Superman vs Thor (Full-Potential Battle)

Originally posted by Spire
No your confused.

I'm getting scans of your lol.

Valkyrie and Thor are two different characters. Superman would be fighting Thor.

Anyone could dream up a fantasy creation being super tough as well big deal.

Why? I have all the scans. Hell, I'll post them.

But go ahead. I just re-read it. She didn't just go toe to toe with Gamora, she gained the advantage and downed her.

Yes they are two different characters, but Valkyrie is a creation of Thor's psyche. She wasn't even real and simply created by Thor's mind, until Moondragon brought her to reality.

*Sigh*

Where do you think her knowledge of combat and fighting came from? Thor.

Honestly, all this attempt to discredit the showing because it ruins your Superman wanking is hilarious.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Why? I have all the scans. Hell, I'll post them.

But go ahead. I just re-read it. She didn't just go toe to toe with Gamora, she gained the advantage and downed her.

Yes they are two different characters, but Valkyrie is a creation of Thor's psyche. She wasn't even real and simply created by Thor's mind, until Moondragon brought her to reality.

*Sigh*

Where do you think her knowledge of combat and fighting came from? Thor.

Honestly, all this attempt to discredit the showing because it ruins your Superman wanking is hilarious.

LOL.

Originally posted by Spire
Uber Skill.

Silver Surfer>Valkyrie>Moondragon

Easily.

She beat Moondragon. That's impressive.

What the hell does Silver Surfer have to do anything with this? What, did you expect her to beat him with superior fighting skills?

Lol.

Oh and "Silver Surfer > Superman" so I don't see how that matters either way.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
She beat Moondragon. That's impressive.

What the hell does Silver Surfer have to do anything with this? What did you expect her to beat him with superior fighting skills?

Lol.

Oh and "Silver Surfer > Superman" so I don't see how that matters either way.

So basically just back pedaling then?

Cool, Thor and Valkyrie are two different characters.

I would expect Valkyrie who has Uber fighting skills(which is really Thor, a brunette woman fantasy complete with fantasy skills, favorite colors, etc.) to actually use them.

Kind of like when Gamora said to Thor. "You can't hurt what you can't catch."

Originally posted by Spire
So basically just back pedaling then?

Cool, Thor and Valkyrie are two different characters.

I would expect Valkyrie who has Uber fighting skills(which is really Thor, a brunette woman fantasy complete with fantasy skills, favorite colors, etc.) to actually use them.

Kind of like when Gamora said to Thor. "You can't hurt what you can't catch."

Valkyrie is a creation of Thor's psyche. She would have gotten the skills from no where but Thor. Too think otherwise is just plain stupid. Thor must be the greatest fighter ever, because apparently he can just invent hand to hand skills on the spot, amirite? You're argument is complete bullshit.

I knew you were going to bring up Gamora. He missed her once and he can't hit her? He must have rocked her hard, as she forgot the other times Thor knocked her on her ass with ease earlier on.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Valkyrie is a creation of Thor's psyche. She would have gotten the skills from no where but Thor. Too think otherwise is just plain stupid. Thor must be the greatest fighter ever, because apparently he can just invent hand to hand skills on the spot, amirite? You're argument is complete bullshit.

I knew you were going to bring up Gamora. He missed her once and he can't hit her? He must have rocked her hard, as she forgot the other times Thor knocked her on her ass with ease earlier on.

I could dream up a character that is more powerful than Silver Surfer. If brought to life it would be a problem.

Originally posted by Spire

I could dream up a character that is more powerful than Silver Surfer. If brought to life it would be a problem.

When it's against Superman it's always something.

You're own argument doesn't even make sense.

So you're saying Thor can invent and dream up Martial Arts skill on the spot?

Shit watch out Iron Fist. Next time Thor is powerless, he'll think off a new Martial Arts and hand you, you're ass.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
When it's against Superman it's always something.

So you're saying Thor can invent and dream up Martial Arts skill on the spot?

Thor can think whatever he wants.

Could have been a rat with wings and shape shifting powers.

You are reaching.

Do you honestly not see the difference between imagining a character and their physical traits such as imagining a red super strong Thor, than imagining a character who had legit martial art's skills and knowledge? It's one think of imagining the physical attributes, it's another filling the mind with knowledge, as if you do not have said knowledge then where the hell is the character going to get said knowledge from. She didn't pull those fighting skills, out of thin air.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Do you honestly not see the difference between imagining a character and their physical traits such as imagining a red super strong Thor, than imagining a character who had legit martial art's skills and knowledge? It's one think of imagining the physical attributes, it's another filling the mind with knowledge. She didn't pull out those fighting skills, out of thin air.

I see someone trying to argue Valkyrie throwing Moondragon is Thor's feat.

I also see someone arguing this throwing of Moondragon by someone that is not Thor makes it Thor>>>>Superman in fighting skill.

Okay I'm done explaining it to this guy. He doesn't want to understand what I'm saying.

Someone can try and get a shot, but if it's trying to prove, "Thor > Superman" in anyway it'll be reaching.

Even if you have shit like a powerless Thor knocking out a Class 40 in a brawl with his superior skill.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Okay I'm done explaining it to this guy. He doesn't want to understand what I'm saying.

Someone can try and get a shot, but if it's trying to prove, "Thor > Superman" in anyway it'll be reaching.

