Playing god

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Jesus can't...
fly
run faster than speed of sound
doesn't have...
Super Strength
Super Hearing (maybe he has but then it's what you call mindreading)
Heat Vision
Freeze Breath
X-Ray Vision
Telescopic/microscopic vision

IMO Supes more impressive than G-Sus

You mean, Jesus didn't. Not couldn't.

Without making this a religious debate, and speaking purely feat-wise;

Take the fig tree. From a distance, Jesus didn't notice the fig tree didn't have any fruit. Yet, He knew Judas was going to betray Him. So, obviously, Jesus could've done the same thing to see the fig tree was barren and saved Himself and the D-12 a walk. Part of it was showing moderation in the use of His powers. Like bringing people back to life and all that. He even brought Himself back to life. So He had command over life and death. He could've made like Doctor Strange and snuffed out all the Romans and went on His way. And walking on water proves He had command over physics, likely exterior physics as well as His own, so super-strength wouldn't have been a biggie. It seems He simply didn't need it. He wasn't there to fight. He also stopped a raging sea storm that was terrifying the D-12. And as for flight. Remember, when He resurrected Himself, it was the body, not just the spirit. And He ascended to Heaven. Meaning flight.

Supes is limited though. Superman can't cast out demons. He gets sent to the f*cking moon by them. Jesus would pwn Etrigan. But what would Superman do with all the possessed people that get brought to him? What about bringing people back to life, or healing others? Weather control? These are things Superman can't do. Or even fake.

Superman's best bet is to aim for "prophet". He could even carve out a giant idol of himself and hide on top doing a god-voice or something. Perhaps doing feats at light-speed so it appears to be the power of the idol as opposed to an agent.

This thread should have Dr. Manhattan in it. He'd clear all of them.

Originally posted by Master Court
You mean, Jesus didn't. Not couldn't.

Without making this a religious debate, and speaking purely feat-wise;

Take the fig tree. From a distance, Jesus didn't notice the fig tree didn't have any fruit. Yet, He knew Judas was going to betray Him. So, obviously, Jesus could've done the same thing to see the fig tree was barren and saved Himself and the D-12 a walk. Part of it was showing moderation in the use of His powers. Like bringing people back to life and all that. He even brought Himself back to life. So He had command over life and death. He could've made like Doctor Strange and snuffed out all the Romans and went on His way. And walking on water proves He had command over physics, likely exterior physics as well as His own, so super-strength wouldn't have been a biggie. It seems He simply didn't need it. He wasn't there to fight. He also stopped a raging sea storm that was terrifying the D-12. And as for flight. Remember, when He resurrected Himself, it was the body, not just the spirit. And He ascended to Heaven. Meaning flight.

Supes is limited though. Superman can't cast out demons. He gets sent to the f*cking moon by them. Jesus would pwn Etrigan. But what would Superman do with all the possessed people that get brought to him? What about bringing people back to life, or healing others? Weather control? These are things Superman can't do. Or even fake.

Superman's best bet is to aim for "prophet". He could even carve out a giant idol of himself and hide on top doing a god-voice or something. Perhaps doing feats at light-speed so it appears to be the power of the idol as opposed to an agent.

Originally posted by Master Court
You mean, Jesus didn't. Not couldn't.

Without making this a religious debate, and speaking purely feat-wise;

Take the fig tree. From a distance, Jesus didn't notice the fig tree didn't have any fruit. Yet, He knew Judas was going to betray Him. So, obviously, Jesus could've done the same thing to see the fig tree was barren and saved Himself and the D-12 a walk. Part of it was showing moderation in the use of His powers. Like bringing people back to life and all that. He even brought Himself back to life. So He had command over life and death. He could've made like Doctor Strange and snuffed out all the Romans and went on His way. And walking on water proves He had command over physics, likely exterior physics as well as His own, so super-strength wouldn't have been a biggie. It seems He simply didn't need it. He wasn't there to fight. He also stopped a raging sea storm that was terrifying the D-12. And as for flight. Remember, when He resurrected Himself, it was the body, not just the spirit. And He ascended to Heaven. Meaning flight.

Supes is limited though. Superman can't cast out demons. He gets sent to the f*cking moon by them. Jesus would pwn Etrigan. But what would Superman do with all the possessed people that get brought to him? What about bringing people back to life, or healing others? Weather control? These are things Superman can't do. Or even fake.

Superman's best bet is to aim for "prophet". He could even carve out a giant idol of himself and hide on top doing a god-voice or something. Perhaps doing feats at light-speed so it appears to be the power of the idol as opposed to an agent.

We should just make a Jesus respect thread.

not when moses was so much cooler.

Originally posted by Bentley
We should just make a Jesus respect thread.

