Destroyer Armor Vs. Doomsday

Started by SoulDevourer8 pages

Originally posted by leonidas
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the shadow of the shield DID confuse you, eh? if you are seriously telling me you think the shield is as think as the hammer, i may well report you for sheer stupidity. and i've never reported ANYONE before . . .

say u ammesic or somethin i said ALMOST 🙄
"shadow" lulz k prove its a shadow show ANTOHER scan wich shows how thick is the sheild if u can 😎
sure, but i also know YOU don't know what it means.
so basicly u dont know wut it means 😂
as alwasys everyone EXCEPT you is wrong.
yo guess what u got somethin right! 😄
then let's say the alloy hammer has been made to be several times larger/thicker than mjollnir. or let's flatten mjollnir to a couple inches thick and leave the alloy hammer's size unchanged. you probably STILL think the alloy hammer would break eh? see, pointless, hence end of argument.

it's been every bit as funny as it's always been.

yo first u gotta prove the sheilds way thinner then the hammer
cmon d00d just a scan, a bio, anythin...O WAIT U CANT CUZ MAYBE IT AINT TRUE HUH? 💃
Originally posted by leonidas
why aren't thing and gargoyle the same again? both are solid stone but mve just fine. and . . . colossus's armor is "malleable??" 😐

yeah maleable u know like silver surfers amor, like oposite of "rigid"? 🙄
seriously, you really should be banned for propagating stupidity
U MEAN FOR QUOTING UR POSTS? 💃 💃

stop lying, you're not that dumb.

lol at this shield being as thick as hammer nonsense

Originally posted by leonidas
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the shadow of the shield DID confuse you, eh?

k so thats wut i ment see i made dat pic just 4 u :

its call a CROSSECTION

KThor dentin the sheild & this scan showin crossection of the sheild is teh main reason why im sayin the hammers stronger

IMO it dont look like its only shadow or somethin 😮
if u got better scan showin how thick is the sheild then go ahead 😎

Er Soul devourer, is that scan ur showing supposed to be ur instance of King Thor dentin the shield with mjolnir?

no this after RKT use his HV or somethin on the sheild
i also posted scan of KT dentin the sheild...ima see if i can find the link again

so u think the sheild is harder then the hammer?

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
no this after RKT use his HV or somethin on the sheild
i also posted scan of KT dentin the sheild...ima see if i can find the link again

so u think the sheild is harder then the hammer?

Not Rune King Thor, just King Thor.

It's been a year or so and you still haven't learned the difference.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
stop lying, you're not that dumb.

have you met him? 😐

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
k so thats wut i ment see i made dat pic just 4 u :

its call a CROSSECTION

KThor dentin the sheild & this scan showin crossection of the sheild is teh main reason why im sayin the hammers stronger

IMO it dont look like its only shadow or somethin 😮
if u got better scan showin how thick is the sheild then go ahead 😎

good gawd. you really can NOT be as dumb as you come across here. seriously.

look how the 'black' (anyone with above toilet bowl level intelligence would call it a SHADOW!!) extends BEYOND the shield at the bottom. so, what, the bottom/inside of the shield extends BEYOND it's rim now??

you gotta just be playin, but i don't get why you'd WANT everyone to think you're as dumb as you are pretending to be. in truth though, no one's buying it i don't think. why? cuz NO ONE can be that dumb.

anyhow, just in case, reported for stupidity AND back on ignore. your posts hurt my eyes.

