Originally posted by SoulDevourer
KK can amp with chi or somethin right? (like ironfist & mandarin)so he give himself superhuman stats, and Cap is only peak human 😬
Stop reading Bios, Cap is Superhuman, his respect thread is 4 clicks away and in it you will find evidence and become enlightened.
That said, it's quite hard to place KK on a Marvel scale, he seems to be akin to Ironfist, but even Ironfist was in danger of loosing his fight with Cap unless he let go some chi ampage. Discounting pre-crisis KK feats, i definetley wouldn't put him (kk) at Temugin level. If he can amp..and he prolly can manip chi in some way, id say he takes Cap for a solid...if he isnt amping, then Cap could at least get a split. People are judging how well cap would do by how well Batman has done, Cap operates at a harder faster level than Bats when push comes to shove.
Originally posted by Juk3num yeah i know about his superstrenght feats, but their exeptions & its not like he allways use em 😐
Stop reading Bios, Cap is Superhuman, his respect thread is 4 clicks away and in it you will find evidence and become enlightened.
is like batman he got superstrenght feats too but hes only peak human
Originally posted by Omega Visionbut its still ridiculus 😬
I'll agree that Cap is the peak, peak human. That is if he does superhuman stuff it isn't that ridiculous
some of Caps strenght feats, no human ever ever coud do anything close 2 that (to start with they could never build enuf muscle for that, even with steroids, and even if they could they would still break there bones trying to do some o this shit)
Originally posted by SoulDevourerLike kicking a tree down as a teenager? batman
but its still ridiculus 😬some of Caps strenght feats, no human ever ever coud do anything close 2 that (to start with they could never build enuf muscle for that, even with steroids, and even if they could they would still break there bones trying to do some o this shit)
Originally posted by Juk3nCo-sign
Stop reading Bios, Cap is Superhuman, his respect thread is 4 clicks away and in it you will find evidence and become enlightened.That said, it's quite hard to place KK on a Marvel scale, he seems to be akin to Ironfist, but even Ironfist was in danger of loosing his fight with Cap unless he let go some chi ampage. Discounting pre-crisis KK feats, i definetley wouldn't put him (kk) at Temugin level. If he can amp..and he prolly can manip chi in some way, id say he takes Cap for a solid...if he isnt amping, then Cap could at least get a split. People are judging how well cap would do by how well Batman has done, Cap operates at a harder faster level than Bats when push comes to shove.
Originally posted by Juk3n
Stop reading Bios, Cap is Superhuman, his respect thread is 4 clicks away and in it you will find evidence and become enlightened.That said, it's quite hard to place KK on a Marvel scale, he seems to be akin to Ironfist, but even Ironfist was in danger of loosing his fight with Cap unless he let go some chi ampage. Discounting pre-crisis KK feats, i definetley wouldn't put him (kk) at Temugin level. If he can amp..and he prolly can manip chi in some way, id say he takes Cap for a solid...if he isnt amping, then Cap could at least get a split. People are judging how well cap would do by how well Batman has done, Cap operates at a harder faster level than Bats when push comes to shove.
Val doesn't amp like Iron Fist does. Nowhere close to it. Both Pre-Crisis and Zero Hour Val would stomp Cap in the dirt. He could probably take 3 or so Cap's at once. That's how good he is. 3boot is another story. Not a lot of showings, but he did crush an alien that was tearing some of the Legion apart at the same time.
Also note that pretty much all Val's have super senses. Zero Hour Val could hear Emerald Empress miles away. 3 Boot Val could detect Invisible Kid by hearing him as well.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/silicondream/Karate%20Kid/Untitled-Scanned-08.jpg
Here is the Alien feat I was talking about.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/silicondream/Karate%20Kid/kkvsmonsters2.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/silicondream/Karate%20Kid/kkvsmonsters3.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/silicondream/Karate%20Kid/kkvsmonsters1.jpg
Originally posted by SoulDevourer
so KK dont amp yet he has superstrenght
so u saying hes a mutant? 🤨
It's a combination of things, I think. First of all, he's an evolved human. His master, White Crane trained val from the very beginning to take on meta humans of all types, which is pretty much the reason the Legion chose him to be on the team and the reason why he can hang with the likes of Mon-El and Superboy. During the Silver age, Val said he had something like Super Karate, which he can channel energy of some type, but it's not exactly like Iron Fist.
Here is a better bio that's available:
http://www.studiosanning.shawbiz.ca/legion_of_super-heroes/membership/karate_kid/index.htm
Talks about Super Karate.
Val never knew his real parents but was raised as a foundling by the people of Tokyo. As an orphan-child, he was taken in by an oriental master of martial arts, who raised him like a son. He trained Val from infancy in the new martial art he devised - super-karate - and taught the child many other techniques of fighting and defence. Val proved to be the only pupil who could master the new art, turning into a veritable super-being able to smash solid steel with his bare hand. In this way, Karate Kid carries on his Sensei's work, and when the time comes, he will take it upon himself to train another in the art of super-karate (Adventure Comics No. 365 "Origins & Powers of the Legion of Super-Heroes", 367).
Karate Kid is skilled in every known form of combat in the galaxy - from Earth martial arts such as boxing, savate, and kendo (Adventure Comics No. 363, 365) to exotic disciplines from many other planets. His specialty is super-karate, a technique developed by his Master, which enables him to do virtually super-human things. Karate Kid has stated that if Superboy took up karate, the Boy of Steel might be able to punch through a foot-thick slab of manganium inertron, something he could not normally do (Adventure Comics No. 367). Applying his techniques and knowledge of stress points (346), Karate Kid has: cracked through the hull of the Khund flagship (347), stopped a runaway sport-speedster with one blow (351), knocked out a Jovian mastodon with one chop (358), cracked through the powerful, six-inch durlamite gates of the Metroplois Jail (360), damaged tanks with a two-handed chop (360, 367), kicked away an air car from the path of a falling boulder (361), split a rock in two and took out an opponent with each flying piece (361), fought a half-dozen assailants at one time (358, 361, 367), and stamped the ground with both feet, shaking a whole street and knocking a dozen soldiers off their feet (367). Once when he was trapped inside a giant hollow diamond, Karate Kid located its natural flaw and used his iron will to coax his body to make one final chop that shattered the gem (Adventure Comics No. 365). Karate Kid has also made it a point to become an expert with every weapon used in hand-to-hand combat - from fencing foils to Jovian trident spears, and even the deadly Krishnu gauntlets from Gaman Tol. The Legion normally excludes heroes who use weapons, but with him they are only a sideline (Adventure Comics No. 367). Limitations and Weaknesses: It takes Karate Kid intense concentration to split a 14-inch slab (7 sheets) of titanium manganite, and any distraction will result in failure (Adventure Comics No. 359). Major exertions and releases of his chi will tire him out, requiring him to rest or sleep to build up his body energy again (365, 366). Speculative Explanation of Power: Chi (or qi) is the spiritual energy that is a part of every living thing. Martial art practitioners focus their chi through special breathing techniques, which enables them to harden parts of their body to help them block blows without harm or to smash through heavy objects. The special method of chi focusing that Karate Kid was taught enables him to increase his strength, speed, endurance, and toughness to a much higher degree. This, combined with his training in every form of combat in the galaxy, transcends the term "skill" to give him a bona fide super-power.
