Oh hi der, lemme present some stats on these two fighters given to them on the back of their toys, since, you know, they're suppose to apply to their onscreen counterparts.
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Hope this helps, from the looks of it, both combatants are equal with SS being just slightly, slightly better.
My opinion: Going by toy stats and on-screen feats, I think BB can take this since he's toppled Decepticons with much higher stats than SS.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Hmm, too bad that shit holds absolutely zero water here. 😂The pwn stands ✅
Wiki and screen feats only.
The pwn stands, for you. your word isn't law, it's all opinions... For you to think that your decision should be applied to everyones, well, that's just silly. Also funny, but it's okay, you'll only say pwn a 73rd time.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Hmm, too bad that shit holds absolutely zero water here. 😂The pwn stands ✅
Wiki and screen feats only.
Your Wiki-frantic-clinging link really didn't prove much. Only thing it says is SS is a great fighter, on par with OP's skill level.
Applying onscreen feats, BB isn't all that behind to OP in skill. So his feats against the bulldozer and cat pull him a win here.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Hmm, too bad that shit holds absolutely zero water here. 😂The pwn stands ✅
Wiki and screen feats only.
And what do you think the wiki info is based on...?
(Dont worry the wiki quotes, can be altered quite easily so they're real reliable, right...?)
Yes it does indeed stand.
You are so Pwned that we are you gonna have to called it Qwned, 'cause Pwned just doesn't cut it anymore, when describe massive quantum pwenencesse such as these.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
And what do you think the wiki info is based on...?
(Dont worry the wiki quotes, can be altered quite easily so they're real reliable, right...?)Yes it does indeed stand.
You are so Pwned that we are you gonna have to called it Qwned, 'cause Pwned just doesn't cut it anymore, when describe massive pwenencesse such as these.
Just to clarify what Scythe posted, those stats are from the movie toys; not another TF continuity. So it does indeed pretain directly to the movie.
http://transformers.moviechronicles.com/2009-04/more-character-bios-and-toy-packages/
Though it's still pretty irrelevant, as BB's movie feats surpass SS's.
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthThe wiki info is based on the ROTF movie, it even has ROTF attached to it. See, your argument falls on it's face when you consider that SS wasn't shown fighting as much as BB. The wiki link PROVES SS is superior to BB in every way.
And what do you think the wiki info is based on...?
(Dont worry the wiki quotes, can be altered quite easily so they're real reliable, right...?)Yes it does indeed stand.
You are so Pwned that we are you gonna have to called it Qwned, 'cause Pwned just doesn't cut it anymore, when describe massive pwenencesse such as these.
Tell you what, find a wiki quote that disproves it and we'll talk.
Until then, accept the pwn Mk? 😄
Originally posted by RobtardBut the toys aren't a creditable or even allowable MVF source.
Just to clarify what Scythe posted, those stats are from the movie toys; not another TF continuity. So it does indeed pretain directly to the movie.http://transformers.moviechronicles.com/2009-04/more-character-bios-and-toy-packages/
Though it's still pretty irrelevant, as BB's movie feats surpass SS's.
Pwned again.
Tell me this, who would win if Rambo fought Jet Li's "Fearless" character h2h to the death?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
But the toys aren't a creditable or even allowable MVF source.Pwned again.
Tell me this, who would win if Rambo fought Jet Li's "Fearless" character h2h to the death?
Did you miss where I said "irrelevant" and went back to movie feats? It was in clear print.
You have yet to prove a relevant single point of yours correct. So you should just stop arbitarily throwing the word "pwned" around, it's silly and childish.
Probably the Jet Li character, as he had better on-screen movie feats. Just like BB had better feats over SS.
The only thing your little wiki link helped you with was the "SS is on par to OP in fighting skill", but going by movie feats, Bumblebee isn't all that far behind to OP in skill, as he punches, kicks, knees, tosses and uses his guns all in a dizzying combo of destruction, similar to OP.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
The wiki info is based on the ROTF movie, it even has ROTF attached to it. See, your argument falls on it's face when you consider that SS wasn't shown fighting as much as BB. The wiki link PROVES SS is superior to BB in every way.Tell you what, find a wiki quote that disproves it and we'll talk.
Until then, accept the pwn Mk? 😄
Ummmmmmmmm nope.
