Re: My Swordsmanship Rankings
Originally posted by \\S//Really? Mace and Yoda could go either way. I'd think Mace is better in the long run b/c he's a full sized man and doesn't have to worry about using the Force for energy. He also has intangibles such as Vapaad and Shatterpoint. But Palpatine higher than those two? Is there something post-ROTJ I'm missing?
2: Palpatine
3: Mace Windu
4: Yoda
Re: Re: My Swordsmanship Rankings
Originally posted by Darth MartinDE. A more powerful-than-ever Palpatine inhabiting the clone body of his physical prime.
Really? Mace and Yoda could go either way. I'd think Mace is better in the long run b/c he's a full sized man and doesn't have to worry about using the Force for energy. He also has intangibles such as Vapaad and Shatterpoint. But Palpatine higher than those two? Is there something post-ROTJ I'm missing?
And in terms of saber combat, Shatterpoint falls under the Force category, not skill with a blade.
Originally posted by Darth Martin
You have Windu on par with Maul? Why is Windu so low? Why is Vader so high?
Mace was the equal of Qui-Gon. Though both may be greater Jedis then Maul. Maul was impressive with his LS skills, that's what this thread is about.
Luke became the greatest Jedi-Grandmaster ever.
(Movie chars > non-lucas fiction, anyway, lukes origins are set in the movies)
Yoda and Dooku are > Mace. Palpatine, not holding back was Yodas equal.
And even though movie > non-lucas fiction, Revan and Exar were beasts, that's where I'm a bit biased 😛.
Mace isn't low if you consider that he is among the best.
Palpatine Vs Windu & Other concerns about my Ranking List
Because Windu was escorted by three Jedi Masters he got a bit of a sneak peek into Palpatine's lightsaber style before the duel technically began. If Palpatine had not been disarmed late in the duel or if he had had the element of surprise then there's no telling where the fight might have gone, but in Dark Empire, in the body of his youth, it's safe to assume that Palpatine was Windu's superior. In concerns to another post, Qui-Gon was Windu's equal-whilst Dooku & Yoda were his superiors-only before Windu had mastered Vaapad, but by the time of ROTS, however, Windu can be considered as the greatest swordsman of the Jedi order in the history of the Galaxy. And on another subject, according to on panel evidence in Dark Empire, Luke Skywalker was indefinately the most skilled lightsaber duelist of all time, and just from the films Skywalker was evidently the most gifted swordsman, instaneously mimicking Djem So during his second duel with Vader.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Mace was the equal of Qui-Gon. Though both may be greater Jedis then Maul. Maul was impressive with his LS skills, that's what this thread is about.
Luke became the greatest Jedi-Grandmaster ever.
(Movie chars > non-lucas fiction, anyway, lukes origins are set in the movies)
Yoda and Dooku are > Mace. Palpatine, not holding back was Yodas equal.
And even though movie > non-lucas fiction, Revan and Exar were beasts, that's where I'm a bit biased 😛.
Mace isn't low if you consider that he is among the best.
1.That was in TPM. Some 13 or so years prior to ROTS. Before the Clone Wars, Mace creating Vapaad, and mastering his shatterpoint technique.
2.Okay. But you just said yourself that movies>EU. Luke did not touch a percentage of what he'd later go on to do in the EU.
3.Yoda and Mace is a toossup as far as sword skills go. But I'd say Mace>Tyranus.
4.Palpatine holding back is an opinion of yours. Doesn't mean I subscribe to it. I hold the belief that Yoda was too much for Sidious in swordmanship so Sidious took to the rafters and started launching pods. Something he felt he held the advantage in.
5.I think in this particular forum, everything holds even ground. Except for "What If" type stories.
6.IMO he should be higher than some of the people you've listed.