Originally posted by HewhoknowsallI did say I might be wrong about this, as long as the Vaapad user can control him/her self. Aka, Mace. I guess that is the case, however I don't know if theres a limit.
So:Loop comes into effect if DS user is stronger.
So if LS user is weaker, then the loop will make him equal.
If LS user is stronger...then, well, he's stronger, loop isn't needed.
So a Vapaad user will always be either equal to or superior to any DS user?
Originally posted by mattatom
Okay. Vaapad channels the users Inner Darkness notice the inner bit there. So it's jsut as effective againt a Lightsider and Darksider. UNLESS, the darksider is more powerful than the user at that moment in time then the SCL kicks in and allows the Vaapad user to equal them. *I think.
Originally posted by mattatom
I did say I might be wrong about this, as long as the Vaapad user can control him/her self. Aka, Mace. I guess that is the case, however I don't know if theres a limit.
Originally posted by ares834"You're the chosen one, Anakin," Mace said, his voice going thin with strain. This was beyond Vaapad; he had no strength left to fight against his own blade. "Take him. It's your destiny.'" -From the Novel. Maybe it was just the Force of his lightning since Mace was handling himself before that.
I seem to recall in the RotS novelization that it says that Mace's fight against Palps was beyond Vaapad, and his superconducting loop was pushed to its limit. I don't have the book on me right now so I don't have the quotes, I'll post them up a bit later whn I can find my book.
Originally posted by wolfpack86That would have to allow for fluctuating power levels and etcetera. Though it would mean that we wouldn't be able to complain about unknowns as much 🙁
What do you guys think of starting two "official" stickied threads based on force power and saber skills, to give everyone a gauge on each characters abilities? It could include everyone and anyone that uses a lightsaber or the force.
Originally posted by wolfpack86
What do you guys think of starting two "official" stickied threads based on force power and saber skills, to give everyone a gauge on each characters abilities? It could include everyone and anyone that uses a lightsaber or the force.
Originally posted by truejedi
this is kinda like the end of Project Holocron where I'm (still kinda currently) listing every feat of the force, or in combat for each character. Right now, school is kicking my butt, but i'll get back to it eventually. Helping was not forbidden!
What's Project Holocron? Sounds interesting.
Originally posted by truejedi
i'll bump it. Its in the lit. and expanded universe forum.
Thanks, I checked it out. What I was thinking of however was more of a ranking system. For the lightsaber skills thread for example, you could have a ranking system from 1-20, with a predetermined amount of fact based votes deciding each character's "official" skill rating.
Which forum do you guys think would be best for such a thread?
What's up with all this confusion about Vaapad?
See, - represents the Dark Side and + represents the Light Side. The Vaapad user automatically has his own - to use through Vaapad, but when it comes to opponents, he can use this loop against a - guy while he can't use it against a + guy because he doesn't channel the + guy his peace and passive emotions, he does however channel the - guy his rage and fury. Thus, Vaapad is more effective against - than +.
Mace can beat Sidious, but he can't beat Yoda.
Originally posted by Slash_KMCThere was no confusion i fixed it 🙂
What's up with all this confusion about Vaapad?See, - represents the Dark Side and + represents the Light Side. The Vaapad user automatically has his own - to use through Vaapad, but when it comes to opponents, he can use this loop against a - guy while he can't use it against a + guy because he doesn't channel the + guy his peace and passive emotions, he does however channel the - guy his rage and fury. Thus, Vaapad is more effective against - than +.
Mace can beat Sidious, but he can't beat Yoda.
Originally posted by wolfpack86
Thanks, I checked it out, what I was thinking of however was more of a ranking system. For the lightsaber skills thread for example, you could have a ranking system from 1-20, with a predetermined amount of fact based votes deciding each character's "official" skill rating.
But doesn't that kinda destroy the idea of creating Versus threads, when you already know what rank every character has.
Originally posted by Slash_KMC
But doesn't that kinda destroy the idea of creating Versus threads, when you already know what rank every character has.
No, debates could still be made in the versus forum, it would just be a "what the community thinks" as a whole thread, so that maybe there wouldn't be quite so many spite/illogical threads. Plus I would think most people would find such a thread quite interesting and informative.
Originally posted by Slash_KMCThe only idea I can think of is that he imagines the SCL works on Lightsiders as well which it doesn't. Else I don't have any idea what he means.
I still want to read Red's new thesis about Vaapad though, as he claims I'm wrong about Vaapad being less effective against lightsiders than darksiders.
This is pretty much what's taken as "common knowledge."