Originally posted by leonidasbut dint Supe break his bones or somethin?
yep, but i don't think the destroyer is simply going to 'punch him out'. you may believe that, and that's your opinion, but i don't see that happening.
DD become more resistent to physical damage but never 100% resistent his physical durablity stays pretty much the same
IMO its stalemate in a slugfest between DD & destroyer cuz DD shoud regenarate fast enough if he get hurt
Originally posted by leonidas
hmm, that's rather open to interpretation. 😬if it wasn't ko'd or at least incapacitated in SOME manner, how did the host escape from it?
Knocking it down broke the destroyers grip over the guys consciousness long enough for it to escape. Also note that prior to that point, the destroyer hesistated slightly due to the guys friend pleading with him to stop. The narration then alluded to the words of the friend touching the soul of the guy within the destroyer enough for him to cause the hesistation. Hence the guy within at this point was struggling with the destroyer for control over his own consciousness. In the midst of this struggle thor hit the destroyer down and that provided the opportunity to escape.
Originally posted by h1a8
That is why it is called enchanted Uru. And it was by purely physical force that Mjolnir done this. If Destroyer was stronger then Mjolnir would have broke upon impact (by your argument).
Originally posted by h1a8
We are not talking about scratching things but denting and tearing them. Is my knuckle harder than steel plate? If no, then why can I dent it? Good try though.
Metals, stone, do not have much give at all. If they hit something harder then them, they will crack, they will dent.
Originally posted by King Kandy
When has regular Thor ever damaged the destroyer with Mjolnir?Your knuckle is not hard and unyielding. It has give. It's structure is compromised when hitting something harder, but it immediately springs back so you never will notice. Try it. Poke your hand a few times, the skin IS "dented" but instantly returns to normal.
Metals, stone, do not have much give at all. If they hit something harder then them, they will crack, they will dent.
What are you talking about? Hardness has little to nothing to do with denting something. I could take an iron, or smooth stone hammer and dent the steel plate without a scratch or dent to the hammer. I could take a brick and ram it sideways into some thin steel plate and not a blemish would be on the brick.
Surface Area, thickness, and hardness are just some of the factors in determining when an object can dent another, not hardness alone. Hell there all some metals tougher than others but are more malleable.
Before you know it, heat vision will go straight through Juggernaut's shields.
Imperiex probes turned out to be jobbers and nothing more. They're like the freaking anti-bodies Ego procudes or Galactus' punishers. Zomfg in the first appearance and then, not so much 😐
Originally posted by psycho gundam
superman from owaw was pretty damn impressive to me, either the writers nerfed him in the konvikt debacle or he was on roids in owaw. *shrugs*owaw supes would have eaten konvikt for breakfast.
OWAW Superman was not nerfed for Konvikt, what the hell. He's was strong for a brief period and then it stopped. We've seen glimpses of his skills then, but it's mostly gone. Nor do I see the big difference in Superman's behaviour. He was allowed to kill the Imperiex Probes. Superman doesn't kill humanoids, there's no logical reason why he would fight that way against living creatures.
Originally posted by SoulDevourer
no but your making crapiest argument by sayin teh writers made a unique weapon ALL 4 NOTHING (since its weaker then somethin which earth can make in large quantity (adamatium))i mean if so-call "legendary" hammer is weaker then somethin which can be mass-produce on earth then what is it that make it legendary? oh yeah thats right NOTHIN 😂 so basicaly your sayin the writers did this all for nothin & ****ed up big time
m'man, the 'writers' spent as MUCH time making cap's shield every BIT as 'legendary' as thor's hammer, and they have gone to a lot more trouble stating over and over again that it is indestructible. so . . . did all THOSE writers f up too?? can't believe you can't see how ludicrous your argument is . . .
dint he use a cube for that too?
no. and if he had, it was humanity that figured out how to create the first cosmic cube . . .
i wuz talkin about adamantium not the sheild
huh? 😕
you said cap's shield is as thick as mjollnir in the middle . . . i suppose you're acknowledging the idiocy of that statement . . .?