Originally posted by leonidas

more shit not worth quotin & blah blah

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aint me fault those dumb****s dont know how 2 draw things right

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Not Rune King Thor, just King Thor.
i ment the part where he use his HV blast on the sheild (not the one where he dent it)
that wuz RUNE king thor he stil had the runes right? 🤨

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
i ment the part where he use his HV blast on the sheild (not the one where he dent it)
that wuz RUNE king thor he stil had the runes right? 🤨

Happened years before Thor learned about runes.

lol

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
k so thats wut i ment see i made dat pic just 4 u :

its call a CROSSECTION

KThor dentin the sheild & this scan showin crossection of the sheild is teh main reason why im sayin the hammers stronger

IMO it dont look like its only shadow or somethin 😮
if u got better scan showin how thick is the sheild then go ahead 😎

😂 love it!

keep up the good work. 👆

^ Cap's shield dimensions are pretty straightforward. It's shaped like a discus. The middle portion isn't really that much thicker than the outer portions.

Originally posted by Galan007
a.) the heroes the imperiex probe owned were defending earth. to assume they were half-ass fighting goes against their very nature. furthermore, most of the heroes involved in that saga were written quite uber - for instance, that's the same arc kyle held a big bang in, etc.

b.) keep in mind that along with the heroes previously mentioned, darkseid and the whole of apokolips, mongul and the whole of war world, zod and his guard, etc. were easily swatted to the side by probes.

c.) during "doomsday wars" [which took place roughly 3-4 years before OWAW], doomsday collectively owned kyle, flash, orion /w/ astro force, j'onn, dianna, plastic man, superman, etc. with a ridiculous amount of ease. thus, it's perfectly logical to assume he was >> the combined JLA, based on previously established feats.

a.) I don't remember any hero being written uber other than Superman or Kyle. And Kyle's OWAW-connected one-shot specifically focused on his unconscious tapping into the Ion power.

b.) Really? I'm not being sarcastic, as I find your interpretations to be quite solid most of the time, but I don't remember them being swatted.

c.) Considering that Superman was surpassing Doomsday in OWAW and clearly not doing so in Doomsday Wars, I think you're conflating the two performances.

Originally posted by h1a8
It has been noted that a few beings are key to the stability of reality are immune to the Omega Effect. This is why Superman has survived it. Cyborg has Superman's dna and is the reason he survived it too.
Omega Effect hasn't worked on heat vision, Green Lantern forcefields, Wonder Woman's bracelets, etc.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
c.) Considering that Superman was surpassing Doomsday in OWAW and clearly not doing so in Doomsday Wars, I think you're conflating the two performances.
that portion of my post focused solely on doomsday, and was meant to explain the fact that a previous [and therefore, technically inferior] version of him [doomsday wars] had already beaten the combined JLA. that said, his OWAW version should have been even >. [which certainly explains why he was able to easily shred through the same general imperiex probes that owned the collective JLA.]

i also wonder how you gathered that superman was surpassing doomsday in OWAW..?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Omega Effect hasn't worked on heat vision, Green Lantern forcefields, Wonder Woman's bracelets, etc.
...firestorm's construct. 😗

Originally posted by Galan007
that portion of my post focused solely on doomsday, and was meant to explain the fact that a previous [and therefore, technically inferior] version of him [doomsday wars] had already beaten the combined JLA. that said, his OWAW version should have been even >. [which certainly explains him easily shredding through the same general imperiex probes that owned the collective JLA.]

i also wonder how you gathered that superman was surpassing doomsday in OWAW..?

Doomsday was depicted as one-shotting the Imperiex probes in the brief action montage scene. Trying to correlate the relative ownage between the two scenes is still too wide for me to accept under the purview of suspension of disbelief. I think most people recognize that the Imperiex probes were initially presented as uber when shown individually but immediately fell victim to the general Red Shirt Effect/Inverse Ninja Law whereby they became less formidable and much more vulnerable as soon as they showed up in larger numbers.

Superman survived Imperiex handblast. Doomsday was incinerated. Superman was also fighting far longer than Doomsday and still kept pace with him.

Originally posted by Galan007
...firestorm's construct. 😗
Forgot about that. Still makes me facepalm.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Doomsday was depicted as one-shotting the Imperiex probes in the brief action montage scene. Trying to correlate the relative ownage between the two scenes is still too wide for me to accept under the purview of suspension of disbelief. I think most people recognize that the Imperiex probes were initially presented as uber when shown individually but immediately fell victim to the general Red Shirt Effect/Inverse Ninja Law whereby they became less formidable and much more vulnerable as soon as they showed up in larger numbers.

