To all of you who voted for Obama

Started by Dr. Leg Kick4 pages

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
Are you still happy you did?

All I see he has done is try to create an expanded version of medicare and a bunch of "czars" answerable soley to him?

He has enormously expanded the national debt.
He has done nothing for the environment.
Where is his promised tax cut for the middle class?
Are we out of Iraq or Afghanistan? Last I checked he was EXPANDING our presence in Afghanistan.
What has he done about unemployment?
What has he done to stop the outsourcing of American jobs to other countries?
He has an overwhelming majority in both houses of congress, he has no excuse.

Welcome to George W Bush the sequal

As long as redox reaction's take place, I'm happy. You douche.

Originally posted by Dr. Leg Kick
As long as redox reaction's take place, I'm happy. You douche.

Why am I a douche? Just because I don't like, or trust, the "anointed one"? Do you always resort to name calling concerning anyone who doesn't share your opinion?

Originally posted by inimalist
no, I mean nothing

I'm not talking partisan semantics, I'm asking if it is honestly your opinion that no action from the government, as in deliberate inaction, would have been the best solution for the recent economic problems.

I think that introducing 1 trillion dollars to the economy hasn't helped it any. If you want me to say that the government should have done NOTHING for anyone, I'm not going to. There are other solutions than bail-outs.

The value of our revenue has remained steady, by introducing 1 trillion dollars you have merely split the value more ways therefor destroying the dollar more permanently.

Apparently, some Democrats are starting to not like Obama's economic policies and some are even comparing him to Bush. Please note the liberal source for this as well.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/rep-defazio-fire-timmy-ge_n_363093.html

and

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/eliot-spitzer-obama-econo_n_362658.html

Originally posted by Bardock42
Look, dude, I am not a big fan of government either, definitely not excess spending. Like I elaborated, my point was not that I am happy with Obama spending that much, but that it won't stop the economy from recovering. Perhaps it slowed it down, but it did probably make the lives of a lot of people a bit better than they would have been otherwise.

And although I do think that free economics and little government control is in most cases preferable to the overall good, I can't help but lately feel sympathy for people in misery and also feel glad that to some extend the social network of my country insures me that even if I should be struck by misfortune I would not hit rock bottom.

That's debatable. You might be right, but there's really no way to tell.

What I do know is some of the stimulus money went to pay executive bonuses when not one penny should have.

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
That's debatable. You might be right, but there's really no way to tell.

What I do know is some of the stimulus money went to pay executive bonuses when not one penny should have.

I am not sure what you are referring to. We will see in the next few months/years whether it will recover (it will). If you mean whether some it did protect some people from extreme misery, then yeah, that is not certain, I just find it likely.

I do agree with that.

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
Apparently, some Democrats are starting to not like Obama's economic policies and some are even comparing him to Bush. Please note the liberal source for this as well.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/rep-defazio-fire-timmy-ge_n_363093.html

and

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/eliot-spitzer-obama-econo_n_362658.html

Well, the young turks have been talking about that a while back, more democrats seem to be disatisfied. Apparently for the first time his approval has fallen below 50% now, as well

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
Why am I a douche? Just because I don't like, or trust, the "anointed one"? Do you always resort to name calling concerning anyone who doesn't share your opinion?
I always resort to name calling. That's why I drive a Porsche.

Since you care so much, I didn't vote. Why would I when both branches of the political system are of the same tree.

Marvelous world we live in.

Originally posted by inimalist
no, I mean nothing

I'm not talking partisan semantics, I'm asking if it is honestly your opinion that no action from the government, as in deliberate inaction, would have been the best solution for the recent economic problems.

I know you aren't talking to me, but I have to say something:

The government is partially to blame for the mess, to begin with, because of the ****ing around with the fed rates. lol

Originally posted by One Free Man
I think that introducing 1 trillion dollars to the economy hasn't helped it any. If you want me to say that the government should have done NOTHING for anyone, I'm not going to. There are other solutions than bail-outs.

The value of our revenue has remained steady, by introducing 1 trillion dollars you have merely split the value more ways therefor destroying the dollar more permanently.

I don't really disagree with any of that 🙂

Originally posted by dadudemon
I know you aren't talking to me, but I have to say something:

The government is partially to blame for the mess, to begin with, because of the ****ing around with the fed rates. lol

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Originally posted by dadudemon

Total Obama debt created: $1.39

Total Bush debt created: $4.9 Trillion.

Obama has quite a bit to go to catch up to Bush. Bush is the worst spender(President) in US History.

Obama has been in office for 9 months and the national debt has risen $1.39 trillion. Bush in office for 8 years created 4.9 trillion and he was the worst spender?

If debt keeps increasing at that rate, Obama debt will be up to 11.12 trillion at the end of his second term... assuming he gets elected again... and he probably will... (and that is being kind and giving him $1.39 debt increase per year rather than per nine months, which is where the record stands now.)

