Doc Samson vs Colossus

Started by zopzop9 pages

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Colossus lunged at Hulk and they both fell into the water. Hulk took the first swing.

Colossus attacked the Hulk while the Hulk was SITTING DOWN and had his back turned to Colossus. Hulk was also in a calm state. Colosuss even said he looked weak and disoriented. Hell Lockheed's fire hurt Hulk! Can we say lowshowing?

Originally posted by zopzop
Colossus attacked the Hulk while the Hulk was SITTING DOWN and had his back turned to Colossus. Hulk was also in a calm state. Colosuss even said he looked weak and disoriented. Hell Lockheed's fire hurt Hulk! Can we say lowshowing?
Colossus did attack him, but he didn't strike him with his fists or feet as you seem to be implying.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Zopzop you have the scan of She-Hulk one-shotting Samson? Pretty sure it's from the thunderclap scene from your sig. That was downright embarrasing.

I got the pic from google.

Want me post the one where Colossus screams in pain from a kick from Storm? Because that's just as embarrassing if not more so.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Colossus did attack him, but he didn't strike him with his fists or feet as you seem to be implying.

Point is Colossus attacked the Hulk from behind and couldn't finish him, despite being disoriented from Lockheed's fire (which makes NO sense but whatever).

Doc Samson put Hulk to sleep with one punch.

Both of them sucker attacked Hulk, Doc Samson made it count.

Originally posted by zopzop
I got the pic from google.

Want me post the one where Colossus screams in pain from a kick from Storm? Because that's just as embarrassing if not more so.

Point is Colossus attacked the Hulk from behind and couldn't finish him, despite being disoriented from Lockheed's fire (which makes NO sense but whatever).

Doc Samson put Hulk to sleep with one punch.

Both of them sucker attacked Hulk, Doc Samson made it count.

Yea, I want to see Colossus screaming in pain.

Originally posted by zopzop
I got the pic from google.

Want me post the one where Colossus screams in pain from a kick from Storm? Because that's just as embarrassing if not more so.

That's PIS and we all know it. Colossus has fallen from orbit in Breakworld and was fine, yet a 55,000ft fall and a kick from Storm hurt him? He's been tanking electricity and lightning since day one, yet a lightning bolt hurts him? That whole issue reeked of PIS. Let's not try and deliberately lowball.

I'll admit the Colossus/Hulk fight had a lot of outside factors, but the fact remains that a teenage Colossus, much much weaker than he is now tussled with Hulk and not only held his own for a bit, flash KO'd him/stunned/whatever, and when he got knocked away, wasn't really hurt at all. He was having a calm monologue with himself.

That's a great showing for his strength class at the time.

Colossus being hurt by Storm was SpideyVsFl, and is obviously not valid.

Originally posted by zopzop

Point is Colossus attacked the Hulk from behind and couldn't finish him, despite being disoriented from Lockheed's fire (which makes NO sense but whatever).

Doc Samson put Hulk to sleep with one punch.

Both of them sucker attacked Hulk, Doc Samson made it count.

I think you're lost. Doc had to sucker shot Hulk to get a win. Colossus actually did it during a fight when Hulk was fighting back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😱

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I think you're lost. Doc had to sucker shot Hulk to get a win. Colossus actually did it during a fight when Hulk was fighting back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😱

Not really.

Doc Samson has fought Savage Hulk in a straight up fight for HOURS. No team help, no nothing.

Doc Samson and Colossus have both sucker attacked Hulk. Only one of them KOed him for HOURS with one punch and didn't have a dragon or girlfriend help him.

@ KingD19
Don't you find it strange he has nothing nearly that impressive fight/feat wise now that he's supposedly older and more powerful?

yep. Doc can be beastly when he goes unhinged. He stalemated Hulk for a long time. But then when he calmed down a couple issues later, gray hulk smacked him around iirc.

Older Savage is stronger than Newer Savage...but sucker punches are bad to count anyway...Doc Samson did better against Hulk than Collosus did agaisnt Juggernuat...and all the most powerful fighters were disquilified from Universal Champions challenge...Doc's fighting skills weren't good enough because he didn't block or dodge when he needed too...the thing lasted longer than Collosus and maybe Sasquatch did too...and also Doc Samson had more fights with Hulk by alot

Originally posted by zopzop
Not really.

Doc Samson has fought Savage Hulk in a straight up fight for HOURS. No team help, no nothing.

