Silver Samurai Vs. Leonardo

Started by Tha C-Master5 pages

Here is a scene of "laser dodging".

http://www.ninjaturtles.com/comics/mirage/four/pg32.htm

The Utroms commenting the turtles are just too damned fast. 😮‍💨
http://www.ninjaturtles.com/comics/mirage/four/pg33.htm

Leonardo wins

SS would solo all four turtles. 😎

They've fought worse things than SS, especially collectively.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
They've fought worse things than SS, especially collectively.

Not in comics. TV yes, comic, no.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Here is a scene of "laser dodging".

http://www.ninjaturtles.com/comics/mirage/four/pg32.htm

The Utroms commenting the turtles are just too damned fast. 😮‍💨
http://www.ninjaturtles.com/comics/mirage/four/pg33.htm


niether scan worked.

though I just realised there 2 years old lol.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Not in comics. TV yes, comic, no.
Both.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Both.

not really. who has a single one of them defeated that was more formidable then SS?

There comic versions are not remotely as impressive as there TV selfs.

Silver Samurai takes this handily. Unless TV version and even then depends which incarnation, some of which would dominate silver samurai, others not so much. However in comics, Leo would get beat down. He inferior in almost every single way.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
not really. who has a single one of them defeated that was more formidable then SS?

There comic versions are not remotely as impressive as there TV selfs.

We've been through this and I've posted things, it's going in circles. Haven't seen anything to the contrary that suggests he's above all of them, let alone collectively which they work with synergy.

Why was this old thing bumped anyways?

IIRC in the comics Leo was more impressive than in the first movie, Leo took on and beat Shredder one on one in the Mirage comics run yet Shredder was tooling all four turtles in the first movie and Splinter had to save the day.

All four Turtles have been flung back in time and fought Dinosaurs in the comics.

They have dodged blaster fire from Triceraton Commandos while fighting alongside the Utoms, Triceratons have Superhuman stats and Leo has taken them on hand to hand, in comics.

I'm not saying he would take a majority against SS given Leo's swords have been broken before and SS's sword will cut through anything but it seems Leo is getting seriously low balled here!

Originally posted by BigSid
IIRC in the comics Leo was more impressive than in the first movie, Leo took on and beat Shredder one on one in the Mirage comics run yet Shredder was tooling all four turtles in the first movie and Splinter had to save the day.

All four Turtles have been flung back in time and fought Dinosaurs in the comics.

They have dodged blaster fire from Triceraton Commandos while fighting alongside the Utoms, Triceratons have Superhuman stats and Leo has taken them on hand to hand, in comics.

I'm not saying he would take a majority against SS given Leo's swords have been broken before and SS's sword will cut through anything but it seems Leo is getting seriously low balled here!

Good post. I like it.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
We've been through this and I've posted things, it's going in circles.

No you posted two things. Niether of which was even a feat for a guy like punisher.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Haven't seen anything to the contrary that suggests he's above all of them,

I should have been clearlier. I was refferring to him beat any of them one on one, not combind.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master

Why was this old thing bumped anyways?

no idea.

Originally posted by BigSid
IIRC in the comics Leo was more impressive than in the first movie, Leo took on and beat Shredder one on one in the Mirage comics run yet Shredder was tooling all four turtles in the first movie and Splinter had to save the day.

All four Turtles have been flung back in time and fought Dinosaurs in the comics.

They have dodged blaster fire from Triceraton Commandos while fighting alongside the Utoms, Triceratons have Superhuman stats and Leo has taken them on hand to hand, in comics.

I'm not saying he would take a majority against SS given Leo's swords have been broken before and SS's sword will cut through anything but it seems Leo is getting seriously low balled here!


Really post issue numbers with actauly feats. And I gladly look them up. Becuase what your stating in the context of what they did is not nearly as impressive as your making it. And I have read more them my fair share of ninja turtle comics.

Can i beat an *******, and say Leo turns into his dragon form, and rip SS in two. 😛

Originally posted by SquallX
Can i beat an *******, and say Leo turns into his dragon form, and rip SS in two. 😛

TV version lol.

Miky had crazy super speed in that arc as well. Dam guy was quick silver but a ninja.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Really post issue numbers with actauly feats. And I gladly look them up. Becuase what your stating in the context of what they did is not nearly as impressive as your making it. And I have read more them my fair share of ninja turtle comics.

