Greatest Lightsaber Duelist

Started by Slash_KMC8 pages

So, can Mace use the superconducting loop to copy his opponents Force Power, when the opponent is a Light Sider?

Wouldn't think so. I thought the second half of the loop was the opponent's Darkness reflected.

he can use his own inner darkness however.

I'm planning on contesting the media of the loop. The idea of power-levels as the determinant for the nature of Vaapad is silly. Does it go by midichlorians? That seems weak. And if not, then how does one quantify superior strength in the Force? [Which would be necessary to figure out how the 'loop would apply in each case.]

Most of you people are so limited in your knowledge that you forget about the old republic. What about Jedi master Raskta Lsu? Lord Kas'im?
Both were the greatest swordsmen of their time. Alot of people never seem to give credit to them. Kas'im train Bane. Bane killed Raskta and Kas'im. My opinion is one of those 3 are the best? Anyone agree?

Now apparently ancient Sith Lords were generally greater swordsmen at the time of Tulak Hord than most Jedi and Sith at the time of the Old Republic series, and Tulak Hord was the best of them. I don't know if many of the Sith of that era were more skilled because they were more prodigiously talented in lightsaber combat like Luke Skywalker, or if they just were simply more thoroughly trained like Kas'im.

League 1: Lotf/Fotj Luke
League 2: Rots Yoda, DE Sidious, DoE Bane,
League 3: Rots Mace, Rots Sidious, Totj Exar Kun, Kas'im

And the Leagues keep getting bigger, but weaker. Point is, Luke takes this.

lEaGuE 1: Kas'im, Raskta Lsu, Tulak Hord
LeAgEu 2: Darth Maul, Yoda etc.
....
LeaGUE 27: Obi-Wan.

If everyone had the same maximum agility, who would win then? Everyone had different styles and only one of them is ever listed as being ambidextrous? Nick Gillard said

Originally posted by Dolos
Now apparently ancient Sith Lords were generally greater swordsmen at the time of Tulak Hord than most Jedi and Sith at the time of the Old Republic series, and Tulak Hord was the best of them. I don't know if many of the Sith of that era were more skilled because they were more prodigiously talented in lightsaber combat like Luke Skywalker, or if they just were simply more thoroughly trained like Kas'im.

I'll note that the KotoR era Jedi/Sith had a fairly strong focus on force powers compared to some other eras. Especially if you read the Tails of the Jedi series, you'll see saber combat take something of a back seat, especially in major conflicts.

On the flip side, Kas'im's era, and the Clone Wars, saber combat takes the forefront and force powers are more in the back seat.

It's a pendulum that swings back and forth.

So I'd say Tulak Hord came from an era of the Sith Empire when swordplay was dominant.

Originally posted by Q99
I'll note that the KotoR era Jedi/Sith had a fairly strong focus on force powers compared to some other eras. Especially if you read the Tails of the Jedi series, you'll see saber combat take something of a back seat, especially in major conflicts.

On the flip side, Kas'im's era, and the Clone Wars, saber combat takes the forefront and force powers are more in the back seat.

It's a pendulum that swings back and forth.

So I'd say Tulak Hord came from an era of the Sith Empire when swordplay was dominant.


There really needs to be something done with Hord story-wise because as of now there's really no canon to go on about his actual abilities, no?

Originally posted by Ascendancy
There really needs to be something done with Hord story-wise because as of now there's really no canon to go on about his actual abilities, no?

Yea, not really.

Heck, Kreia could be wrong about him, people love to exaggerate stuff because it's old, when really ancient sith matched up against modern force users normally don't dominate.

In theory even if he only used metallic blades he could possibly be skilled enough to engage a saber duelist, but again without any real establishment of his actual prowess it's short-sighted to throw him in as one of the greatest.

Tulak Hord was a lightsaber master, as is stated repeatedly in TOR. Also in Tor, according to Khem Val when the Inquisitor sees the ruins of the Endar Spire, "The great Tulak Hord once pulled a ship this size from the sky." So the guy was pretty beastly in all aspects.

Mace Windu
Sidious
Yoda

Project Holocron sounds interesting,I would like to know more about it.
Maybe we can share info on Vaapad.

I wasn't paying attention to the date of this thread,so Project Holocron might be gone...so look over that last post by me. so who knew Sidious would kill Savage?

RIP Savage, he had so much potential.

Originally posted by TheOneOfMortis
lEaGuE 1: Kas'im, Raskta Lsu, Tulak Hord
LeAgEu 2: Darth Maul, Yoda etc.
....
LeaGUE 27: Obi-Wan.
Bro, Obi Wans a legend. Show a bit of respect.