SCW Sinestro Corps vs Annhilation Wave

Originally posted by Nihilist
Anyone know the actual death toll the Annihilation wave caused in the end..

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Recreating Oa?
Stopping a Big Bang?
Recreating planets all come to mind

One Yellow lantern teleports to these Infants and kills em

GL's and YL's don't teleport (unless it's between matter and antimatter universe). They travel in a straight line from point A to point B.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
By a pissed off, extremely feed Galactus is how. And that was near the end and he still didn't defeat all of Annihilus' forces and that was with Annihilus' forces being severely underplayed in different instances.

He wasn't extremely fed. Annihilation Heralds of Galactus #2 Galactus tells Silver Surfer that he's still weak from the imprisonment ordeal. This is a few months after the fact, and after a few meals.

More recently in Godhunter Galactus explains that he had to tap into his reserves just to stay alive, and they're still not replenished. By no means was Galactus "extremely fed." Unless you meant, "extremely freed," of which I am in agreement.

If you're starved for food for 5 weeks, and suddenly get a 5 course meal, are you extremely fed.

Originally posted by Omega Vision [QUOTE=12356935]Originally posted by shokosugi
Thanos' involvement in Annihilation is similar to Mongul's involvement in Sinsestro Corp

Disagree. Thanos' involvement in Annihilation was almost as integral as Annihilus himself. The whole A-wave was just a front so Annihilus could gather enough of the Power Cosmic to blow up the MU and the negative zone. To do that he needed Thanos. The A-wave was just a tool used by both parties to achieve the ultimate goal..though only Annihilus knew what the ultimate goal was.

As for Thanos' direct involvement...he was directly involved. He controlled and operated the Galactus gun on Annihilus' flagship. They used it to destroy one planet on panel and several off panel.

Mongul was kind of just along for the ride.

So, are we counting the Weaponers of Qward for the SC side or not?

^ Whay not? Subject to the thread creator's rules, the Weaponers of Qward, although coming from lofty origins, are basically the slaves of the Sinestro Corps. And considering them to be a factor would be like considering the Negative Zone slaves and grunts as factors.

If they gain their tech, SC would be very formidable on top of what they have. The Weaponers of Qward are no joke.

^ What tech are your rferring to that the Sinestro Corps have made use of? After all, they are unwilling slaves.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ What tech are your rferring to that the Sinestro Corps have made use of? After all, they are unwilling slaves.

No, what I am saying is that if the Sinestro wanted to he could use the Qwardians tech, since they are their slaves. He didn't use any specific tech, except for the rings they forged, but the Qwardians have so much more than that. Including weapons that can fold space inside out and decimate planets into nothing.

Which is what Sinestro should have done.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Nova says billions in Annihilatin #6. Oa was recreated by Hallax's power.
Kyle was tapping into the Ion power during OWAW and Imperiex did not intend on going Big Bang at that moment. Indeed, Warworld managed to absorb all those energies.
I've never seen a GL recreate a planet. Scans?

GL's and YL's don't teleport (unless it's between matter and antimatter universe). They travel in a straight line from point A to point B.

Well, Hal has teleported other beings. Such as this instance.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/JLSpectacular1-27.jpg

Not sure if that is Pre- or post crisis.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Nova says billions in Annihilatin #6. Oa was recreated by Hallax's power.
Kyle was tapping into the Ion power during OWAW and Imperiex did not intend on going Big Bang at that moment. Indeed, Warworld managed to absorb all those energies.
I've never seen a GL recreate a planet. Scans?

GL's and YL's don't teleport (unless it's between matter and antimatter universe). They travel in a straight line from point A to point B.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Well, Hal has teleported other beings. Such as this instance.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/JLSpectacular1-27.jpg

Not sure if that is Pre- or post crisis.

Yellow Lanterns were created by Geoff Johns and we'll use his feats to gauge their strength. Sinestro has the combat prowess to beat Hal or Kyle, but he does not have the ability to suddenly replicate all of their feats. For the last 5 years now, we've seen the Green Lanterns use -flight- to travel and not a single one has shown any kind of teleportation ability along the lines of Thanos' technology. Why do you think everybody were so zomg'd by the the indigo lanterns' ability to teleport?