I would say you haven't read as much as you think you have because they were fighting Triceratons in TMNT Vol 1 issue 6 published by Mirage back in Feb 1986,

You can read the review of the issue, it's online

TMNT Vol 1 issue 6

In fact lots of issues are reviewed on that site.

That site has put all of their appearances throughout all their comic runs into a timeline, lots of issue reviews.

Like I said SS has a big advantage weapons and powers wise and I would back giving him the majority but it wouldn't be a stomp and to say they only fought street thugs with knives is simply not true.

Rat King, King Komodo, Lounge Lizard, White Rabbit, Shredder, the Triceratons etc they have quite a rogues gallery and all are above street thug.

Originally posted by BigSid
I would say you haven't read as much as you think you have because they were fighting Triceratons in TMNT Vol 1 issue 6 published by Mirage back in Feb 1986,

never denied they fought them, you just making it more impressive that it was. Out side perhaps superhuman strength those triceratons showed almost nothing.

Originally posted by BigSid

You can read the review of the issue, it's online

TMNT Vol 1 issue 6

In fact lots of issues are reviewed on that site.

I dont want reviews. I want you to stated feats and then provide the issue number. I read most all of there comics, most of which could be found online for a long time (though they recently were taken down)

Originally posted by BigSid
Rat King, King Komodo, Lounge Lizard, White Rabbit, Shredder, the Triceratons etc they have quite a rogues gallery and all are above street thug.

And yet someone like wolverine would destroy every single one of them and many with out much difficulty. And SS fights wolverine a number of times and put up quite the match.

I dont think you get what I am asking. Asking for you to provide feats. You know like "dodging" lasers then providing the issue number in which they did it ect. Stating a page full of reviews, is not evidence, it simply stating a page of useless reviews

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
never denied they fought them, you just making it more impressive that it was. Out side perhaps superhuman strength those triceratons showed almost nothing.

I dont want reviews. I want you to stated feats and then provide the issue number. I read most all of there comics, most of which could be found online for a long time (though they recently were taken down)

And yet someone like wolverine would destroy every single one of them and many with out much difficulty. And SS fights wolverine a number of times and put up quite the match.

I dont think you get what I am asking. Asking for you to provide feats. You know like "dodging" lasers then providing the issue number in which they did it ect. Stating a page full of reviews, is not evidence, it simply stating a page of useless reviews

I don't think you understand what I'm saying either, twice now I have given SS the majority, I just don't think it's a stomp.

What I'm questioning is the statement you made on page one when you said their common foes were street thugs with knives, that simply isn't true.

The reviews aren't useless as they have images from the issues in question in them and do a pretty good job of narrating the action, but if you consider them useless then that's fine.

You're writing Leo off as beneath SS's notice, I'm disagreeing with that and saying he would give SS a fight which I think ultimately SS would win, I said Leo was getting low balled, not that he would take the majority.

I'm not a fanboy, if anything I have a passing interest in TMNT and I don't favor one character over another, I'm probably as close to impartial as it gets, I will weigh a fight upon it's merits.

Actually the most naturally talented Turtle is Mikey, he just doesn't apply himself, the strongest is Raph, Leo is just the most focused and Disciplined.

I agree with you SS wins, I just don't agree it's as easy as you're making out.

Originally posted by BigSid
I don't think you understand what I'm saying either, twice now I have given SS the majority, I just don't think it's a stomp.

What I'm questioning is the statement you made on page one when you said their common foes were street thugs with knives, that simply isn't true.

The reviews aren't useless as they have images from the issues in question in them and do a pretty good job of narrating the action, but if you consider them useless then that's fine.

Actually the most naturally talented Turtle is Mikey, he just doesn't apply himself, the strongest is Raph, Leo is just the most focused and Disciplined.

I agree with you SS wins, I just don't agree it's as easy as you're making out.


First off the page one was done in 2009 two years ago.

Second they do face lots of street thugs, and foot ninjas (which might as well be hand ninjas) ect. they fight a lot of cannon fodder and constantly. though it could be argued that all comic characters do this.

Thats wrong. in fact that was something added to the TV show. That was never part of the comic, in fact mikey barly even had a personality through most of volume one and 2

SS feats are way better he would destroy leo. Leo would stand no chance, unless SS decided to not use his powers and even then he would handily beat leo.