Vader and Sidious vs. Luke and Mara

Yeah frankly I've just never though of any incarnation of Luke to be above DE Sidous. Not that he's far off, just not above.

Originally posted by truejedi
Did someone take away your ability to read?

Height of his POTENTIAL was never achieved. Obviously. Believe it or not, i have at least an elementary knowledge of Star Wars.

What i SAID was the height of his POWERS, which is a completely different thing. Maybe YOUR account was hacked?

Wow TJ i congratulate you for becoming the forums new keyboard warrior.

Doesn't potential = power?

Confusing between power and potential =/= lacking the ability to read, up your intelligence and down your stupidity.

no. it doesn't at all. work on your vocabulary. then come back and try to post.

Originally posted by BoratBorat
Wow TJ i congratulate you for becoming the forums new keyboard warrior.

Doesn't potential = power?

Confusing between power and potential =/= lacking the ability to read, up your intelligence and down your stupidity.

But saying Height of His Power is equivalent to saying This is The Most Powerful He's Ever Been. And thanks to our knowing Vader's fate, we know it's the most powerful he'll ever be. Hence, Height of His Power.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Yeah frankly I've just never though of any incarnation of Luke to be above DE Sidous. Not that he's far off, just not above.

Gideon brainwashed you didn't he...

Revan at his height of power > Luke at his height of power > Sidious at his height of power.

Srsly though, we can't prove that neither is above the other.

can't be proved. It really all boils down to opinion. Which is probably why this board is still alive. My opinion is that Luke could take sidious, simply because, he did. Combat isn't all there is to it though. Luke simply doesn't have the access to the information that Sidious did. I have no doubt that Luke COULD master any technique sidious knew, but sidious surely knew more.

I don't know if the reverse would be true though.

For instance, do you think that Sidious could anchor himself in the force so securely that even the black hole at the center of the galaxy couldn't move him? I'm thinking by the very nature of sidious's relationship with the force(Darkside), he couldn't.

And BoratBorat, peace bro, its all good.

Tj, u kno BB is actually Wolverine2179, DorianYates, Schwarzenegger, IAMBATMAN, Ivalice, Sylar, GahLakTus, Thiru, Manslayer, Kadesh, San'Doria, VadersElements, ESB Vader, and/or LightElement?

nope. i didn't even look. now i'm sad cause i yelled at wolfie. I thought a newb was taking shots at me.

No really, i thought someone else was using your account, you were usually very calm in the vs forums and suddenly you seem very aggresive.

ah. i don't feel overly aggresive, beyond what i said to you.

😕 😕 🙁

lie!

That's what happens when you change your name every half a year.

Or would you prefer if i changed it ever week?

Well, you have to be very creative then...

lol, i never check these things. I never even knew that wolfie was Ivarice. I thought he was some guy who joined while i was gone.

I regularly check peoples' profiles so I can stay on top of these things.

Originally posted by truejedi
lol, i never check these things. I never even knew that wolfie was Ivarice. I thought he was some guy who joined while i was gone.

TskTsk.

Anyways this will be my username for a long time, i dont really take this forum so seriously anymore.

There's a lot of that going around. Maybe its time for a 2nd generation (including zero current members) to start from scratch. There could be talk of "antediluvians" that "worshiped Sidious" liek idjaeiou(y)ts and they can all be Lumiya fanbois.

Every 8 months, Janus, Nai, or Gideon will show up and get mobbed by ppl that can't believe that they can believe that Ragnos, Kun, or Sidious (respectively) have a chance against Lumiya.

I've thought a lot about this. 😐

its true. anytime a member brings up something, we all are annoyed that they dont already know. i am going to wait for the death of luke, and then im quitting star wars. i'm only waiting for FOTJ to conclude, i guess there is a new bane novel coming out too.

We usually have a few good weeks of discussion after each release. Right now we are on a several month streak of no releases, and that has made most members, including myself, treat this website like a social site instead of a star wars discussion site.

Funny that, I was just thinking earlier tonight if I should pull a Blax. I'm getting tired of the same 'ol stuff getting tossed back and forth and re-discussed and re-proven.

I remember when I first found this place. Seems like only yesterday...[nostalgic harp plays]

RotS had just been released, KotOR II was only 6 months old, the Dark Nest trilogy was brand new, there was talk of a Darth Bane novel, plenty of comics and Clone Wars novels, Battlefront 2 to think of...

Good times.