when spiderman fought DD with he was angry careless and was trying to hurt kill DD but was making rookie mistakes that DD was able to exploit.
another moment ppl like to use for spidey is his back in blk fight with kingpin who isnt an MA fighter nor possess any peak attribute other then possibly his strength..
just cause spidey was capable of dancing around kingpin doesnt mean he can do the same to a peak human with vast combat MA experience that can read his opponents and lead him...
spidey has trouble with MA fighters b/c get this most ppl will be shocked he isnt a competent fighter. he gets led around by them they think and plan three moves ahead of spidey..
spidey SS counter the attack just so he can jump flip into another attack...
spidey has agility and jumping power and strength but if he brings it close to h2h he loses all of his advantages but one...
jumping around and acting like a spider and tossing web balls might help him survive against middle aged or senior metas who have no MA skills of their own who also soley rely on whatever power they have.
but it wont safe him from killer MA fighters with peak possibly enhanced abilities with reaction counter abilities... who can kill with one attack.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
another moment ppl like to use for spidey is his back in blk fight with kingpin who isnt an MA fighter nor possess any peak attribute other then possibly his strength..just cause spidey was capable of dancing around kingpin doesnt mean he can do the same to a peak human with vast combat MA experience that can read his opponents and lead him...
How about Spidey beaten Taskmaster 2 times AFTER he already defeated a few of his men?
Originally posted by Wild ShadowKinping is a martial artist and a very good one seeing as he holds legit wins over Captain america Red skull and Daredevil .
when spiderman fought DD with he was angry careless and was trying to hurt kill DD but was making rookie mistakes that DD was able to exploit.another moment ppl like to use for spidey is his back in blk fight with kingpin who isnt an MA fighter nor possess any peak attribute other then possibly his strength..
just cause spidey was capable of dancing around kingpin doesnt mean he can do the same to a peak human with vast combat MA experience that can read his opponents and lead him...
spidey has trouble with MA fighters b/c get this most ppl will be shocked he isnt a competent fighter. he gets led around by them they think and plan three moves ahead of spidey..
spidey SS counter the attack just so he can jump flip into another attack...
spidey has agility and jumping power and strength but if he brings it close to h2h he loses all of his advantages but one...
jumping around and acting like a spider and tossing web balls might help him survive against middle aged or senior metas who have no MA skills of their own who also soley rely on whatever power they have.
but it wont safe him from killer MA fighters with peak possibly enhanced abilities with reaction counter abilities... who can kill with one attack.
A Spiderman going full out and not holding back tore him a new ass.
Originally posted by kikioshiroIn all those fights spiderman was not using his full powers .
how about spidy losing to daredevil, black cat, elektra, kingpin,captain america, black panther, blade.... he is getting butt raped when he fights MA guys
What dont you understand about the fact that Spiderman rarely uses his full strength against street levelers
Originally posted by godking
A Spiderman going full out and not holding back tore him a new ass.
a spider man going all out needed something like 20 strikes to take down king pin and even then king pin wasnt knocked out he was just beaten and bleeding and you cant argue that spider man wasnt hitting him with all his foce because he wenty all out 😉
Originally posted by godking
In all those fights spiderman was not using his full powers .What dont you understand about the fact that Spiderman rarely uses his full strength against street levelers
where is it stated? is that your own speculatin that suit you as a spidy fanboy when ever you have to defend him? you just throw the "holding back" card? i want you to prove me tyhat in each of those fights it was stated that he is holding back
if someone is holding back he will avoid hurting the other oponnent but he wont let the oponnent beat him up so you are sayting spider-man let all those people beat him up on purpose now? thats dumb
Originally posted by godking
Kinping is a martial artist and a very good one seeing as he holds legit wins over Captain america Red skull and Daredevil .A Spiderman going full out and not holding back tore him a new ass.
i know kingpin has some MA skills from sumo/grabbling and some hand/yakuza training.. but his MA fighting style is using his girth and strength not agility or speed... being able to grab his opponent and crush them b/c they needed to get close to punch him but couldnt hurt him due to his mass doesnt mean kingpin is the better fighter..
same could be argued for spidey/venom/gorgon being highly skilled MA fighter b/c they use powers to their advantage but we know that isnt true... 😎
Originally posted by Wild ShadowApples and oranges Kingpin has legit martial arts training and has been written to be suprisingly fast ever since the characters creation.
i know kingpin has some MA skills from sumo/grabbling and some hand/yakuza training.. but his MA fighting style is using his girth and strength not agility or speed... being able to grab his opponent and crush them b/c they needed to get close to punch him but couldnt hurt him due to his mass doesnt mean kingpin is the better fighter..same could be argued for spidey being a highly skilled MA fighter b/c he uses powers to his advantage but we know that isnt true... 😎
Spiderman is not a trained martial artist hist stats still put him far above streetlevelers when he goes all out.
Originally posted by kikioshiro
where is it stated? is that your own speculatin that suit you as a spidy fanboy when ever you have to defend him? you just throw the "holding back" card? i want you to prove me tyhat in each of those fights it was stated that he is holding backif someone is holding back he will avoid hurting the other oponnent but he wont let the oponnent beat him up so you are sayting spider-man let all those people beat him up on purpose now? thats dumb
It's stated in Amazing Spider-man 424 page 18 the one where he lifts a train...
Originally posted by kikioshiroHe wants to win against them not kill them.
where is it stated? is that your own speculatin that suit you as a spidy fanboy when ever you have to defend him? you just throw the "holding back" card? i want you to prove me tyhat in each of those fights it was stated that he is holding backif someone is holding back he will avoid hurting the other oponnent but he wont let the oponnent beat him up so you are sayting spider-man let all those people beat him up on purpose now? thats dumb
None of those fights with those martial artists where fights where he wanted to kill them .
Originally posted by kikioshiro
a spider man going all out needed something like 20 strikes to take down king pin and even then king pin wasnt knocked out blah blah blah
spidey is a 20 tonner, you seriously believe kingpin took 20 of spider-mans ALL-OUT punches with no PIS involved.
Are you retarded?
Pissed off spidey smashed KP in 1 panel, next?
Originally posted by kikioshiroKingpin lasted as long as he dead because spiderman wanted to humiliate him not kill him.
a spider man going all out needed something like 20 strikes to take down king pin and even then king pin wasnt knocked out he was just beaten and bleeding and you cant argue that spider man wasnt hitting him with all his foce because he wenty all out 😉
Originally posted by Juk3n
spidey is a 20 tonner, you seriously believe kingpin took 20 of spider-mans ALL-OUT punches with no PIS involved.Are you retarded?
Pissed off spidey smashed KP in 1 panel, next?
ohhh the hypocrisy you know i always love how spider-man fanboys always bring this fight witrh king pin as an example of how good spider-man is, in that fight with king pin spider-man beat him up and king pin couldnt even topuch him that shows good agility speed and reflex but when i stated the fact that iot took spider-man close to 20 hits to take king pin out suddenly its a PIS Lol STFU and GTFO you moron , and spider-man is class 10 just like beast and weapon x sabretooth and class 10 is not a big deal at all
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