To all of you who voted for Obama

Are you still happy you did?

All I see he has done is try to create an expanded version of medicare and a bunch of "czars" answerable soley to him?

He has enormously expanded the national debt.
He has done nothing for the environment.
Where is his promised tax cut for the middle class?
Are we out of Iraq or Afghanistan? Last I checked he was EXPANDING our presence in Afghanistan.
What has he done about unemployment?
What has he done to stop the outsourcing of American jobs to other countries?
He has an overwhelming majority in both houses of congress, he has no excuse.

Welcome to George W Bush the sequal

Is it time to start blaming everything on Obama?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Is it time to start blaming everything on Obama?

No, but we at least should see some of the "change" that was promised. All I see is more of the same.

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud

All I see he has done is try to create an expanded version of medicare and a bunch of "czars" answerable soley to him?

You're asking a question here, yet worded as a statement. Care to expand on this?

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
No, but we at least should see some of the "change" that was promised. All I see is more of the same.

I am surprised you actually believed any of this change crap.

Originally posted by Robtard
You're asking a question here, yet worded as a statement. Care to expand on this?

You're right, the quesgtion mark was a typo, it should have been a period.

If you've been following Obamacare you'd know by now it's medicare on steroids.

As for his czars, you can read all about them here

I will give Obama credit for one thing...he did throw billions of borrowed taxpayer dollars at the banking sector with which bank executives paid themselves huge bonuses and did nothing to stimulate the economy. Oh wait, that happened under Bush as well.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I am surprised you actually believed any of this change crap.

I didn't. I held my nose and voted for McCain. This thread is directed at those who actually believed the hype.

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
I didn't. I held my nose and voted for McCain. This thread is directed at those who actually believed the hype.

OK! 😄

whoa whoa whoa.

okay, first of all. the president of the united states can do much greater things i.e. more public and dramatic in the foreign policy arena because he is the "commander-in-chief". this should sound familiar - a lot of what bush is remembered for is inappropraite foreign policy - like starting a war that was not only unecessary, but uneccessary because the government lied to to its people about the reason for starting it. lack of wmd's, anyone?

secondly, if the president wants something to happen in the domestic law of the united states, he can't just POOF it into being. that's why we have a house and senate. if he could just poof things better, we would have a dictator - and that's not good.

so for example we have a health bill passed, and obama wanted a different health benefits system for the us.

but that 'want' had to be written into bill form, and then discussed in the house and senate - where there are people who will be strongly opposed to what the bill says and people who will like what it says - but ultimately the bill doesn't pass until both of these categories are happy.

this is how a health bill that seems even more beneficial to insurance companies comes through the system.

really, one of the only things the president of the united states can change, is his behavior. and as a symbol of america, if he is diplomatic and doesn't believe in waving war around like a threat *ahem ahem bush?* then what happens is that other countries think better of america because our symbol is better.

like... when obama bowed to the japanese emperor. that, although it seems to be a small gesture, is quite large in its effect. he bowed to the emperor because he knew that, as a foreign dignitary being hosted by another foreign dignitary, he should respect their customs.

so what the world sees is a president who is willing to work together with, rather than tromple all over, other countries. the little things that get reported and talked about until overanalyzation deprives them of any sort of meaning - these little things the president does - they ARE major changes.

learn the bill to law system, study everything the president's responsible for - and what he's not responsible for - and you might reconsider your ultimate decision that obama's to blame for EVERYTHING.

I think he needs to start wearing a shirt with Master Billy Quizboy from the Venture Bros. on it with the quote "Don't kid yourself there, you're a bit of a pussy" on it.

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud

I will give Obama credit for one thing...he did throw billions of borrowed taxpayer dollars at the banking sector with which bank executives paid themselves huge bonuses and did nothing to stimulate the economy. Oh wait, that happened under Bush as well.

YouTube video

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
I didn't. I held my nose and voted for McCain. This thread is directed at those who actually believed the hype.

then shouldn't you be happy with Bush again?