It doesn't. I know your blind faith side is strong in you, young Skywalker so I can see how you desperately would love to be in chrage of what is and isnt real about on screen feats in the movie, but ultimately, the movie speaks for itself.
Nope. Its not for me to teach you that the sky is blue and that the water is wet, some truths just shouldnt have to be pointed out.
Watch Tfs 2, then I will accept your apology for the audacity of your wild claims.... 😛
SS is as about as significant (and nearly as spindly) as the Arcee twins...
Ive told you, I have accepted both pwning and qwning you. 😮💨
And oh, lookie:
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Revenge_of_the_Fallen_(film)
Transformers wiki, talking about ROTF, and what do we have here?
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Sideswipe_%28ROTF%29
The exact link I posted earlier ✅
But hey, it's all crap, yes? 🙄
Bottom line is this.....SS is not shown onscreen enough, and you guys are using the flimsy argument that since BB is shown more, he is more uber. I buried that line of crapola ✅
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Ummmmmmmmm nope.
It doesn't. I know your blind faith side is strong in you, young Skywalker so I can see how you desperately would love to be in chrage of what is and isnt real about on screen feats in the movie, but ultimately, the movie speaks for itself.Nope. Its not for me to teach you that the sky is blue and that the water is wet, some truths just shouldnt have to be pointed out.
Watch Tfs 2, then I will accept your apology for the audacity of your wild claims.... 😛
SS is as about as significant (and nearly as spindly) as the Arcee twins...Ive told you, I have accepted both pwning and qwning you. 😮💨
Mhm, the movie speaks for itself, and wiki expands on that, fact. Again, I proved SS is superior, I adhered to MVF rules 100%, but it is being ignored.
I made no wild claims, I posted evidence that SS is superior ✅ And you don't like it ❌ But hey, it's all good, yes? ✅
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Mhm, the movie speaks for itself, and wiki expands on that, fact. Again, I proved SS is superior, I adhered to MVF rules 100%, but it is being ignored.I made no wild claims, I posted evidence that SS is superior ✅ And you don't like it ❌ But hey, it's all good, yes? ✅
Again, the only thing your wiki-post proved was that SS is skilled on par with OP. That in no way means he's levels and levels more skilled than BB, as BB showed (not wiki-shit) similar skills in fighting to OP, what's more, BB showed similar with far less to work with(size, power, weapons etc), so this is actually another plus towards BB. Thanks.
Once BB's battle-mask flips down, SS is doomed. It's like his version of Lincoln Hawk's trucker hat.
Edit: Listen, if TF 3 comes out and they make SS out to be some total bad-ass, then sure. Until then, stop making yourself look foolish and maybe save that sig for cheerleading then.
Originally posted by RobtardBut the fact remains that wiki counts here. MVF rules are quite clear on this, and you are breaking the rules by ignoring the facts that I am presenting.
Again, the only thing your wiki-post proved was that SS is skilled on par with OP. That in no way means he's levels and levels more skilled than BB, as BB showed (not wiki-shit) similar skills in fighting to OP, what's more, he showed similar with far less to work with, so this is actually another plus towards BB. Thanks.
Wiki (The wiki site dedicated to ROTF) implies that SS is superior to BB.
Gracias 😄
Disprove it? Yeah, thought not.
Your faith in Wiki is misplaced.... http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090708042030AA1SD9Z
Also, RJ: Its strange that you selctively ignore the stats, despite them being official info that wikipedia gets it from... whilst arguing for wiki dominance...
From wikipedia:
"Sideswipe appears in the 2009 film, Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen. He transforms into a Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Concept, and has two wheeled feet like Bonecrusher in the first film. He is armed with two retractable Cybertronium arm blades in robot mode along with a double barreled Machine Gun on each of his wrists and a gun on his back. Early concept art of Sideswipe protrayed him as being red, but he would end up silver.
His Hasbro battle bio states that he is 15 ft. tall and that he's a master in almost every form of martial arts on Cybertron."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sideswipe
Way to gimp yourself....good to see that some things'll never change.
Originally posted by Placidity
Hey Scythe, those stat profiles are cool. Got any others?
Sure, I get them all from www.seibertron.com. Go to galleries and almost every toy there has a pic of their stats.