I thought about the same 😆

Funny thing is they're really some comics with Jesus

Originally posted by Omega Vision
This thread should have Dr. Manhattan in it. He'd clear all of them.

Great thread idea, btw.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
The SW people would still just think he's a super powerful alien well trained in The Force.

Great thread idea, btw.

I don't buy that someone is as powerful as manhattan or anyone at that level would just be deemed "crazy force user." I havent read the books but what are the top feats of a force user?

IMO one of the most impressive things is willing yourself out of existence (not that helps anyone but still kind of cool), and in the force unleashed making a star ship crash was ****ing AMAZING but nothing a skyfatehr can do with but a thought.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
I don't buy that someone is as powerful as manhattan or anyone at that level would just be deemed "crazy force user." I havent read the books but what are the top feats of a force user?

IMO one of the most impressive things is willing yourself out of existence (not that helps anyone but still kind of cool), and in the force unleashed making a star ship crash was ****ing AMAZING but nothing a skyfatehr can do with but a thought.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
The SW people would still just think he's a super powerful alien well trained in The Force.

Great thread idea, btw.

Ha! That reminds me of that "Life of Brian" scene.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Ha! That reminds me of that "Life of Brian" scene.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch

Great thread idea, btw.

Thanks

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I admit that scene inspired it though Manhattan wouldn't care enough to argue for long and eventually he'd just accept their worship, or ignore it, probably the second one.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Or just teleport away.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yes but if Supes started pulling off repeat performances of Jesus from the Bible Christians would think he's the Anti-Crist because they're already expecting someone to start pulling off miracles claiming to be God. They wouldn't believe anyone who didn't wisk them away to a life of luxury in Heaven because that's what God's supposed to do next time they hear from him. Anyone making the claim of divinity who falls short of that mark will be seen as a false prophet come to lead them astray.

Are you seriously claiming that if someone with all-mighty powers descended from above, performed miracles, made it rain in countries with droughts, gave food to all on earth, constructed heavenly architecture and instantly stopped murderers, rapists and thieves, and claimed he was god, that people would say "no, definitely an evil bastard."

People are convinced by a LOT easier than that. If what you're suggesting were true, nobody on earth would any longer have any faith in god.

Kal-El could construct a paradise on earth, and then make up reasons for people passing on. Say that they're going on to the next heavenly level. Say that he wants to see his creations continue to prosper in this land, and there's no reason to abandon it yet. etc, etc.

People would accept it as scripture.

Masses of people are convinced by what they feel when they pray and by what their elders tell them. If they saw a god-like being end all the hunger in africa, remove brain tumors by looking the person in the eyes, and on and on, they would be convinced beyond argument.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
People are convinced by a LOT easier than that. If what you're suggesting were true, nobody on earth would any longer have any faith in god.

...just made me think of that for some reason. ermmhappy

Originally posted by Original Smurph
That's not true at all.

Are you seriously claiming that if someone with all-mighty powers descended from above, performed miracles, made it rain in countries with droughts, gave food to all on earth, constructed heavenly architecture and instantly stopped murderers, rapists and thieves, and claimed he was god, that people would say "no, definitely an evil bastard."

People are convinced by a LOT easier than that. If what you're suggesting were true, nobody on earth would any longer have any faith in god.

Kal-El could construct a paradise on earth, and then make up reasons for people passing on. Say that they're going on to the next heavenly level. Say that he wants to see his creations continue to prosper in this land, and there's no reason to abandon it yet. etc, etc.

People would accept it as scripture.

Masses of people are convinced by what they feel when they pray and by what their elders tell them. If they saw a god-like being end all the hunger in africa, remove brain tumors by looking the person in the eyes, and on and on, they would be convinced beyond argument.

Now he might be able to fight them all down and set himself with a good story to support what he IS capable of, but in that scenereo he's not really convincing people that he's the Christian God(which is what this thread is about ).

Let's see... If a man... Appeared in front of you. Claimed to be Jesus.... Performed miracles like Jesus... Heck he even looks like Jesus... You would automatically assume he's the Antichrist?

Becuase seeing isn't believing right? Your gonna go off third hand information from what one guy told another guy that told another guy that kept the info by oral representation for five hundred years before it was written down...

Originally posted by darthgoober
That's exactly what they'd say, because that's pretty much what they're expecting the Anti-Crist to do.

Now he might be able to fight them all down and set himself with a good story to support what he IS capable of, but in that scenereo he's not really convincing people that he's the Christian God(which is what this thread is about ).

Frankly, that's common sense.

People nowadays even report "miracles" as a sign of Jesus and God and so forth. You never hear the words "he recovered from cancer! anti-christ!"