Superman survived Imperiex handblast. Doomsday was incinerated. Superman was also fighting far longer than Doomsday and still kept pace with him.

i understand where you're coming from. however, i cannot recall it ever being stated that the imperiex probes grew weaker as OWAW progressed. thus i believe it's more logical to assume their power levels stayed consistent throughout the ordeal.

that's incorrect, actually. imperiex' blast never touched supes..

after atomizing doomsday, imperiex fires a blast at superman:
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6936/imp0.jpg
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2042/imp1k.jpg
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BUT... before the blast could destroy him, he was teleported to apokolips via darkseid:
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/7995/imp2.jpg
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/843/imp3v.jpg
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8932/imp5.jpg

Originally posted by Galan007
i understand where you're coming from. however, i cannot recall it ever being stated that the imperiex probes grew weaker as OWAW progressed. thus i believe it's more logical to assume their power levels stayed consistent throughout the ordeal.
The absence of any express proof that the Imperiex probes were being nerfed does not nullify the obvious presentation of the comic. The Red Shirt Effect/Inverse Ninja Law is never expressly stated. It's just how things work from a writer's perspective when you realize that you need to create suspense and/or pull away from the enormity of the odds your own writing has created for itself. Writers compromising their plot and/or characters for convenience is neither a novel, nor forbidden idea.
Originally posted by Galan007
that's incorrect, actually. imperiex' blast never touched supes..

after atomizing doomsday, imperiex fires a blast at superman:
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6936/imp0.jpg
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2042/imp1k.jpg
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BUT... before the blast could destroy him, he was teleported to apokolips via darkseid:
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/7995/imp2.jpg
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/843/imp3v.jpg
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8932/imp5.jpg

I've always personally made a moderate allowance for the possibility that the scan should be interpreted as Superman being teleported as he was being blasted by Imperiex and not before. Especially considering that Superman's cape survives the blast, so why wouldn't Superman himself be able to survive it for a short time before he's teleported?

But it's somewhat validating to know that you agree with my initial interpretation that Superman was saved and never tanked the same blast that Doomsday took since that interpretation is something that I've actually strenuously argued myself in other Superman vs. threads in the past.

Either way, Superman was fighting long before Doomsday came on and Superman was keeping pace if you wish to debate this further.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
The absence of any express proof that the Imperiex probes were being nerfed does not nullify the obvious presentation of the comic. The Red Shirt Effect/Inverse Ninja Law is never expressly stated. It's just how things work from a writer's perspective when you realize that you need to create suspense and/or pull away from the enormity of the odds your own writing has created for itself. Writers compromising their plot and/or characters for convenience is neither a novel, nor forbidden idea.
superman stated that his 'cutting loose' is what was allowing him to destroy the probes alongside doomsday. he also stated that IF he had 'cut loose' when the probes attacked earth, many lives could have been saved. to me that implies the probes were written consistently the same.

either way, i'm not going to assume things.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I've always personally made a moderate allowance for the possibility that the scan should be interpreted as Superman being teleported as he was being blasted by Imperiex and not before. Especially considering that Superman's cape survives the blast, so why wouldn't Superman himself be able to survive it for a short time before he's teleported?

But it's somewhat validating to know that you agree with my initial interpretation that Superman was saved and never tanked the same blast that Doomsday took since that interpretation is something that I've actually strenuously argued myself in other Superman vs. threads.

Either way, Superman was fighting long before Doomsday came on and Superman was keeping pace if you wish to debate this further.

superman was 'spared the killing blow' [stated by the black racer.] doomsday was not. that instance is not a prime indicator that supes was > doomsday [to me at least.] equal to? sure. but greater? not imo.