Originally posted by inimalist
then shouldn't you be happy with Bush again?

That's a good point. In time, Bush will become more popular with people disenchanted with Obama.

nono, his comparison was to Obama being the continuation of Bush. Given he voted for McCain, shouldn't that mean he is happy rather than just looking for something to quibble about in a partisan nature?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That's a good point. In time, Bush will become more popular with people disenchanted with Obama.

Yup, that's the way things work with people. If things aren't going good, just blame the one in charge and work to get someone completely different who will no doubt be better. Then when things aren't going well under him, suddenly this new leader who was supposed to be so great is not good and the previous leader is looking better and better the further away we get from the time when he was the leader and everyone hated him.

Originally posted by inimalist
nono, his comparison was to Obama being the continuation of Bush. Given he voted for McCain, shouldn't that mean he is happy rather than just looking for something to quibble about in a partisan nature?

I understood what you were getting at. I'm just taking it down the road. Nostalgia is a strange beast.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I understood what you were getting at. I'm just taking it down the road. Nostalgia is a strange beast.

people forget the pain

lol, actually, I'm worried that what we will remember about bush will be all the war nonsense and the "bush-isms", whereas his real danger to democracy, the massive expansion of executive powers, will get forgotten and just become business as usual.

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
Are you still happy you did?

I didn't vote for him.

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
All I see he has done is try to create an expanded version of medicare and a bunch of "czars" answerable soley to him?

I most definitely don't like bigger government. I agree with you, there.

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
He has enormously expanded the national debt.

Debt when Obama took office: $10.6 trillion.

Debt now: $11.99 Trillion.

Total Obama debt created: $1.39

Total Bush debt created: $4.9 Trillion.

My sources:
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/03/17/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry4872310.shtml

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Obama has quite a bit to go to catch up to Bush. Bush is the worst spender(President) in US History.

I don't think debt should be created, no matter what. I think our government is MUCH too fat and much too big. We should be getting rid of programs, not creating more.

Having said that, Obama needs to bring back his spending in the next year or two, and even have a surplus. That's what I'd like to so. However, that's definitely not in Democrat politics. I don't expect much.

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
He has done nothing for the environment.

Yes he has. Quite a bit, actually.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/energy-and-environment/

Not to mention all of the talks he's undertaken with other nations about getting the rest of the world on the same page of clean energy. He just took a trip to China and that was a topic of discussion.

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
Where is his promised tax cut for the middle class?

Yes. Where is this tax cut? 😠

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
Are we out of Iraq or Afghanistan? Last I checked he was EXPANDING our presence in Afghanistan.

He wasn't planning on pulling out of Afghanistan in the near future, but he was Iraq. We have made progress on the Iraqi troop withdrawal.

Here's the facts:

On Tuesday, United States forces pulled out the remaining combat troops from Iraq's cities, marking an important benchmark in a withdrawal strategy that had been negotiated between the two countries. Tens of thousands of U.S. troops will remain. But commanders on the ground say that the pieces have been put in place to continue the drawdown through the course of the next year. All combat troops are due out by August 31, 2010, and the Status of Forces Agreement aims for a final withdrawal by December 2011.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/30/white-house-hails-iraq-tr_n_223226.html

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
What has he done about unemployment?

Spent an absurd amount of money, created hundreds of thousands of jobs, and still didn't keep the unemployment from going over 10%.

I could have sworn there was more involved than just spending, such as job creation legislation...but, other than money related legislation, nothing is coming to mind.

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
What has he done to stop the outsourcing of American jobs to other countries?

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
He has an overwhelming majority in both houses of congress, he has no excuse.

He has a slight majority of democrats.

On top of that, you have democrats that go against the grain, at times, such as blue dog democrats.

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
Welcome to George W Bush the sequal

Not really. Spending? Yes. Other than that, they aren't THAT simiar.

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
No, but we at least should see some of the "change" that was promised. All I see is more of the same.

I actually liked McCain best in terms of character. But he had two strikes against him. One: same party as Bush; and two: Palin.

Edit