Originally posted by namorsubby
superman has a death ray in his eyes too......and much, much more.
yeah but the big difference is Supes durability, strength and speed. 3 good reasons to go H2H sometimes, Cykes has only his optic blast as a power take that away and he is nothing special anymore (I know tactical knowledge in good shape etc. but you get my point)
Originally posted by namorsubby
superman has a death ray in his eyes too......and much, much more.still, based on his training/trainers, it wouldn't make sense for cyke to be superior.
except that superman's training has taught him how to effectively incorporate his powerset...
he hardly, if ever fights without it...
cyclops on the other hand, has been training in hand to hand ever since he felt helpless years ago and apparently went to wolverine for training. he went from slim summers to the physique he has now... so he isn't a person that relies solely on his eyeblasts anymore... thats just his obvious powerset... how often do you see storm doing hand to hand...
and the biggest argument.. .is that both are suddenly pput into regular human bodies... superman hasan't been in a regular human body a single day in his life... cyclops power set is exactly the same except he loses the optic blasts.
Cyke till i see the new superman powerless again. He might be a good MA but he is used to his Superpowers and his fast Brain, without them he seems to be unable to fight better then your average MA.
His powerless appearances weren't that impressive.
Cyke on the other hand has a lot of training and is quite used to fight with his "weak" body and his slow reflexes.