yeah Caps sheild is unique (even more then mjolnir!) so MAYBE it coud be harder then the hammer at least that woud be acceptable 🙂
(but it aint harder IMO)
i think i hear an angel singing somewhere!!!! the boy has seen the light!! 😱
i'll agree it's close and respect your opinion (who'd a thunk it?? 😄 ) and disagree with it.
i can also agree with the idea that a slugfest could very well end in a stalemate. the only option would be for dd to evolve some form of attack we've never seen from him before that would allow him to destroy the armor itself or attack the host.
btw destroyer armor aint thick cuz its hollow im prety sure they showed it onpanel somewere 🤨
it only needs to house a soul. it is hollow, but that doesn't mean it isn't thick. not sure we've seen the width of its armor shown on-panel. possible, but i don't recall it off-hand.
Originally posted by Naija boy
[B]Knocking it down[/qb]
meh, it had been knocked down previously in the battle.
Also note that prior to that point, the destroyer hesistated slightly due to the guys friend pleading with him to stop.
yep. i said in my first post it was briefly distracted . . .
The narration then alluded to the words of the friend touching the soul of the guy within the destroyer enough for him to cause the hesistation. Hence the guy within at this point was struggling with the destroyer for control over his own consciousness. In the midst of this struggle thor hit the destroyer down and that provided the opportunity to escape.
yep. but had thor not done . . . SOMETHING (he certainly did some harm) to the destroyer, the soul inside couldn't have escaped.
Originally posted by leonidasthat argument wasnt about the sheild (it wuz about adamatium only) try pay more atention to topic k?
m'man, the 'writers' spent as MUCH time making cap's shield every BIT as 'legendary' as thor's hammer, and they have gone to a lot more trouble stating over and over again that it is indestructible. so . . . did all THOSE writers f up too?? can't believe you can't see how ludicrous your argument is . . .
i said i agree the sheild is legendery in fact its even MORE legendery then the hammer cuz its one of a kind and the hammer aint
not that i say the sheild is harder but at least that woud make SOME sense so i coud accept that 🙂
i only say the hammers harder cuz everytime the sheild & hammer meet, sheild gets damaged & not the hammer. coincidance? 😉
actualy i wuz gonna edit to "allmost as thick" but the fockin 15 minute rule ment i coudnt edit so blame the forum & not me 😠 😠
you said cap's shield is as thick as mjollnir in the middle . . . i suppose you're acknowledging the idiocy of that statement . . .?
Originally posted by leonidasi dunno that armor kinda look like the knight armors from medeval periods like a giant tincan or somethin
it only needs to house a soul. it is hollow, but that doesn't mean it isn't thick. not sure we've seen the width of its armor shown on-panel. possible, but i don't recall it off-hand.
i mean it cant posibly be thick orelse how coud it move? not practical esp. in combat 😬
Originally posted by SoulDevourer
that argument wasnt about the sheild (it wuz about adamatium only) try pay more atention to topic k?
😂
my original post was regarding cap's shield. i never made any mention at all about adamantium, so how about instead of ME staying on topic, YOU try to read a post or 2 once in a while. 🙂
i said i agree the sheild is legendery in fact its even MORE legendery then the hammer cuz its one of a kind and the hammer aint
not that i say the sheild is harder but at least that woud make SOME sense so i coud accept that 🙂
the writers at marvel are probably writing their thank yous to you right now . . .
i only say the hammers harder cuz everytime the sheild & hammer meet, sheild gets damaged & not the hammer. coincidance? 😉
you've never been able to understand the issue here, eh? maybe one day . . . anyway, again--the hammer is far thicker AND is delivering the force. the shield is absorbing it. ouallada, h1 and i have all tried explaining it to you, but you just . . . don't get it. dontgetit
i wonder what a hammer made of the shield's alloy could do to mjollnir if mjollnir were laid flat on the ground and thor swung the alloy hammer with all his might at mjollnir? i have a pretty good idea of what would happen . . .
