Playing god

Started by Omega Vision7 pages

Originally posted by Lord Feron
People do get smarter "our ability to understand reality has gotten better over time" that's an elaborate way of saying it but essentially the same. A child learning is him exploring his reality/world and learning is the same thing the human race has been doing but at a higher level. We discover things and see how they work. We build upon that so yes Humans have gotten smarter since the medieval. Ppl did some seriously ****ed up shit just to cook, get better from sickness, and other fairly basic thing that they did totally backwards.

And yet if I dropped you in Papua New Guinea I imagine you'd feel rather stupid compared to the uneducated people who live there because they can survive there and you can't. Intelligence doesn't increase over time it just changes form. The majority of intelligent people are morons in a lot of subjects while "simple people" are rather adept when it comes to their areas of expertise. Do you know how to forge a suit of chainmail? Probably not but a "medieval moron" blackmith could. On your point of medicine: have you ever taken some pill that you knew nothing about but you decided to take it anyway because your doctor prescribed it? If so then its proof that people still aren't any smarter than when they took leaches to cure infections.
Superman would still appear to be a God to most people today because though we act like we know better now we're still ready to believe anything.

You have a point there.

It takes far more intelligence to start science from scratch than it does to develop scientific theory which the person who came before you identified.

Some of the things the Medieval types did require a high degree of intelligence. Today we have gps satnav and maps The medieval guys did it all from zilch developing and using the star system as a foolproof navigation system.

The designs they made with moving parts like clocks and windmills/turbines, weapons etc are pretty much unchanged Today.

As A christian God Superman would fail.
The Christian God has complete access to all of an individual's thoughts.

Superman wouldn't be able to fulfill this aspect of God.

If Superman was addressing a crowd with some people who speak only language x/ y, some who are bilingual (x+y) and travellers passing through town who only speak language c, and have been briefly seperated from their guide would everyone hear Superman as if he was speaking to them in their tongue? Would the deaf be able to hear God speak to Them? Would Superman be able to open blind people's eyes or Answer someone who summoned him silently?

With their enhanced capacity for pattern recognition the Medieval Earthers would recognise him as a fake.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
And yet if I dropped you in Papua New Guinea I imagine you'd feel rather stupid compared to the uneducated people who live there because they can survive there and you can't. Intelligence doesn't increase over time it just changes form. The majority of intelligent people are morons in a lot of subjects while "simple people" are rather adept when it comes to their areas of expertise. Do you know how to forge a suit of chainmail? Probably not but a "medieval moron" blackmith could. On your point of medicine: have you ever taken some pill that you knew nothing about but you decided to take it anyway because your doctor prescribed it? If so then its proof that people still aren't any smarter than when they took leaches to cure infections.
Superman would still appear to be a God to most people today because though we act like we know better now we're still ready to believe anything.
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Originally posted by Omega Vision
All of them could IMO for Medieval Europe.
Who is Utah? Is it a misspelling of Uatu?
I don't know about him but as for Modern America all but Superman, Thanos, and Darkseid could pass for the Christian God. Mostly because in the first case he's clearly not even close to all knowing and in the other two cases their lack of moral character would betray them.
As for Star Wars I'd say that LT and pr Beyonder are the only ones powerful enough to convince a Universe that has next to no religion (seriously the only religious ppl in Star Wars are seen as backward and kooky force worshipers) that they're God. I don't say Thanos because again if you're talking the Christian God he would be way too abusive to pass.
Thanos with the IG can make people believe what he wants them to believe.

Thanos with IG easily pulls it off

Originally posted by Omega Vision
And yet if I dropped you in Papua New Guinea I imagine you'd feel rather stupid compared to the uneducated people who live there because they can survive there and you can't. Intelligence doesn't increase over time it just changes form. The majority of intelligent people are morons in a lot of subjects while "simple people" are rather adept when it comes to their areas of expertise. Do you know how to forge a suit of chainmail? Probably not but a "medieval moron" blackmith could. On your point of medicine: have you ever taken some pill that you knew nothing about but you decided to take it anyway because your doctor prescribed it? If so then its proof that people still aren't any smarter than when they took leaches to cure infections.
Superman would still appear to be a God to most people today because though we act like we know better now we're still ready to believe anything.

wait I think were talking about different things. There is knowledge and smarter. There are different schools of knowledge and stuff like that. I do believe humans actually get smarter by using their brain more.

Like a muscle with greater use of our brain, we do increase our "smart/intelligence." I applied that idea to us using our brain more and overall. Just saying Smart does not equal knowing everything everything. It is teh ability to store, calculate, retrieve information from our brain.

I do agree with you on the last part. There are still alot of either dumb people who believe anything and there are people who need to believe in something but are otherwise well educated people.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
wait I think were talking about different things. There is knowledge and smarter. There are different schools of knowledge and stuff like that. I do believe humans actually get smarter by using their brain more.