Originally posted by dadudemon
I most certainly did not say that Obama wasn't spending a bunch of money. Just pointing out that Obama has quite a bit to go before he reaches Bush levels. And, if you read my post, you'd see that I do not like spending and, in fact, we should be reducing our spending.

By precentages, he has already trounced Bush. If the rate continues he will be at Bush's levels in 2011... 5 years quicker than Bush got to that level.

Originally posted by Mandrag Ganon
Obama has been in office for 9 months and the national debt has risen $1.39 trillion. Bush in office for 8 years created 4.9 trillion and he was the worst spender?

If debt keeps increasing at that rate, Obama debt will be up to 11.12 trillion at the end of his second term... assuming he gets elected again... and he probably will... (and that is being kind and giving him $1.39 debt increase per year rather than per nine months, which is where the record stands now.)

By precentages, he has already trounced Bush. If the rate continues he will be at Bush's levels in 2011...

You think that there will be a huge economic crash every nine months of Obama's presidency?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You think that there will be a huge economic crash every nine months of Obama's presidency?

Frankly? No, but I don't think the economy will be improving greatly anytime soon, and I also believe that Obama will continue to spend at a comprable rate. I also believe that he will be at Bush's level in 2011 at the earliest and 2012 at the latest. But, who knows. I could be wrong, I will be quite satisfied if I am. I'm not one of those Republicans who is salivating at the prospect of Obama's failure, If he can pull us out of this (without causing a great hit to our freedoms), more power to him. 🙂

Originally posted by inimalist
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Good stuff. I like Dan and Deb's music. Also, they make much better than that. Similar to listening to Power Pill: you'd think that Richard D. James wasn't as absurdly and ridiculously as talented as he is just by listening to some of his Power Pill stuff.)

Originally posted by Mandrag Ganon
Obama has been in office for 9 months and the national debt has risen $1.39 trillion. Bush in office for 8 years created 4.9 trillion and he was the worst spender?

If debt keeps increasing at that rate, Obama debt will be up to 11.12 trillion at the end of his second term... assuming he gets elected again... and he probably will... (and that is being kind and giving him $1.39 debt increase per year rather than per nine months, which is where the record stands now.)

By precentages, he has already trounced Bush. If the rate continues he will be at Bush's levels in 2011... 5 years quicker than Bush got to that level.

Great. Not to be a tad rude, but, do you have anything to add that I already haven't said? (Everything you just said is the same as what I said, with more numbers and more words.) I just wanted to point out that despite Obama's total spending (not record, if inflation is taken into account, which it should.), still is not the same as Bush's. He did say that his overall goal is to balance the budget while mentioning that he would have to spend money to dig out of this economic crisis before he could start focusing more on fiscal policy.

This does not change, however, my distaste for big government and mega-spending. I still disagree with it.

Yes, I would have preferred some of the businesses fail, some to consolidate, on other's to be liquidated/sold piece by piece to other organizations. Sure, "my" way would have taken longer to recover from, but in 5 years, "my" way would have created a stronger and more stable market. We'd also have "hard learned lessons" which would be more likely to stave off something similar to this. My way would have also included a tad more regulation from the government. My way would create a much more steady growth rate, not this up and down explosive B.S. we are seeing now. After 5-7 years, my way would result in better economic growth BECAUSE: stability breeds predictability and trust in that predictability. That's what the government is trying to artifically do now. It's not working even remotely as well as they wanted. Sure, we are seeing improvements...but how much of that is the market self-righting and how much of that is government intervention?

If you haven't noticed, I prefer regulation over intervention....by a lot.

Sometimes, I can sound every bit like a conservatard. Other times, a libtard.

But, by all means, everyone go to town on my idea of better regulation with little to no intervention. Maybe I'm just a stupid shortsighted idiot. I'm more than happy to learn.

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Originally posted by chomperx9
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I lol'd. 😄

Re: To all of you who voted for Obama

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
Are you still happy you did?

He has enormously expanded the national debt.

If I haven't eaten in 8 years and you cram a 13 inch turd down my throat, when I shit out a 14 inch turn a few hours later, how much of that turd was mine to begin with?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Good stuff. I like Dan and Deb's music. Also, they make much better than that. Similar to listening to Power Pill: you'd think that Richard D. James wasn't as absurdly and ridiculously as talented as he is just by listening to some of his Power Pill stuff.)

I actually don't know anyone by a personal name. Maybe a couple...

I heard from a guy that Androgyn Network was Radium and his girlfriend, but I don't know.

Originally posted by inimalist
I actually don't know anyone by a personal name. Maybe a couple...

I heard from a guy that Androgyn Network was Radium and his girlfriend, but I don't know.

Here name is Deborah. His name is Daniel.

Edit - Looked it up. http://www.discogs.com/artist/Androgyn+Network
Last name Técoult.

Won't matter in 2012, as it's pretty safe the country is going way to the Right.