Spiderman vs Mr. X

Started by Wild Shadow5 pages

the only thing i have bn trying to push into ppl's skulls in forum battles is that SS is not a legitimate automatic win against any hero regardless of physical stats..

i am so tired of hearing ppl argue that his constant beatings and loses are all pis and for story purposes and he is holding back every other ability as well as strength...

i scratch my head since i have read over 30 yrs of his stories and he isnt written pecked as being untouchable by any one person and even writers have stated certain limit to his abilities....

he is basically a reluctant unskilled hero who's powers allows him to compete with actual trained skilled and powered heroes...

no more no less.. 📖 😬

Ss? U mean sm?
And if you mean sm... Do you mean s&m?
If so..... Behaveeeeeeeesaid to the tone of Austin powers...

Spiderman beat up hulk while thing and electro watched by dropping a building on him...
Spiderman beat up firelord and I think mentioned it in a recent comic,..

So when a guy like cap, who I love... Beats spiderman... I call it that 1/10 chance or one in twenty and he got lucky... Maybe the day before spiderman was tired and all bruised from fighting hulk or something. Point is spider could toss a car at mr x. Web his foot and swing him into a building. It don't matter. Unless spiderman is gonna just stand there and take it... He wins 9/10

I can't believe this went over two pages.

Originally posted by rotiart

Spiderman beat up hulk while thing and electro watched by dropping a building on him...
Spiderman beat up firelord and I think mentioned it in a recent comic,..

It was a truck and for some reason Hulk could not lift it......and this goes against almost every single fight the two have had, most of the time he can at best stall Hulk.

Firelord fight is actually the definition give on the site for pis......

Originally posted by rotiart

when a guy like cap, who I love... Beats spiderman... I call it that 1/10 chance or one in twenty and he got lucky... Maybe the day before spiderman was tired and all bruised from fighting hulk or something.

It was his Ideal and Spiderman has shown that skilled MA's give him a shit load of trouble. Let a long Capt who has speed marginally slower then spidermans.

Originally posted by rotiart
is spider could toss a car at mr x. Web his foot and swing him into a building. It don't matter. Unless spiderman is gonna just stand there and take it... He wins 9/10

The odds of Spiderman throwing a car ins unlikely and even more so that it even hit, it target. There a good chances Spiderman would rush him blindly, which is the last thing Spiderman wants to do.

This portion of my post is for the general thread. Mister X would be one of Spiderman's most dangerous opponents. Spider-sense is an amazing ability and all around better then Mister X impulses reading ability, but in a fight like this it not. While Spiderman is getting cries of alarms telling his reflexes to dodge, Mister X is locked onto Spidermans impulses give on and his body reflexively counters and dodges every attack spiderman throughs. It makes him almost untouchable. Then he has the ability to actually read spiderman mind, so he knows what he going to do several moves before he does it as his body reflexively dodges and counters each attack. Now for those who think X reflexes and speed are not up for the match I like to point out that he posses enough raw speed to completely speed blizt taskmaster and appear of him infront. he also showed the reflexes to deflect every one of Black Widows bullets with ease, which is the most impressive bullet deflection feat to date. It did not block some no named cannon fodder by highly trained MA with peakhuman level stats with decades upon decades of experiences more so then most Marvel MA's and was trained to kill since but a young child.

i think sm style might actually help him. mr x is perfect to match up against ma's reading their minds/moves but sm fights mainly off instinct, and doesnt really plan many moves in advance instead he kinda goes with the flow. i think it still would be a good fight, factor in petes webbing and id give him 7 or 8 out of 10.

Originally posted by Raptor22
i think sm style might actually help him. mr x is perfect to match up against ma's reading their minds/moves but sm fights mainly off instinct, and doesnt really plan many moves in advance instead he kinda goes with the flow.

Spidy plans moves out, he simply just not a skilled fighter or overly talented tactician. He very rarely relies on pure instinct. Mr. X is so good verse pretty much anyone, no matter there skill level is because his body reflexively blocks and evades ever attack his opponent throws while allow him to read there mind for any openings, or to simply attack with out fear knowing his body reflexively will block the attacks. Also does not hurt to be master of numerous styles including those of shiar and skrull MA.

Originally posted by Raptor22
think it still would be a good fight, factor in petes webbing and id give him 7 or 8 out of 10.

I disagree, for one Taskmaster has shown how easily a skilled MA can cut the webbing, not to mention numerous others have shown to dodge it. I also don't believe a blood lusted spiderman would even think of using the webbing in anyway intelligent fashion to win the fight. He tends to rush in swinging, which is great vs bricks he normal has gone blood lusted on, but not so good vs guy with mister x abilities.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
the only thing i have bn trying to push into ppl's skulls in forum battles is that SS is not a legitimate automatic win against any hero regardless of physical stats..

i am so tired of hearing ppl argue that his constant beatings and loses are all pis and for story purposes and he is holding back every other ability as well as strength...

i scratch my head since i have read over 30 yrs of his stories and he isnt written pecked as being untouchable by any one person and even writers have stated certain limit to his abilities....

he is basically a reluctant unskilled hero who's powers allows him to compete with actual trained skilled and powered heroes...

no more no less.. 📖 😬

I see what you mean, and noone here says that Spider-man's untouchable, everybody get hit once in a while. (I think even characters that can go intengible) but look at the 30 years of Spidey comix that you've read and think of this:
Spider-man's been shot at a billion times. How many times he's been hit? He fought hundreds and hundreds (smetimes literally over 100 alltogether) thugs, ninjas, warriors with guns, swords and MA skills on top and he'd win the fights without getting shot or cut even ONCE. Yeah, he gets hit pretty often but would you buy a book where the main villain doesnt even lay a finger on the hero and hero comes out of every story without a scratch? Yeah, he gets hit, but when it comes to dodging he has more feats than anyone else in marvel, he's like marvel dodging machine. And he has the speed advantage over almost any streetleveler and a lot of great showings against MA experts. Even when the MA expert has a sword or a gun. All im saying that Spider-man in his peak can fight even someone like IF without getting tagged. Just something to think about.