actualy i wuz gonna edit to "allmost as thick" but the fockin 15 minute rule ment i coudnt edit so blame the forum & not me 😠 😠
stop writing before you think and these things wouldn't happen. 😄
Originally posted by leonidasi showd a scan where sheilds way thicker then u say, how bout u show a scan where it shows your right? 🙄you've never been able to understand the issue here, eh? maybe one day . . . anyway, again--the hammer is far thicker
AND is delivering the force. the shield is absorbing it. ouallada, h1 and i have all tried explaining it to you, but you just . . . don't get it.nope its u guys who dont get it tho i try sevral times : its a COLISION
i wonder what a hammer made of the shield's alloy could do to mjollnir if mjollnir were laid flat on the ground and thor swung the alloy hammer with all his might at mjollnir? i have a pretty good idea of what would happen . . .yup yup 1 of 2 things, ether both hammers break, or only sheild-alloy-hammer breaks 😄
Originally posted by leonidas? dunno about grey gargoyle
thing. grey gargoyle. colossus.😐
Originally posted by leonidas
meh, it had been knocked down previously in the battle.yep. i said in my first post it was briefly distracted . . .
yep. but had thor not done . . . SOMETHING (he certainly did some harm) to the destroyer, the soul inside couldn't have escaped.
Yeah i know he had to do something, what im saying is that the destroyer wasnt koed. Thors hit on the destroyer at that point broke its grip on the mans consciousness and allowed the man to escape because he was at that time struggling for control within the destroyer and the fact that hercules had just found his real body. The destroyer had been knocked down previously in the battle but the host consciousness was completely under the destroyers control on those previous occasions so it couldnt have escaped.
Therefore the conditions that made the escape possible were the host struggling for control over his consciousness and causing the hesistation because of his friends appeal,the finding of the host body by hercules and bringing it to the battlefield,...and then thors strike on the destroyer which knocked it down and gave the host the chance to escape back into his body.
These conditions wouldnt apply if the host was willingly controlling the destroyer and hence wouldnt be struggling to escape.
Originally posted by SoulDevourer
i showd a scan where sheilds way thicker then u say, how bout u show a scan where it shows your right? 🙄
😆
the shadow of the shield DID confuse you, eh? if you are seriously telling me you think the shield is as think as the hammer, i may well report you for sheer stupidity. and i've never reported ANYONE before . . .
nope its u guys who dont get it tho i try sevral times : its a COLISION
ever herd of somethin call INERTIAL FRAME OF REFERENCE? 💃
sure, but i also know YOU don't know what it means. as alwasys everyone EXCEPT you is wrong. what else is new? 🙄
yup yup 1 of 2 things, ether both hammers break, or only sheild-alloy-hammer breaks 😄
(prolly both break)
then let's say the alloy hammer has been made to be several times larger/thicker than mjollnir. or let's flatten mjollnir to a couple inches thick and leave the alloy hammer's size unchanged. you probably STILL think the alloy hammer would break eh? see, pointless, hence end of argument.
it's been every bit as funny as it's always been.
Originally posted by SoulDevourer
? dunno about grey gargoyle
thing & colosus not same thing
nether of them are armor platin. even colosus metal aint rigid its just...malable...like carbonadium IMO
btw check the shoulder plates on destroyer it clearly shows their thin, the rest of armors prolly the same 😎
why aren't thing and gargoyle the same again? both are solid stone but mve just fine. and . . . colossus's armor is "malleable??" 😐
seriously, you really should be banned for propagating stupidity and as a preventative measure against a kmc wide retardation pandemic.
Originally posted by Kris Blazei see you stopped reading after "supes was nerfed to fight konvikt".
OWAW Superman was not nerfed for Konvikt, what the hell. He's was strong for a brief period and then it stopped. We've seen glimpses of his skills then, but it's mostly gone. Nor do I see the big difference in Superman's behaviour. He was allowed to kill the Imperiex Probes. Superman doesn't kill humanoids, there's no logical reason why he would fight that way against living creatures.