Ep2 Title: Rise of the Empire?

I've just got an email from Phantasia about the possible working title for Episode II, heres part of the email:

Just to let you know that Lucasfilm submitted Ep 2 production info
to the May 2000 edition of the Australian trade paper Cinema Papers. The
working title is given as Rise of the Empire. Now, chances are it won't stay
that title. But that's what it was listed as in the official film trade
newspaper here in Australia. There was also a thumbnail plot outline, along
the lines of romance against a backdrop of growing galactic war.

Well, it wouldn't be a bad title. I wonder what else they'd come up with. Will it be as cryptic as TPM?

I like the title but I've said before I don't think GL would use "empire" again. Maybe "Rise of the Sith" but not "empire". I'm sure George will change the title. Thanks for the info, Raz. 🙂

Actually, after having a little talk with Josh at TFN, he says that this IS the working title they're currently using, but it was reported ages ago, so its supposedly old news...

Rise of the Empire's been rumoured and denied for ages (possibly years). I'd love it to be that but the Empire doesn't seem play a part in ep2 - at the end the Republic is still going even if it's on its last legs. And I think a few spies said the working title during filming was the joky "Jar Jar's Great Adventure". I'm putting my money on the title being obscure and nothing that's been rumoured - I'd never have guessed the title of TPM before it was released...

Yeah, this is an old rumour which was quashed almost as soon as it came out.

I posted the story on it back on 18th August 2000 on my Episode-II Website. I even made a mock title banner based on the Episode-I banner.

The story was rapidly discounted within 3 days or so of it coming to light.

Looks like I was under my rock again, last August 😂

To be fair, it came and went soooooo quick that it was easy to miss it.

Here's the original story I got my info from: www.canoe.ca/JamStarWars/aug17_sw.html

Could someone explain to me why so many users are convinced the word "Empire" won't be used again in a title? I personally like the titles "Rise of the Empire" and "The Empire Strikes" for Ep2. The word empire was mentioned a hundred times in the OT while Sith was mentioned a grand total of 0. The empire is rising in Ep2, doesn't it seem at all plausable that this could be the films title?

Actually the Empire ISN'T rising, Palpatine is. I don't think we will see anything that could be considered THE EMPIRE until Episode-III.

Rise of the Emperor? And we don't know yet if the Empire doesn't rise in Ep2. The question for stronger leadership will certainly be an isse. Maybe the inauguration of Palpy is the big cliffhanger this time.

I kinda like the idea of two "Empire" titles. Maybe Ep3 might be called "Fall of the Jedi", that would tie in nicely with the oher titles.

Agreed, we don't know, but for Lucas to go from Palpatine is Chancellor to Palpative has full control is rather an odd way to tell a story.

Also, Palpatine only gained full control when he disolved the senate and that didn't happen until ANH...

Correct me if I'm wrong but the empire won't 'rise' till the end of ep 3 and maybe even ep 4. Doesn't tarkin say something about how the empire gains total control during episode 4 in a scene in the film.

No, "the last remnant of the old republic has been swept away". That's what he said, it sounds like a mere formality to me.

And we don't go from Palpy as Chancellor to Emperor like that, in Episode 2 he's been Chancellor for ten years!!!!

Oh, I know in the timeline there's a ten year gap. What I'm saying is that from the viewers aspect it' a big jump to kinda ignore.

I guess Palpy will have been gathering power during the 10 year gap but I just feel it would still be a little too soon for him to declare himself Emperor.

Maybe. But still, I suspect that Palpy's position will be made very clear to us at the beginning of Ep2. After all, Padme is a Senator so there are many opportunities to make clear to us what the political status is. If any information about Palpy's authority is given, then GL's basically home free to do whatever he wants.

Think it's OK but I think there's to much of the EMPIRE in there for my liking.
We need something darker, moodier and much more destructive.....aaarrrrhhhhh...sorry about that! 😈

What about:- The Rathe Of The Sith 🙄 or how about:- Dark Cloud OF War 😂

Ok, so there not that great.... we will just have to wait to see that the Great Beard comes up with!

Nice tries though. But maybe a bit too dramatic for SW. Rise of the Empire is quite basic SW style, it would fit, but true, we'll have to wait and see.

OK...thinking of something basic.

How about:- The Dark Clone Wars , Cloak Of The Sith , The Great War <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT="😬">

Well, they don't really say anything about the story, now does it. If you look at TPM, ANH and ROTJ there are several ways to explain the title. ESB is the only that only one, well it strikes back in several ways, but still it's pretty basic. Yet, it does say something about the WHOLE SW story:

TPM (a threat to the universe that is hidden by another)
...
A new hope (Luke, destruction of the Death Star)
ESB (the Emprie retaliates)
ROTJ (Luke returns after his defeat, Anakin returns to being a Jedi)

So, the Clone Wars could be a title, but so far it probably doesn't really start until the end of Ep2. And ends maybe somewhere at the beginning of Ep3. So that seems unlikely. And they're still a little too dramatic.