Originally posted by Batman-PrimeI never said she couldn't. I only think that she isn't a peer to him in strength. She can take some victories from Supes, but I don't see her anywhere a majority.
So we agree, she can dmg him physically and with her gear. She can counter his "superior" strength with her h2h skills and her combat speed. This fight is against someone who isn't as fast as superman, and not as skilled as wonderwoman. So she wins. pretty simple.She never stated in this fight that she can't kill him, only that she is holding back because he isn't the enemy. To deny this is just ridiculous, honestly.
My problem was with the fact someone was trying to paint her as a rival to Superman in strength. He's well above her in that regard.
Originally posted by khazra
What about that asteroid gives you the impression that it's world destroying?When thor lifts the sperpent he does it from standing. Thereby its pure strength.
She is supporting a wieght whilst flying up towards it. That doesnt require any level of superstrength, it requires thrust & the necessary durability to not be crushed.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said she couldn't. I only think that she isn't a peer to him in strength. She can take some victories from Supes, but I don't see her anywhere a majority.My problem was with the fact someone was trying to paint her as a rival to Superman in strength. He's well above her in that regard.
Originally posted by Omega VisionI don't see it that way. I don't think their size has anything to do with it. Superman is stronger and more powerful than WW. This has always been maintained by dc.
To be fair it always seemed that she had proportionately the same strength and that if she were Superman's size she'd be just as strong.
The way I see it Diana is to Superman in terms of strength what Big Barda is to Diana: close but not an equal.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't see it that way. I don't think their size has anything to do with it. Superman is stronger and more powerful than WW. This has always been maintained by dc.
Originally posted by Zeuodin
So how is she holding her arms in a bent position if she's not using super strength? Thor was standing on a boat that was moving. So I guess we will assume that the boat was doing all the work and Thor just had a good grip. You see how that sounds? That is how you sounds. Also it's planet destroying because she says to continue to protect earth. Noting the rock was endangering earth. also, now that you know her best strength feat is not holding up a bridge, you seek to derail it with a flight? She wasn't flying it up wards while talking to terra. you know the girl that can toss mountains but couldn't stop the asteroid. She was stationary.
if something travelling down is met by the same force travelling up they stop when they make impact.
so your saying you dont think this feat can be accomplished by a combo of superspeed, flight & durability? i fail to see where strength becomes necessary.
Originally posted by Zeuodin
Dc has also said that no other hero is stronger than Wonder Woman but Superman. This has always been maintained by DC.
Originally posted by khazra
Protecting earth is an exxageration to an extant, if she says she's protecting the earth from cheetah she doesnt necessarily mean that cheetah is a threat to the physical planet itself.if something travelling down is met by the same force travelling up they stop when they make impact.
so your saying you dont think this feat can be accomplished by a combo of superspeed, flight & durability? i fail to see where strength becomes necessary.
Originally posted by quanchi112It's been stated on panel by superman that WW and CM have comparible hits. Now again. WW has Stalemated CM. So without superman's feats, WW and CM are both in the same boat. They only have combat feats. Which are more or less equal.
No, he isn't as skilled as WW and it's been stated on panel that their strength is comparable.
Originally posted by Zeuodin
I've never seen CM have any feats that suggest he's a peer of superman outside of their fights. And that could be due to magic and CM"s better durability.
Not exactly related to the thread, but Superman needed Marvel's aid to lift a 'book' of infinite mass. So yes, they are peers in abilities.
He's also lifted South America in the past.