Superman's Hardest Punch vs Thor's Hardest Mjolnir Slam

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
One more time so people can see just how disconnected Abhil's interpretation is from the writers:

"When Superman and Superman 2 are in proximity to one another, crazy stuff happens - as it did for anyone who got too close to their "other". So as a combination of that fact and the amount of power the two were exerting against one another, their histories "swapped." Our Superman "grew up" in a 1950's style world and "Superman 2" grew up in our world. Ultimately, each one believed that the other's world was sick and corrupt, but discovered that they could not "fix" the other's world, and in fact made things worse.

This all happened in flashes during the battle, and in the end were "fragments of reality" not the actual history of either universe - just memories shared by the two Supermen."

Never knew about that. That just broke one of Superman's greatest striking feats.

Myth busted!

Yeah, I don't really care what Abhil says, I just want the general forum goers to know what actually happened.

Let the rebuilding of the House of El commence.

😖hifty:

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It's all right there on the pages. Very clear to anybody who decides to actually read.

Alright, don't listen to me, carry on with your mad interpretation, I could care less.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
One more time so people can see just how disconnected Abhil's interpretation is from the writers:

"When Superman and Superman 2 are in proximity to one another, crazy stuff happens - as it did for anyone who got too close to their "other". So as a combination of that fact and the amount of power the two were exerting against one another, their histories "swapped." Our Superman "grew up" in a 1950's style world and "Superman 2" grew up in our world. Ultimately, each one believed that the other's world was sick and corrupt, but discovered that they could not "fix" the other's world, and in fact made things worse.

This all happened in flashes during the battle, and in the end were "fragments of reality" not the actual history of either universe - just memories shared by the two Supermen."

This is the fight between two counterparts from different universes too. Tell me where did all that shit happened

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/Supergirl_Respect/supvspow.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/Supergirl_Respect/supvspow2.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/Supergirl_Respect/supvspow3.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/Supergirl_Respect/supvspow4.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/Supergirl_Respect/supvspow5.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/Supergirl_Respect/supvspow6.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/Supergirl_Respect/supvspow7.jpg

An interview doesn't supersedes on panel stuff especially when its wrong.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No it isn't. Post the scan if it is.

Scans have already been posted, I'm not the assigned Abhil feat police.

Originally posted by abhilegend
As per forum rules, its invalid to use interviews to discard feats.

No one is discarding feats, everyone already explained to you what happened. I thought the writer's words supporting the obvious on panel evidence would help you understand.

But like I said, I don't care what you think, the feat has been "mythbusted". I'm content. 🙂

Originally posted by abhilegend
I should just report you and done with it.

Go ahead sweetheart, open that floodgate. We'll see who'll get banned first. 🙂

Originally posted by abhilegend
And? They literally broke the world apart. "Who can strike with such force", it doesn't gets any clear than that.

So you're sticking with the idea that with every punch they shattered and remade the actual, physical Earth? 😂

Alright, whatever you say.

Originally posted by abhilegend
From a different fight you mean?

I could care less with your lowballing and posting invalid interviews too. Post the link where the interview took place though.

What? That aftermath was a result of the Kal-L and Kal-El fight.

Originally posted by abhilegend
This is the fight between two counterparts from different universes too. Tell me where did all that shit happened

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/Supergirl_Respect/supvspow.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/Supergirl_Respect/supvspow2.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/Supergirl_Respect/supvspow3.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/Supergirl_Respect/supvspow4.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/Supergirl_Respect/supvspow5.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/Supergirl_Respect/supvspow6.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/Supergirl_Respect/supvspow7.jpg

An interview doesn't supersedes on panel stuff especially when its wrong.

Do you seriously think a fight between Powergirl/Supergirl disproves the very clear explanation as to why Superman/Kal-L where experiencing flashbacks during Infinite Crisis? Counterparts fight all the time, that doesn't mean the reason being introduced in a completely different comic with different circumstances become invalid.

No it really doesn't. Interviews are pretty much absolute garbage most of the time and should be taken on a case by case basis. Fortunately, there's nothing contradictory here.

Their punches alone weren't doing all that damage to reality.

Personally, I do think that if said fight took place during Alexander Luthor's meddling, it's difficult to ascribe how much damage they did on their own and how much was due to the Multiverse being crapped all over. It's still a good feat (great even if you subscribe that E-2 Superman was at PC levels, which I do not, but he was still very much an angry Kryptonian fighting against a Superman who was not as motivated as he).

They weren't even damaging reality (I.e the physical makeup of everything) but their own histories. They kept shattering their -personal- world and reliving each others lives with flashbacks.

Their own personal power had some impact, yes, but the mess with the Multiverse/counterparts etc. was a primary contributor for this effect.

But whatever, I'm done discussing this feat.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Scans have already been posted, I'm not the assigned Abhil feat police.

No it really doesn't. Interviews are pretty much absolute garbage most of the time and should be taken on a case by case basis. Fortunately, there's nothing contradictory here.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Their punches alone weren't doing all that damage to reality.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Personally, I do think that if said fight took place during Alexander Luthor's meddling, it's difficult to ascribe how much damage they did on their own and how much was due to the Multiverse being crapped all over. It's still a good feat (great even if you subscribe that E-2 Superman was at PC levels, which I do not, but he was still very much an angry Kryptonian fighting against a Superman who was not as motivated as he).

Originally posted by abhilegend
Kal-L was a PC Kryptonian whose feats are still intact as his whole history, it matters little what you think or don't. They were shattering earth as explained by their punches.

His general history may be intact but its abundantly clear his formidability wasn't the same as back then based on what he showed. So, yes, what I think matters quite a bit considering it's a very valid stance to take.

Sweetie? Okay I'm going to stop now before this turns into a game of who can get the biggest reaction out of who.

Agreed to disagree or whatever. My point has been made already, if I have time later I'll condense it down for the myth buster thread.

Could you please post or message me the Jurgen interview mentioned. I don't shy away from information just because it might reflect my favorite character unfavorably.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
His general history may be intact but its abundantly clear his formidability wasn't the same as back then based on what he showed. So, yes, what I think matters quite a bit considering it's a very valid stance to take.

Pretty much.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
His general history may be intact but its abundantly clear his formidability wasn't the same as back then based on what he showed. So, yes, what I think matters quite a bit considering it's a very valid stance to take.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Sweetie? Okay I'm going to stop now before this turns into a game of who can get the biggest reaction out of who.

Agreed to disagree or whatever. My point has been made already, if I have time later I'll condense it down for the myth buster thread.

Could you please post or message me the Jurgen interview mentioned. I don't shy away from information just because it might reflect my favorite character unfavorably.

Don't tell me you haven't heard of Jurgens' "Superman is millions of times stronger than thor" interview?

Guys, cut it out.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Sweetie? Okay I'm going to stop now before this turns into a game of who can get the biggest reaction out of who.

Agreed to disagree or whatever. My point has been made already, if I have time later I'll condense it down for the myth buster thread.

Could you please post or message me the Jurgen interview mentioned. I don't shy away from information just because it might reflect my favorite character unfavorably.

He's talking about the fan interview where he made a joke about Superman being millions of times stronger, what abhi fails to mention is that Jurgens also stated that Thor would win a fight.

BTW, Jurgens later posted and confirmed that the millions of times stronger comment was in fact a joke. Hell, I've had Jurgens quote in my sig for years.

Lockdown imminent.

all the superman threads get closed too early

This is why I should be the leader of the House of El.