Doc Samson have both sucker attacked Hulk. Only one of them KOed him for HOURS with one punch and didn't have a dragon or girlfriend help him.


So? It was a sucker punch. It's a lot easier to knock someone out with a punch they never saw coming.

Samson broke his hand with sucker shot too.

Originally posted by zopzop
Not really.

Doc Samson has fought Savage Hulk in a straight up fight for HOURS. No team help, no nothing.

Doc Samson and Colossus have both sucker attacked Hulk. Only one of them KOed him for HOURS with one punch and didn't have a dragon or girlfriend help him.

@ KingD19
Don't you find it strange he has nothing nearly that impressive fight/feat wise now that he's supposedly older and more powerful?

He's beaten down Ord, who was easily in his strength class.

He's recently beaten down War Machine.

He's taken on Rulk without transforming to Juggernaut.

He not only fought with for a while, but got a nod of recognition from WWH and didn't get beaten nearly as badly as some other people.

He has a lot of feats to his name, it's just that as he's on a team and writer's tend to not use him to his full potential, he doesn't get as much screen time.

And it's hard for me to take you serious as a debater when you're so obviously biased. Just sayin. 😬

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
So? It was a sucker punch. It's a lot easier to knock someone out with a punch they never saw coming.

Yeah it was a sucker punch. Exactly like Colossus ambushing the Hulk when the Hulk had his back turned and was trying to soothe the fire wounds Lockheed had caused earlier.

At least in Samson's case he didn't have a Dragon or girlfriend help him out.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Samson broke his hand with sucker shot too.

And the Hulk was out for hours. Not bad for a guy that's not in the Hulk's class strength wise.

Originally posted by zopzop
Yeah it was a sucker punch. Exactly like Colossus ambushing the Hulk when the Hulk had his back turned and was trying to soothe the fire wounds Lockheed had caused earlier.

At least in Samson's case he didn't have a Dragon or girlfriend help him out.

Except Colossus didn't sucker punch Hulk; he tackled him. He eventually knocked out Hulk going toe-to-toe, unlike Samson, who only managed to knock out Hulk unaided with such a ***** move as a sucker punch.

Originally posted by zopzop
And the Hulk was out for hours. Not bad for a guy that's not in the Hulk's class strength wise.

The amount of time knocked out doesn't mean much. Hulk's brain got rattled enough to stall his healing factor, which doesn't completely make sense, but whatever. It was still a sucker punch.

Originally posted by Villelater
Older Savage is stronger than Newer Savage...but sucker punches are bad to count anyway...Doc Samson did better against Hulk than Collosus did agaisnt Juggernuat...and all the most powerful fighters were disquilified from Universal Champions challenge...Doc's fighting skills weren't good enough because he didn't block or dodge when he needed too...the thing lasted longer than Collosus and maybe Sasquatch did too...and also Doc Samson had more fights with Hulk by alot

No...Current Hulk is stronger than hes ever been and that's including Savage Hulk.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Except Colossus didn't sucker punch Hulk; he tackled him. He eventually knocked out Hulk going toe-to-toe, unlike Samson, who only managed to knock out Hulk unaided with such a ***** move as a sucker punch.

Except Samson didn't have a dragon friend fry the sh|t out of the Hulk causing him to run away screaming. Or a girlfriend to jump in and save him from getting his ass handed to him by phasing him out of harm's way.

See the difference?

Even aside from the sucker punch, Samson has gone toe to toe with Savage Hulk for HOURS unassisted by super friends.

The amount of time knocked out doesn't mean much. Hulk's brain got rattled enough to stall his healing factor, which doesn't completely make sense, but whatever. It was still a sucker punch.

Yeah and Doc's sucker attack >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colossus'.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Except Colossus didn't sucker punch Hulk; he tackled him. He eventually knocked out Hulk going toe-to-toe, unlike Samson, who only managed to knock out Hulk unaided with such a ***** move as a sucker punch.

I've been trying to say this.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I've been trying to say this.

Except you're wrong.

Lockheed's flame attack messed Hulk up big time, so much so that Colossus even noticed it before he SUCKER ATTACKED him with Hulk in a seating position with his BACK TURNED TO HIM.

Originally posted by zopzop
Except you're wrong.

Lockheed's flame attack messed Hulk up big time, so much so that Colossus even noticed it before he SUCKER ATTACKED him with Hulk in a seating position with his BACK TURNED TO HIM.

I like how you cling to the fact Colossus said Hulk looked weak but neglect to mention Colossus ammending that comment to not being as weak as he thought.