Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
"When Superman and Superman 2 are in proximity to one another, crazy stuff happens - as it did for anyone who got too close to their "other." So as a combination of that fact and the amount of power the two were exerting against one another, their histories "swapped." Our Superman "grew up" in a 1950's style world and "Superman 2" grew up in our world. Ultimately, each one believed that the other's world was sick and corrupt, but discovered that they could not "fix" the other's world, and in fact made things worse.This all happened in flashes during the battle, and in the end were "fragments of reality" not the actual history of either universe - just memories shared by the two Supermen.
"Not to mention Alexander was completely wrecking the barriers that separated the Multiverse IIRC. It's been a while but I'm pretty certain that Infinite Crisis made it pretty clear to us.
Claiming they were destroying space-time is just idiotic. When Superman references space-time, he's referring to their experiences.
Bottom page bump.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
IIRC, there's an argument against Alexander's meddling with the Multiverse effecting the feat of the Supermen, but I can't remember the specifics. If Alex was in the process of screwing with the Multiverse when the fight happened, it certainly makes thing suspect.
There were also weird things going on like each blow the supermen were having a multitude of life experiences that weren't their own.
Celey why'd you break the previous page mane? I was trying to read that lol.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor shattering worlds is obviously hyperbole despite us seeing the planet below being destroyed and a world in the distance being devastated.But it's valid for Superman. Despite them barely breaking a few windows in Metropolis and shaking the ground a bit IIRC. 😂
Also, destroying space-time? WTF? Do we need to assign a feat police for Abhil to correct him every time he lies about what happened?
😂
Joe explained what he wrote pretty well. Each time they hit each other due to being counterparts, the boundaries of space-time shattered in that they experienced flashes of each others history and memories. Superman's power played a part in this, but so did the fact that they were from alternate Earths.
How is that scene even remotely as impressive to nearly destroying a distant world by hitting someone in the face knowing that context?
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
It would be embarrassing if someone posted the actual collateral damage caused by their blows.. Iirc, it was like some buildings and a few blocks.. Not entirely sure though.
Notice the world being destroyed while Wonder Woman is on it... should be 3 times.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/InfiniteCrisis0517.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/InfiniteCrisis0518.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/InfiniteCrisis0519.jpg
And Lois' undisturbed dead body tanking the world being destroyed multiple times:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/InfiniteCrisis0522.jpg
The real feat to me was always Superman standing up to a pissed off Earth 2 Superman. Which for the life of me, I never understood how he accomplished that. But meh, world destroying is cool too.
I thought it was obvious that when they "destroyed the world" that they were simply shattering the current memory they were experiencing, or taking them into a memory.
Although the world was recreating itself awfully fast in the blink of an eye...
Hell, in one of them a focused blast of HV destroys the world:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/05.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/06.jpg
Lol completely forgot about that. Yea that is pretty much the definition of a hyperbolic non-feat. The shattering of the world was in reference to them reliving each others life. Also what the breaking of -their personal- time and space was referring to. And they weren't accomplishing this due to power but because they were counterparts from different Universes. The writer himself already said all this long ago but we still have to explain this shit.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Lol... U kidding me? That earth was in a state of flux. A lot of context in your "shattering earth" and "destroying space-time".I hope you don't think that without Alexander's meddling and the state of flux that earth was in, that they would have replicated the same feat. Oh wait, I think ure crazy enuff to believe that.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor shattering worlds is obviously hyperbole despite us seeing the planet below being destroyed and a world in the distance being devastated.But it's valid for Superman. Despite them barely breaking a few windows in Metropolis and shaking the ground a bit IIRC. 😂
Also, destroying space-time? WTF? Do we need to assign a feat police for Abhil to correct him every time he lies about what happened?
That was a different fight rage.
"The struggle between us has shattered the boundaries of space and time".
Do you want to be known as carver 2.0 from now on?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
"When Superman and Superman 2 are in proximity to one another, crazy stuff happens - as it did for anyone who got too close to their "other." So as a combination of that fact and the amount of power the two were exerting against one another, their histories "swapped." Our Superman "grew up" in a 1950's style world and "Superman 2" grew up in our world. Ultimately, each one believed that the other's world was sick and corrupt, but discovered that they could not "fix" the other's world, and in fact made things worse.This all happened in flashes during the battle, and in the end were "fragments of reality" not the actual history of either universe - just memories shared by the two Supermen.
"Not to mention Alexander was completely wrecking the barriers that separated the Multiverse IIRC. It's been a while but I'm pretty certain that Infinite Crisis made it pretty clear to us.
Claiming they were destroying space-time is just idiotic. When Superman references space-time, he's referring to their experiences.
Proof of infinite crisis making it clear?
Also breaking earth by a single blow and doing it again is vastly superior to Thor needing several blows to start cracking of a planet and a moon. Don't start pretending that it was a oneshot.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Notice the world being destroyed while Wonder Woman is on it... should be 3 times.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/InfiniteCrisis0517.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/InfiniteCrisis0518.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/InfiniteCrisis0519.jpgAnd Lois' undisturbed dead body tanking the world being destroyed multiple times:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/InfiniteCrisis0522.jpgThe real feat to me was always Superman standing up to a pissed off Earth 2 Superman. Which for the life of me, I never understood how he accomplished that. But meh, world destroying is cool too.