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
It's pre-crisis but it doesn't matter.

Yellow Lanterns were created by Geoff Johns and we'll use his feats to gauge their strength. Sinestro has the combat prowess to beat Hal or Kyle, but he does not have the ability to suddenly replicate all of their feats. For the last 5 years now, we've seen the Green Lanterns use -flight- to travel and not a single one has shown any kind of teleportation ability along the lines of Thanos' technology. Why do you think everybody were so zomg'd by the the indigo lanterns' ability to teleport?

This is a good debate, one of the few with reasonable arguments from both sides.
Still I cant shake the thought of Cyborg Superman controlling ships, SMP just blitzing through thousands of them at the speed of light, Despotellis infecting another section of ships, Ranx the living city doing some major damage, while Parallax controls Annihilus and causes mass damage and confusion without anyone knowing it. Sinestro really doesnt need to get involved.

Originally posted by redhotrash
This is a good debate, one of the few with reasonable arguments from both sides.
Still I cant shake the thought of Cyborg Superman controlling ships, SMP just blitzing through thousands of them at the speed of light, Despotellis infecting another section of ships, Ranx the living city doing some major damage, while Parallax controls Annihilus and causes mass damage and confusion without anyone knowing it. Sinestro really doesnt need to get involved.

The sheer numbers alone would crush the combined armies/resources of the sc.

I was under the impression both sides basically just know that theres another fleet attacking them. They get no real intimate knowledge of whos can do what. From there it wouldnt really be hard to determine where the opposing team's leader is (in the biggest ship would make sense). Come to think of it, whats to stop Paralax from taking over Thanos' body?
The Henshaw argument is garbage. Thats essentially saying ANYONE would beat him, all they had to do is convince him to let them win. Kinda breaks the "No CIS" rule on the board.
Lastly, I really dont see that A-Wave has a real means of taking out SMP or Henshaw.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So in your scenario they aren't aware of who they are facing but the dc side is aware of the a-wave? You really think Thanos wouldn't put the proper plan in place to counter Parallax? All you'd need is to convince Henshaw the a-wave would do him in and he'd be useless anyways.

The sheer numbers alone would crush the combined armies/resources of the sc.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Are you suggesting Henshaw is afraid of death? 😆 😆
Henshaw joined the Sinestro Corps because the Anti Monitor promised him he'd kill him for his services, which is what he wanted more than anything.

No, he means Thanos can successfully kill Henshaw, giving him what he's always wanted. This is Thanos' bargain to Cyborg to remove him from the fight.

Its also CIS, a obscene theory (AM already promised him that), and a nonsensical way to take a character out a fight since, as I pointed out, anyone can pull that same stunt.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
No, he means Thanos can successfully kill Henshaw, giving him what he's always wanted. This is Thanos' bargain to Cyborg to remove him from the fight.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Agreed. Most ring users travel through space by flying, somehow that allows them to traverse universal distances within hours or minutes. Which does beg the question of exactly how fast a ring user is if they can cross the universe so quickly.

Originally posted by redhotrash
This is a good debate, one of the few with reasonable arguments from both sides.
Still I cant shake the thought of Cyborg Superman controlling ships, SMP just blitzing through thousands of them at the speed of light, Despotellis infecting another section of ships, Ranx the living city doing some major damage, while Parallax controls Annihilus and causes mass damage and confusion without anyone knowing it. Sinestro really doesnt need to get involved.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Ah I misunderstood.
But how would he be sure Thanos could kill him? He only served the AM because the AM had the power to do it. If anyone could kill the Cyborg don't you think Henshaw would have done it himself a long time ago?

Yeah, he believed AM could do it. But being Thanos', he'd likely bring up the Deliquent's profile or present some kind other method that would logicaly appeal to Cyborg. If Henshaw believes Thanos, Thanos would either kill him as he wants or back stab Henshaw by entrapping him in say a force block. Either way, this is assuming Thanos knows Henshaw's wishes for this tactic to work. I highly doubt it tho. Only way I see it is if, Henshaw starts babbling about his death wish in battle and Thanos catches it on his monitor.