writing for fanboys methinks.
yup, yet another gem from mcduffie. man doesn't know shit about half the characters he writes.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
This. I've been reading quite a bit of Superman the last few years. Actually a big fan of the New Krypton storyline. But I don't know what you're referring to when you state he's reacted at light speed. Do you have examples in mind?
final crisis, when he sees barry for the first time. it's not the first time he's processed information at lightspeed though.
in up, up and away (2006), he was able to follow and interpret electronic signals travelling at the speed of light.
Originally posted by -Pr-Barry and Wally were approaching light speed in that scene of Final Crisis. And frankly, all the Anti-Life people reacted to them too.
final crisis, when he sees barry for the first time. it's not the first time he's processed information at lightspeed though.in up, up and away (2006), he was able to follow and interpret electronic signals travelling at the speed of light.
Seeing things going at light speed doesn't equate to being able to react and move your body at light speed. That argument has been made against Silver Surfer plenty of times and it's a cogent one. And following electronic signals, do you have scans?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Barry and Wally were approaching light speed in that scene of Final Crisis. And frankly, all the Anti-Life people reacted to them too.Seeing things going at light speed doesn't equate to being able to react and move your body at light speed. That argument has been made against Silver Surfer plenty of times and it's a cogent one. And following electronic signals, do you have scans?
i disagree about the FC stuff, tbh.
and yeah, one sec...
^ Well... that's "reacting" to lightspeed, but not with physical movement. Moving your body physically to exceed light speed is harder than processing light speed movement. Same as I can follow a lot of things going on in a video game, but I cannot necessarily react fast enough to do anything about it.
Or maybe my standards for FTL combat speed are just higher than others.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Well... that's "reacting" to lightspeed, but not with physical movement. Moving your body physically to exceed light speed is harder than processing light speed movement. Same as I can follow a lot of things going on in a video game, but I cannot necessarily react fast enough to do anything about it.Or maybe my standards for FTL combat speed are just higher than others.
i didn't say he was reacting in that panel. i said follow and interpret. 😛
Originally posted by zeelAgreed. Thor's power level and skill level is on another level than Superman's along with his experience and warrior like mentality. Supes has him barely beat in durability imo and strength is too close to call although I favor Superman.
thats a bunch of crap man. i dont care how fast supes is.The supes fan boys always result to SPEED casue thats all supes has on thor. And it aint enough.
50/50 at best id place bets on thor though if he fights smart.
Thor craps on him if he gets to use his full array of powers.
Originally posted by xJLxKingAre you sure? I thought Superman achieved light speed to do the deed as the faster he went made it possible! Exclamation points are so annoying.
The moon was going nearly the speed of light
then there is the fact that Superman didn't want to go Speed Of light.Content!
Also how much Thor have you read do properly weigh in here?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusYep. Thor is on a whole other level powerwise.
There is no comparison. And his just flat out a lot more powerful than Superman.
i don't agree that Thor is that much more skilled than Superman. Experience wise? Sure, but it's worth remembering that Superman himself waged war in DC's Asgard for a thousands years, leading an army when DC's Thor was taken out of the fighting. Superman isn't exactly a newcomer.
He's no slouch at all when it comes to fighting skills, having trained with Batman and Wonder Woman.
Originally posted by -Pr-I read that and I don't think experience is a deciding factor at all. Supes has been in just as many dogfights as Thor, but his mentality is completely different. Thor's people actually grew restless and bored when living above oklahoma due to no threats being around.
i don't agree that Thor is that much more skilled than Superman. Experience wise? Sure, but it's worth remembering that Superman himself waged war in DC's Asgard for a thousands years, leading an army when DC's Thor was taken out of the fighting. Superman isn't exactly a newcomer.He's no slouch at all when it comes to fighting skills, having trained with Batman and Wonder Woman.
They are all warriors and would actually rather die in battle than sit at home at peace. It's insane but Thor is their leader and foams at the mouth in battle while Supes can throw down with the best of them but would live a very happy life if things were peaceful. Just saying that this gets factored in somewhat.
We can argue over percentages but no one is saying Thor doesn't have the edge there. Supes main trump is speed while Thor's is power level imo.
Everything else like strength and durability are pretty much neck and neck.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Agreed. Thor's power level and skill level is on another level than Superman's along with his experience and warrior like mentality. Supes has him barely beat in durability imo and strength is too close to call although I favor Superman.Thor craps on him if he gets to use his full array of powers.
Are you sure? I thought Superman achieved light speed to do the deed as the faster he went made it possible! Exclamation points are so annoying.
Also how much Thor have you read do properly weigh in here?
Yep. Thor is on a whole other level powerwise.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I read that and I don't think experience is a deciding factor at all. Supes has been in just as many dogfights as Thor, but his mentality is completely different. Thor's people actually grew restless and bored when living above oklahoma due to no threats being around.They are all warriors and would actually rather die in battle than sit at home at peace. It's insane but Thor is their leader and foams at the mouth in battle while Supes can throw down with the best of them but would live a very happy life if things were peaceful. Just saying that this gets factored in somewhat.
We can argue over percentages but no one is saying Thor doesn't have the edge there. Supes main trump is speed while Thor's is power level imo.
Everything else like strength and durability are pretty much neck and neck.
i honestly disagree. yes, thor is a born and bred warrior, but when things get bad, superman can hang with the best of them.
