Originally posted by EvilTyrant
Cool thx, nothing like a "its common knowledge" and "duh" to explain the boost in strength, lol.
he was class 70/75 up until he died, and it had been stated that he would get stronger as he got older. since his resurrection, even the handbooks have been saying he's a fully fledged class 100.
Originally posted by ColossusGrundyComparing their strength does make sense because if his webbing can STOP class 70 character it surely can slow down class 100. Also in order to skewer him it'd take them about half a second if the work as a team. I seriously doubt he'll be able to avoid getting stabbed even if Pete doesnt use the webbing, if he does then its a 100% guarantee Piotr is gonna get stabbed. Also why would Spider stay on a building? Spider-man is a lot faster than Piotr, he can dodge him all day even without the webbing, as fast as Piotr is he's NOT fast enough to tag Parker once. His only chance would be if the fight lasted a very long time and Parker got tired but it wont last long concidering Colossus durability means nothing here. Adamantium claws can cut through him.
I can't see Spidey staying out of Piotr's reach unless they fight in downtown NYC and Spidey stays on the side of some kind of building the entire time. Wolverine gets KO'd a-la-WWH style.No way on earth Webbing will stop Piotr long enough to do the Claw-skewer like you guys keep saying. Stalemate at best, I still say Piotr takes this without much trouble.
BTW comparing Blob to Colossus in strength is pointless. Blob's power is that he CAN"T be moved, webbing would just help that along. Piotr is MUCH stronger (100+) and it's not the same ballgame.
Originally posted by The NuulWhy not? And what does his strength have to do with it? Its about his weight and last I checked he weights 500 lbs, do you realy think that Spider-man who can swing a tank with a webline will feel the difference?
No it cant, Colossis is prob twice as strong as the Blob or near that anyways.Thats just a Human, Pitor is much more than that, Parker is not BFRing Colossus.
Originally posted by redhotrashBlob knocked a pissed off savage Hulk on his @ss after taking a punch to the face from the Hulk with ease. He also b!tchslapped Wonderman and through a building with one shot. Simon was either kayoed or hiding until the end of the fight.
And still I wonder why you think Blob is class 70. When exactly did that happen?
Taking a punch from the Hulk says nothing about his strength. Thats HIS power. He absorbs blunt trauma without being moved. Thats always been his thing. The guy has connected with and failed to knockout the Beast before, so yeah hes NOT class 70. Take his average showings, not his high one (being able to knock out Wonderman, who by the way isnt the most consistantly written character ever). So really, you think 2 feats, one of which isnt even really a strength feat at all, puts him that high. Spider-Man has had a class 70ish feat once, that doesnt mean he is class 70. I hate to harp on this, but yeah, I would say Blob is MAYBE class 40, and even that would be pushing it.
Originally posted by redhotrashHe took the punch to the face, not the body. Then he knocked the Hulk on his @ss, not too may Class 40's can do that. Blob also has one-shot kayoed Warpath....just a few issues after he fought Juggernaut. Iecaman encased Blob in ice once and Blob broke out. Iceman has been able to hold Grey Hulk in ice before. On to another feat of Blob, he once caught a punch from Colossus and b!tchslapped him out of a window. As per handbook ranking Blob is atleast Class 75.
Taking a punch from the Hulk says nothing about his strength. Thats HIS power. He absorbs blunt trauma without being moved. Thats always been his thing. The guy has connected with and failed to knockout the Beast before, so yeah hes NOT class 70. Take his average showings, not his high one (being able to knock out Wonderman, who by the way isnt the most consistantly written character ever). So really, you think 2 feats, one of which isnt even really a strength feat at all, puts him that high. Spider-Man has had a class 70ish feat once, that doesnt mean he is class 70. I hate to harp on this, but yeah, I would say Blob is MAYBE class 40, and even that would be pushing it.
Originally posted by redhotrashHis bio as well as his showings (that easilly put him on the same strength level as Piotr)
And still I wonder why you think Blob is class 70. When exactly did that happen?
Originally posted by ColossusGrundy
Nothing short of Hulk strength is going to be able to penetrate Piotr's armor with Wolverine claws, stop kidding yourself.
and this statement is based on what... your own mind? wolverine who is at best a class 2 ton was abvle to scratch colossus and leave marks on him with his claws now a healthy human logic say that if a class 2 at best was able to leave marks then a class 15 can penetrate him without any trouble with the strongest metal on earth
colossus isnt touching spider-man during the entire fight unless you ignore spider-man feats and abilities because it seem that people here only like to state colossus feats but they acknoledge spider-man feats which are super human speed reflex and agility at very high levels
as i said so many times and got tired of it... spider-man kills colossus with wolverine
spider-man bfr colossus
spider-man webs colossus to the floor with a lot of web layers he will be able to do it, if 1 lay of web was able to hold blob then if spider-man keeps webing and webing and webing colossus he wont be able to break free out of all that webbing
Originally posted by valtiz
and this statement is based on what... your own mind? wolverine who is at best a class 2 ton was abvle to scratch colossus and leave marks on him with his claws now a healthy human logic say that if a class 2 at best was able to leave marks then a class 15 can penetrate him without any trouble with the strongest metal on earthcolossus isnt touching spider-man during the entire fight unless you ignore spider-man feats and abilities because it seem that people here only like to state colossus feats but they acknoledge spider-man feats which are super human speed reflex and agility at very high levels
as i said so many times and got tired of it... spider-man kills colossus with wolverine
spider-man bfr colossus
spider-man webs colossus to the floor with a lot of web layers he will be able to do it, if 1 lay of web was able to hold blob then if spider-man keeps webing and webing and webing colossus he wont be able to break free out of all that webbing
Originally posted by Omega Vision
That's not bfr at all. Do you even know what bfr is?
i never said its a bfr i just mentioned that one of the ways the team wins is via bfr if you want me to state for the thousand time how? then i will styate it again... spider-man webs colossus eyes while colossus cant see he webs colossus legs tackle him down to the ground and start to swing him faster and faster until he release the web and bfr him the **** out of the fight
Originally posted by valtiz
i never said its a bfr i just mentioned that one of the ways the team wins is via bfr if you want me to state for the thousand time how? then i will styate it again... spider-man webs colossus eyes while colossus cant see he webs colossus legs tackle him down to the ground and start to swing him faster and faster until he release the web and bfr him the **** out of the fight
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Colossus snaps steel cables (same tensile strength as Spidey's webs) with ease. Webs won't do shit.
you just dont get it do you? while steel is something solid the webs are flexible and its harder to break something that is flexible like try to break a wooden board it will be easy but then try to break a wet wooden board and notice the difference , the webs are flexible which means he has to tear them apart and as i said before its not just 1 lay of webs its spider-man continue to spray more and more and more webs on colossus and eventually it will get harder then steel and harder then anything else because if 1 lay of webs is able to stop blob , train, collapsed buildings, then a hell lot of web lays will definitely hold down colossus who is a poor class 100