Kingpin is a great MA fighter that can hold his own and even beat guys like DD, Red Skull and Cap America. You saw how much his MA skills helped him against pissed off Spider-man. Slightly pissed Spider-man effortlessly beat Taskmaster, pissed off Parker knocked out Matt Murdoc with one punch who started the fight in the first place, when he fought Iron Fist the first time IF couldnt tag him once during the fight, the second time they fought he had to use a trap in order to hit Parker ONCE, the rest of his attacks Spider-man easilly dodged and even used IF's own move against him, pissed off Spider-man took down Bullseye withing a second after being tortured for hours and while he could barely stand, he was beating Deadpool without much trouble. And in EVERY example i've mentioned he was STILL holding back. He ends this fight with one punch. Wont be easy because of X's ability, but he definitely wins.
Originally posted by kikioshiro
spider-man has a very crapy durability we all saw jigsaw breaking his arm and we all saw spider-mnan breaking his arm fighting iron fist he has low durability and he is clumsy when fighting MA guys he will lose
Oh shut up sock, your hatred and ignorance about the character is becoming famos around this forum. That wasn't supposed to be Jigsaw, was artists mistake, the guy who broke his arm was a superhuman with strength way above Spider-man's, the artist and writer both confirmed it. Wanna talk about his durability, read books where he takes punches from the likes of Hulk, Juggernaut and other class 100 and gets back up like nothing happened, not to mention lifting weight way over his class 10 range. Or just read a book or two and dont embarrass yourself any further.
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4063/71864733.jpghttp://img25.imageshack.us/img25/6980/82953069.jpghttp://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8175/59686734.jpgOh and btw during that fight with Kingpin he WAS holding back, he didnt want to kill him during that fight, he said that himself. Check What IF back in black and see what happens when he DOESN'T hold back against trained MA fighters like Kingpin.