Like a muscle with greater use of our brain, we do increase our "smart/intelligence." I applied that idea to us using our brain more and overall. Just saying Smart does not equal knowing everything everything. It is teh ability to store, calculate, retrieve information from our brain.

I do agree with you on the last part. There are still alot of either dumb people who believe anything and there are people who need to believe in something but are otherwise well educated people.


We stand on the shoulders of giants, that's why we appear to be smarter than those that came before us.

Anyways...

I honestly don't know if the Star Wars Universe would accept any being as a God, they'd probably look at the Living Tribunal and say "oh he's just incredibly skilled in the force"

Originally posted by Omega Vision
We stand on the shoulders of giants, that's why we appear to be smarter than those that came before us.

Anyways...

I honestly don't know if the Star Wars Universe would accept any being as a God, they'd probably look at the Living Tribunal and say "oh he's just incredibly skilled in the force"

Thanos with IG pulls it off easily

Originally posted by Omega Vision
We stand on the shoulders of giants, that's why we appear to be smarter than those that came before us.

Anyways...

I honestly don't know if the Star Wars Universe would accept any being as a God, they'd probably look at the Living Tribunal and say "oh he's just incredibly skilled in the force"


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Originally posted by godking
Thanos with IG pulls it off easily

It isn't about power, it's about morality. Thanos would be far too petty to be accepted as the true God.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
It isn't about power, it's about morality. Thanos would be far too petty to be accepted as the true God.
He still pulls it of he is basically omnicient with the IG And if he choses to reward those who believe in him and punish those who dont believe in him the majority would consider him god not a nice god but still god.

Originally posted by godking
He still pulls it of he is basically omnicient with the IG And if he choses to reward those who believe in him and punish those who dont believe in him the majority would consider him god not a nice god but still god.

Still doesn't convince anyone he's the Christian God.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
It isn't about power, it's about morality. Thanos would be far too petty to be accepted as the true God.

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Originally posted by Lord Feron
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Christian God. not Old-Testament "God hates ****" God.

The christian god is a dick. Like superman when he uses to screw with Jimmy olsen.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
And yet if I dropped you in Papua New Guinea I imagine you'd feel rather stupid compared to the uneducated people who live there because they can survive there and you can't. Intelligence doesn't increase over time it just changes form. The majority of intelligent people are morons in a lot of subjects while "simple people" are rather adept when it comes to their areas of expertise. Do you know how to forge a suit of chainmail? Probably not but a "medieval moron" blackmith could. On your point of medicine: have you ever taken some pill that you knew nothing about but you decided to take it anyway because your doctor prescribed it? If so then its proof that people still aren't any smarter than when they took leaches to cure infections.
Superman would still appear to be a God to most people today because though we act like we know better now we're still ready to believe anything.

I think it depends on how you measure intelligence. And also how much experience you have doing something. It's possible those ignorant intelligent people could become as good, or better, faster than anyone in any field they currently don't know anything in. Or maybe not. It's hard to separate experience and intelligence in something. Is that mechanic good because he's got an awesome analytical mind when it comes to machines or is it just because he's been doing it for 20 years?

We really specialize in stuff nowadays though so it's not really surprising that we know less about some things. We just have to rely on the word of the professionals.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
I think it depends on how you measure intelligence. And also how much experience you have doing something. It's possible those ignorant intelligent people could become as good, or better, faster than anyone in any field they currently don't know anything in. Or maybe not. It's hard to separate experience and intelligence in something. Is that mechanic good because he's got an awesome analytical mind when it comes to machines or is it just because he's been doing it for 20 years?

We really specialize in stuff nowadays though so it's not really surprising that we know less about some things. We just have to rely on the word of the professionals.


Alright but my point that people aren't smarter today than they were in medieval times stands regardless, people are just for the most part more educated.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
I highly doubt that Superman can fool the majority of us today, he isn't anywhere near omnipotent.
Lol?

Sure he is, by any modern definition.

If a man descended from above, displaying the power to be anywhere he wants to be at once, to see and hear anything on earth, to "squint and see the ends of the universe", to be able to accomplish any physical feat imaginable...

the christian faith cites walking on water as a miracle. Kal-El can superheat the oceans by looking at them.

If such a figure descended from above with every intention of fooling the world to believe he was God, people would laugh til they cried if you claimed he wasn't omnipotent.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Lol?

Sure he is, by any modern definition.

If a man descended from above, displaying the power to be anywhere he wants to be at once, to see and hear anything on earth, to "squint and see the ends of the universe", to be able to accomplish any physical feat imaginable...

the christian faith cites walking on water as a miracle. Kal-El can superheat the oceans by looking at them.

If such a figure descended from above with every intention of fooling the world to believe he was God, people would laugh til they cried if you claimed he wasn't omnipotent.

Jesus had matter manipulation, Water to wine 😖hifty: 😛

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Jesus had matter manipulation, Water to wine 😖hifty: 😛
I realize the joke, but Superman could switch the pyramids of Giza for chocolate before we would notice he was gone.

I think I was superman who rebuilt a city within minutes.