Silver Surfer and Hal Jordan vs. Thor and Superman

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OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

Originally posted by ColossusGrundy
Hal Ko'd Supes after he gave up the Parallax power the first time, he took Kyle's ring and KO'd Supes with it.

John took out Supes himself once. A GOOD GL is nothing to underestimate. I admit most of the now 7200 are scrubs, but Hal and the like are in a league of their own.

I don't recall him saying he was giving up the Parallax power or limiting himself. Although he hadn't had his power fully replenished by Ganthet until after the fight, it's debatable whether he was also using his residual Parallax energies or not. Also, and much more importantly, the mullet haircut Superman was sporting clearly made him weaker.

When did Stewart take out Superman?

Kris Blaze Restricted
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
When did Stewart take out Superman?

Rebirth, hit Superman's eyes with two beams.

It was a complete cheap shot though.

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

^ He did hurt him, but I don't recall Superman being KO'ed.

Konton Homo Magi

Team 1.

SS > Thor > Hal = Superman

StyleTime Senior Member

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ He did hurt him, but I don't recall Superman being KO'ed.

It's hard to determine whether Superman was unconscious or not. The scene changed after Superman hit the ground. Hal's ring later shows John had time to take down the other heroes present and gain a hold of Wonder Woman during Kal's recovery though. If Superman wasn't koed, he was rocked pretty hard.

UniOmni Outrageously Dickish

Superman was out. Reread Rebirth.

Team one loses.

Philosophía "The devil made me do it"

There's no evidence of Superman being knocked out.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Still a difference between fighting an ally you don't want to hurt and being confused of the situation and stuff, and being in a forum battle against them too.

Kris Blaze Restricted

While some might think that seeing as you can't really flex your eyeballs, being able to prepare for the attack wouldn't have made a difference. But there is no way John would've been able to eye-laser an aware Superman. The attack might have done as much damage, but Superman has his own set of lasers.

No GL is eye-blasting Supes when he's firing his heat vision.

StyleTime Senior Member

I don't think anyone denies it was a cheap shot that may not achieve the same goal under different circumstances. In fact, the trick is nigh useless if Superman fights back.

Still, Superman was functionally out of the battle for at least a small amount of time.

-Pr- Hey Yo!

Supes wasn't even looking for a fight. He was trying to figure out if John was ok. People trying to use this as some sort of feat is laughable imo.

Kris Blaze Restricted
Originally posted by -Pr-
Supes wasn't even looking for a fight. He was trying to figure out if John was ok. People trying to use this as some sort of feat is laughable imo.

Like we've established for the millionth time, John attacked Superman when he was unaware. You don't need to reinforce that once again.

But like I also said, if that attack landed on an aware Superman, what could he do? Kal could stop the attack from reaching him with his heat vision and speed. But this doesn't say anything about his durability, if an attack like that did strike him again, it would affect him in just the same manner. But an attack like that won't hit him again, not here.

-Pr- Hey Yo!

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Like we've established for the millionth time, John attacked Superman when he was unaware. You don't need to reinforce that once again.

But like I also said, if that attack landed on an aware Superman, what could he do? Kal could stop the attack from reaching him with his heat vision and speed. But this doesn't say anything about his durability, if an attack like that did strike him again, it would affect him in just the same manner. But an attack like that won't hit him again, not here.

pr1983

Kris Blaze Restricted
Originally posted by -Pr-
pr1983

Is he going to flex his eyes?

xJLxKing Senior Member

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Like we've established for the millionth time, John attacked Superman when he was unaware. You don't need to reinforce that once again.

But like I also said, if that attack landed on an aware Superman, what could he do? Kal could stop the attack from reaching him with his heat vision and speed. But this doesn't say anything about his durability, if an attack like that did strike him again,[b] it would affect him in just the same manner. But an attack like that won't hit him again, not here. [/B]


No, you are wrong

Kris Blaze Restricted
Originally posted by xJLxKing
No, you are wrong

About what?

xJLxKing Senior Member
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
About what?
But this doesn't say anything about his durability, if an attack like that did strike him again, it would affect him in just the same manner
Kris Blaze Restricted
Originally posted by xJLxKing

What would be different?

It's his eyes.

xJLxKing Senior Member

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
What would be different?

It's his eyes.


Eye lids! flinching of the muscles around the eye

-Pr- Hey Yo!

Anyone who seriously wants to contend that John could take Superman has this beauty to contend with:

so, yeah...