Even if you have shit like a powerless Thor knocking out a Class 40 in a brawl with his superior skill.

Lol.

You don't even know what your talking about.

First its Valkyrie pwnd Moondragon and Gamora and Supes needs to beat Val powerless to compare -

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Valkyrie only fought Moondragon

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Valkyrie only threw Moondragon

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Whateva i'M done!

Originally posted by Spire
Lol.

You don't even know what your talking about.

First its Valkyrie pwnd Moondragon and Gamora and Supes needs to beat Val powerless to compare -

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Valkyrie only fought Moondragon

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Valkyrie only threw Moondragon

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Whateva i'M done!

What the ****?

Quote me where I said Valkyrie "pwned" Moondragon or Gamora. I said she held her own against Gamora and defeated Moondragon. Then after re-reading it I said she not only defeated Moondgragon, she also gained the advantage over Gamora.

Where the hell did I say, that Valkyrie fought only Moondrago, or Valkyrie only threw Moondragon?

What bullshit. Now you're just making crap up. I don't want no bullshit dodge. Quote me.

And once again that was an emphasize to show impressive those showings of hand to hand were. Holy shit, now you're just being plain stupid.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What the ****?

Quote me where I said Valkyrie "pwned" Moondragon or Gamora. I said she held her own against Gamora and defeated Moondragon. Then after re-reading it I said she not only defeated Moondgragon,she also gained the advantage over Gamora.

Where the hell did I say, that Valkyrie fought only Moondrago, or Valkyrie only threw Moondragon?

What bullshit. Now you're just making crap up. I don't want no bullshit dodge. Quote me.

And once again that was an emphasize to show impressive those showings of hand to hand were. Holy shit, now you're just being plain stupid.

Obviously I was being sarcastic..... No need to rage, Rage.

She didn't fight Gamora, only Moondragon. She only tossed her. Wow. Surfer easily disposed of her.

Done.

Lul!

For a second I almost thought this was a Valkyrie v Superman H2H skill thread.

Valkyrie is Thor. Valkyrie's feat is Thor's.

So much clearer now.....

Originally posted by Spire
Obviously I was being sarcastic..... No need to rage, Rage.

She didn't fight Gamora, only Moondragon. She only tossed her. Wow. Surfer easily disposed of her.

Done.

So you made bullshit accusations, dug yourself a hole and now are trying to pass it off as sarcasm? Gotcha.

What is it with you and trying to discredit anything with Thor? Are you really that butt hurt because his easily more powerful than Superman?

Lulz. Only tossed her. She went toe to toe with her and defeated her. The method she used was throwing her ass into Gamora. Superman jabs a guy a few times and it's an impressive showing according to some. Someone with legit hand to hand showings like Moondragon being defeated and it' ain't impressive.

So what if Surfer easily disposed of her? What's that prove? You aren't beating Norrin with superior hand to hand skills if you don't have the stats to even match him.

It pay's off to read the comics. She fought and put down Gamora for about 2 pages.

Done? You mean you're done with your bullshit.

Thor ftw

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So you made bullshit accusations, dug yourself a hole and now are trying to pass it off as sarcasm? Gotcha.

What is it with you and trying to discredit anything with Thor? Are you really that butt hurt because his easily more powerful than Superman?

Lulz. Only tossed her. She went toe to toe with her and defeated her. The method she used was throwing her ass into Gamora. Superman jabs a guy a few times and it's an impressive showing according to some. Someone with legit hand to hand showings like Moondragon being defeated and it' ain't impressive.

So what if Surfer easily disposed of her? What's that prove? You aren't beating Norrin with superior hand to hand skills if you don't have the stats to even match him.

It pay's off to read the comics. She fought and put down Gamora for about 2 pages.

Done? You mean you're done with your bullshit.

Lol, no hole was dug but your own. I could easily go point for point if I wanted to. My wording was sarcastic, but the points were not.

Oh ok, I thought that was Thor's fist that hit her. She threw Moondragon defeating her. Surfer easily disposed of her.

None of this matters as I've said before, Valkyrie and Thor are two different characters.

"Fantasy meets reality"

Valkyrie's feats are not Thor's.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
She beat Moondragon. That's impressive.

What the hell does Silver Surfer have to do anything with this? What, did you expect her to beat him with superior fighting skills?

Lol.

Oh and "Silver Surfer > Superman" so I don't see how that matters either way.

in your dreams. uhuh

bloody weakness exploitation.

Originally posted by Spire
Lol, no hole was dug but your own. I could easily go point for point if I wanted to. My wording was sarcastic, but the points were not.

Oh ok, I thought that was Thor's fist that hit her. She threw Moondragon defeating her. Surfer easily disposed of her.

None of this matters as I've said before, Valkyrie and Thor are two different characters.

"Fantasy meets reality"

Valkyrie's feats are not Thor's.

Uhuh. Whatever you say pall.

It wasn't. So what? She defeated one of the best hand to hand fighters in comics by going toe to toe with her and using a throw move. Does it make it any less valid? No.

So what? What did you expect? And you act like it's a low showing. You know, Norrin has the capabilities to easily dispose of Clark if he felt like it.

Two different character's yes, but Valkyrie's showings of Martial Art's would apply to Thor's knowledge of Martial Arts. You can't imagine a character and implant them with knowledge and skill if you do not have them in the first place. That wouldn't even make sense.

Valkyrie's showings of hand to hand skill are.