Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
All of this talk, Dudemon, and you still haven't given any good reason as to why you rate Sideswipe's ability so high.
Yes I have.
He's literally faster and fights better.
AND, BB's arm cannons are weak and SS's blades cut right through transformers like they are butter.
To me, this an easy thread to determine the winner. I think it's gone on for 18 pages because there's lots of BB fanboys. At least I have the nadz to say I am a Preston fanboy.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Yes I have.He's literally faster and fights better.
AND, BB's arm cannons are weak and SS's blades cut right through transformers like they are butter.
To me, this an easy thread to determine the winner. I think it's gone on for 18 pages because there's lots of BB fanboys. At least I have the nadz to say I am a Preston fanboy.
LoL, just no.
Saying all this nonsense about SS is the fanboyism, as he didn't do much of anything except kill a fleeing opponent who wasn't fighting back.
Luckily for BB, he doesn't just rely on his cannons to kill, as seen of screen.
But didn't BB land the killing-strike on the Tank with his guns in the first film? Think so. That speaks well for the power of his guns.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Really? Maybe in numbers...but not overall. Wait, I think you're right. They have to use the petty humans and their petty weapons to even the odds.
Top Tier
Prime
Megatron
Starscream
Blackout
2nd Tier
Brawl
Ironhide
Ratchet
Bonecrusher
3rd Tier
Bumblebee
Sideswipe
Jazz
Barricade
Arcee
If the Autobots faced the Decepticons in all-out warfare/group fight. The Decepticons would rape. Prime would be the only thing standing in the way. Decepticons have too many big threats. After Prime, Ratchet is the there best gun. And he wouldn't even make the top 5 of the Decepticons.
*Optimus Prime handed the three there shit in ROTF but he was pretty ****ed up afterwards whearas Megatron looked up and running fine.
*It took 3 Autobots and tons of human soldiers to put down Brawl momentarily.
*Starscream had Ratchet and Ironhide crawling on there knees after a brief firefight.
*One missile left Bumblebee legless from Starscream.
*Most of the Decepticons are big enough to rip Jazz and Arcee apart.
*Decepticons have shown that they have EMP's.
And that's not even bringing up Fallen, Grindor, or the humans aiding the Autobots.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
The tank was spent, it was taking fire from the humans and several shots from BB, AND it hit him in the face.
And? It was BB's hit that ended him, despite his exceptionally high-level of durability. I remember the dude who cheated on Fergie with the stripper who looks a little retarded in the face saying, "these things just won't stay down", in regards to the Tank.
That same shot would likely do a ton more damage to SS.
I did not. I placed them in the same tier. Prime is better than everyone in the series yet there are three others in his tier.
Seriously, Sideswipe has done nothing to garner such praise from you or anyone else. I have no problem talking about Transformers power levels in general. But the question of "Sideswipe versus Bumblebee" bores me.
Originally posted by Darth Martin
I did not. I placed them in the same tier. Prime is better than everyone in the series yet there are three others in his tier.
In regards to pure skill (not power levels, strength, durability etc), BB would be just behind Prime, taking into account the movie fights from both films.
Originally posted by RobtardDude, I was just saying. It wasn't that hard of a shot. Shoot McClane in the face with a .22 and likely he goes down to. Yes, I went there.
And? It was BB's hit that ended him, despite his exceptionally high-level of durability. I remember the dude who cheated on Fergie with the stripper who looks a little retarded in the face saying, "these things just won't stay down", in regards to the Tank.That same shot would likely do a ton more damage to SS.
Originally posted by RobtardAgreed. But my list above wasn't based on fighting skill alone. It was based on my opinion of there power levels overall in response to DDM.
In regards to pure skill (not power levels, strength, durability etc), BB would be just behind Prime, taking into account the movie fights from both films.